Why does no one like Justin Bieber

Yeah, just the other day Instagram deleted a lot of fake accounts. Many of the more popular people on there lost quite a lot of 'followers'.
 
First he says Anne Frank should have been a belieber now he says THIS? WTF?
Tbh I actually thought it was the same(I Thought the crash was caused by paparazzo chasing) And isn't totally unreasonable to say.

Keep in mind a paparazzo was killed not long ago chasing him, they are very vicious in their pursuit.
 
Tbh I actually thought it was the same(I Thought the crash was caused by paparazzo chasing) And isn't totally unreasonable to say.

Keep in mind a paparazzo was killed not long ago chasing him, they are very vicious in their pursuit.
Whatever, but linking himself to Princess Diana like that is completely over the top.
 
Tbh I actually thought it was the same(I Thought the crash was caused by paparazzo chasing) And isn't totally unreasonable to say.

Keep in mind a paparazzo was killed not long ago chasing him, they are very vicious in their pursuit.
Reading the article, he brake-checked the paparazzi. He caused the crash. That is a dangerous and stupid move.

If it can be compared to anything in Diana's case, it can be compared to the fact that the man driving Diana's car was under the influence.


All that said, I do believe his tweet was intended to be about trashing paparazzi acting on the roadways the same way they do on foot and not comparing himself to Princess Diana.
 
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There should be laws against what I just experienced.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there already laws against brake-checking someone?
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We should have learned from the death of Princess Diana...
...and I do see that as linking himself to her.
 
...and I do see that as linking himself to her.
I don't believe that was his intent when taking the entire tweet, and its goal, into consideration. He was speaking out against paparazzi and the need for laws preventing them from what they do and used a hyperbolic, but famously known, anecdote as an example of their history.

But the complaint was brought about by an event involving him, caused by his immature reaction to their presence, and his statement was less than 140 characters, which lead to a poorly worded and poorly thought out statement that also sounds as if he thinks this was the same as Diana.

Intent and appearance are not always the same. I may be giving him far too much benefit of the doubt, given his history, but I try to try to find the best in people, even brake- checking douchebags.
 
Justin Bieber (or a fake) just followed me on twitter. First time in 8 month I have used the "Block" button.
 
I don't believe that was his intent when taking the entire tweet, and its goal, into consideration. He was speaking out against paparazzi and the need for laws preventing them from what they do and used a hyperbolic, but famously known, anecdote as an example of their history.

But the complaint was brought about by an event involving him, caused by his immature reaction to their presence, and his statement was less than 140 characters, which lead to a poorly worded and poorly thought out statement that also sounds as if he thinks this was the same as Diana.

Intent and appearance are not always the same. I may be giving him far too much benefit of the doubt, given his history, but I try to try to find the best in people, even brake- checking douchebags.
Oh, I agree the rant was about the paparazzi, I just think he didn't need to bring up Princess Diana. Especially when he himself was the cause of the accident.

And yes, I suspect you may be giving him a bit too much of the benefit of the doubt. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, though.
 
Oh, I agree the rant was about the paparazzi, I just think he didn't need to bring up Princess Diana. Especially when he himself was the cause of the accident.
I doubt he sees it as his fault. Youth and narcissism work that way.
 
10 years ago he was a nobody. Get's discovered on Youtube. 20 years old and raking in an 8 figure income. All the tail he can handle. What's not to like?
 
10 years ago he was a nobody. Get's discovered on Youtube. 20 years old and raking in an 8 figure income. All the tail he can handle. What's not to like?
His horrible taste in cars... leapoard print Audio R8 anyone? No? What about a chrome Fisker Karma? No again?
 
Yeah the choice of finishes he picks for his cars are pretty terrible and he always seems to stick terrible aftermarket rims of them, frankly no supercars should have anything other than stock wheels fitted. The Karma made him look like such a prat!

Have to admit though, so jealous of his body... seriously what girl wouldn't be all over you!?

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Have to admit though, so jealous of his body... seriously what girl wouldn't be all over you!?
If he obtained his body through some kind of self-discipline, personal effort at growth, or genetics I would see it as something to be jealous about. But as it is a result of a studio-paid trainer whose job it is to force him into this, at the risk of losing his fan base if he doesn't, it just seems to be as sculpted and prearranged as his hair and music.
 
10 years ago he was a nobody. Get's discovered on Youtube. 20 years old and raking in an 8 figure income. All the tail he can handle. What's not to like?
I think it's because he is quite a cynical figure in the music industry.

Let's consider Katy Perry for a moment. She has a similar origin story as it were - the daughter of two preachers, who spent all her time singing in the local church choir before the Big Hand of Fate plucked her out of obscurity and propelled her onto the world stage. But did you ever wonder how a girl with such a conservative background made her big break with a song about casual lesbianism?

The answer is that behind it all, there are record company executives manipulating the entire thing. All of her songs are written for her. All of her outfits are chosen for her. All of her "personality" is scripted for her. She may have since achieved some degree of creative control, but my perception of her was firmly planted by two episodes from early in her career: the first was an interview with David Letterman where it became evident that she is dumb; there's no other word for it, as Letterman was visibly struggling to get anything out of her. The second was a photo from some music awards show where she showed up looking like Snow White trying to dress herself after dropping acid and carrying a "quirky" (ugh - I hate that word) handbag shaped like a cupcake. I know that's a weird detail to latch onto, but in that moment I knew that everything she was wearing had been chosen for her by an executive.

What does this have to do with Bieber? Well, I think he is the male equivalent. I think that somewhere, record company executives have tried to (and succeeded in) take the idea of success and break it down into a mathematical equation, one that will guarantee sales every time. Bieber's talent - like Perry's - is a secondary consideration at best; so long as they fit the profile, any patsy will do. Sure, he was "discovered" on YouTube, but you know that the executives (or, more likely, their minions) were trawling it, looking for someone to "discover".

Worse, at least in Bieber's case, is that it feels dishonest. His music is aimed at pre-teens and teens alike, a demographic that can be very suggestible. He's not particularly creative or innovative to begin with; his songs are generic, pre-packaged radio-friendly three-minute sound bytes that are the very definition of "pop". But they're all written to a formula and they're all aimed at the demographic. Maybe he was an innocent himself when he started, but if his success was built upon that lie, you can't help but think that by now at least, he's in on it.
 
I think that somewhere, record company executives have tried to (and succeeded in) take the idea of success and break it down into a mathematical equation, one that will guarantee sales every time. Bieber's talent - like Perry's - is a secondary consideration at best; so long as they fit the profile, any patsy will do.
This reminds me of a story/rumor I heard a long time ago. Allegedly a Philadelphia-area record producer had made a bet that he could take any reasonably good-looking guy off the streets and make a singer-heartthrob out of him regardless of talent or lack thereof. He won the bet by "discovering" and promoting Fabian.
 
Just curious, what colour is your Aventador, F430, 458 or 997?:lol:

I'm sure this style of argument has a name but can't remember it (possibly a Latin name. Famine would know, but I won't tag him for a Bieber discussion). It's a completely invalid argument, I remember that much. I seriously hope you're just screwing around.



I don't like Bieber because he acts like he's entitled to do anything he wants. Can't wait for somebody who doesn't recognise him to break his jaw for hitting on their girlfriend.

Edit: not actively wishing him harm (AUP and all that), just saying I'll find it hilarious. :sly:
 
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I'm sure this style of argument has a name but can't remember it (possibly a Latin name. Famine would know, but I won't tag him for a Bieber discussion). It's a completely invalid argument, I remember that much. I seriously hope you're just screwing around.

I don't like Bieber because he acts like he's entitled to do anything he wants. Can't wait for somebody who doesn't recognise him to break his jaw for hitting on their girlfriend.
You're calling me out for an invalid argument in a thread about why no one likes Justin Bieber? Okay, let that sink in for a bit....a thread about Justin Bieber and why no one likes him........Justin Bieber.

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Note: I believe the term is "strawman"....
 
You're calling me out for an invalid argument in a thread about why no one likes Justin Bieber? Okay, let that sink in for a bit....a thread about Justin Bieber and why no one likes him........Justin Bieber.

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Note: I believe the term is "strawman"....

No, a strawman is assigning positions to your opponent that they don't hold because they're easier to beat.

Your argument was akin to saying I can't criticise David Cameron because I'm not a politician, or someone who murders their kids because I'm not a parent.
 
No, a strawman is assigning positions to your opponent that they don't hold because they're easier to beat.

Your argument was akin to saying I can't criticise David Cameron because I'm not a politician, or someone who murders their kids because I'm not a parent.
I guess you didn't let the part about it being a Justin Bieber thread sink in yet :lol:
 
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