Why does no one like Justin Bieber

This reminds me of a story/rumor I heard a long time ago. Allegedly a Philadelphia-area record producer had made a bet that he could take any reasonably good-looking guy off the streets and make a singer-heartthrob out of him regardless of talent or lack thereof. He won the bet by "discovering" and promoting Fabian.
That's the plot of Pygmalion, and later My Fair Lady, albeit with a different setting.
 
I guess you didn't let the part about it being a Justin Bieber thread sink in yet :lol:

Unless you're saying you weren't being serious (still not sure :P), I got it, I just don't see how it being a silly topic means it's fine to use logically invalid arguments to put down somebody who had a valid complaint about Bieber.
 
First he says Anne Frank should have been a belieber now he says THIS? WTF?
Bieber comes from a world where his egocentrism is rewarded. Everyone piles attention on him, so to his mind, his comments about Anne Frank are a compliment - he sees qualities in her that he sees in his followers, but rather than show respect for something like Frank's legacy, he made it all about himself. It's the same with the Diana comments; he's the one who created the dangerous situation, but to his mind, the paparazzo is responsible because he started it.

It's just egocentrism taken to an extreme, the kind frequently found in teenage celebrities who are coming of age, and are trying to hold onto everything that gives them a sense of identity and acceptance when they are unable to resist the inevitability of biology as they physically mature. The problem Bieber faces is that his fans grow out of his music, and as he gets older, he is less able to connect with the people entering that demographic. So he takes any attention that he can get as a substitute for the attention that he wants or is used to.
 
Bieber comes from a world where his egocentrism is rewarded. Everyone piles attention on him, so to his mind, his comments about Anne Frank are a compliment - he sees qualities in her that he sees in his followers, but rather than show respect for something like Frank's legacy, he made it all about himself. It's the same with the Diana comments; he's the one who created the dangerous situation, but to his mind, the paparazzo is responsible because he started it.

It's just egocentrism taken to an extreme, the kind frequently found in teenage celebrities who are coming of age, and are trying to hold onto everything that gives them a sense of identity and acceptance when they are unable to resist the inevitability of biology as they physically mature. The problem Bieber faces is that his fans grow out of his music, and as he gets older, he is less able to connect with the people entering that demographic. So he takes any attention that he can get as a substitute for the attention that he wants or is used to.
You just told te main reason Bieber lost many fans.
 
You just told te main reason Bieber lost many fans.
I think the loss of fans stems more from the way they come from a very narrow demographic to start with, and so grow out of his music pretty quickly. Certainly more than his erratic behaviour, which is more the product of someone who is still maturing while having fame and fortune thrown at them. A lot of young people get carried away when that happens - look at Jenson Button who went slightly mad when he joined Williams in 2000. He went on spending sprees and through a bevy of girlfriends and generally got carried away with the lifestyle of a Formula 1 driver. It wasn't until about 2003 that he started to really settle down, and it showed in his results in 2004 when he was the best-performing non-Ferrari driver. Now he's a World Champion, the only driver to have beaten Lewis Hamilton as his team-mate and is one of the nicest guys in the sport. Australian tennis player Bernard Tomic also did it, going through patterns of disruptive behaviour; it's only really been this year that he has put his head down and worked hard (possibly because he has been upstaged as the Next Big Thing by Nick Kyrgios, who has handled it do much better).

That said, I think Bieber is in much deeper than Button or Tomic, and I don't think he will pull himself back out. He's more likely to fade into obscurity first.
 
Thankfully now its 2015. Imagine if you talk while back on 2010-2012. (Hint: Its like ignoring Frozen on 2013-now)
What is this "frozen" of which you speak. Oh, the movie? Yeah, saw it; was pretty decent. I don't discuss it much with anybody.

:D
 
I find that tends to work for me as well. Hard to ignore all the naked babes tanning by the pool though:sly:

From this, I assume you can see his pool from your place?

And being a bit drunk, and in a Bieber thread, we might as well make a song of it
and parody our 2 favorite Canadians (No, not you Toko)

Ok, I'll get the ball rolling.


Why Does No One Like Justin Bieber, the Musical.

Scene 1: "Living next door to Johnny"

Good day Mr Johnny P, how you goin' bloke?
Hey, I'm your brand-new neighbour ... hey, mate you got a smoke?
I think I'm gonna like it here
Living next door to Johnny

Fifteen eggs, nine bodyguards, two dozen mighty ducks
Naked babes, underage, drinking cherry pop
Tanning, swimming, pissing
In the pool next door to Johnny.
 
Back when he was the "sweet boy", everyone hated him for "being gay" (not my words). And I always said he was getting more (...) than most of the people who made fun of him. Nowadays, that's more true than ever. At least now there's a legitimate reason for people to dislike him.
 
Whose? Source?

I hadn't realised he was gay, I hated him because I found his voice, music and attitude irritating.
For his first two years your first two statement is probably what majority thought about.

Today, the third one applies, and combine with more rising singers like Ed Sheeran his popularity has already hit rock bottom, only to be saved very briefly by Nicky Minaj.

A lot of the people who hated him back when he was younger. YouTube comments would be a good place to start.
You judge peoples attitude by Youtube Comments? While Justin is indeed hated from start, Youtube Comments is the worst place from start either. You know that people like PewDiePie got a lot of hate too despite only doing his job. If he ended up like Justin, ill cringe hard.
 
You judge peoples attitude by Youtube Comments? While Justin is indeed hated from start, Youtube Comments is the worst place from start either. You know that people like PewDiePie got a lot of hate too despite only doing his job. If he ended up like Justin, ill cringe hard.

I don't know you, but I don't go around Bieber's YouTube videos making fun of him and insulting him if I don't like him. Moreover, I don't go around YouTube insulting him in videos that are not related to him, mostly music videos of "real bands" (as the users describe them).

I don't like PewDiePie at all, likewise, I don't bash him all day on YouTube. I just don't see his videos.
 
I don't go around Bieber's YouTube videos making fun of him and insulting him if I don't like him.

So now YouTube comments aren't everyone? It seems that at least you accept your original mistake, good on ya.

The day that YouTube commenters represent humanity in its totality I, for one, shall hand in my resignation and live as a fish, or something.
 
So now YouTube comments aren't everyone? It seems that at least you accept your original mistake, good on ya.

Do you really expect everyone to mean it when they say "everyone"? Because that is really annoying.

I asume you never use that word in your life, as it is impossible to speak on behalf of everyone.
 
Do you really expect everyone to mean it when they say "everyone"? Because that is really annoying.

I asume you never use that word in your life, as it is impossible to speak on behalf of everyone.

Unless I'm mistaken it was you who claimed that everyone thought Bieber was gay? I asked you for the source, now you reply that everyone doesn't say everyone because they (everyone) don't-or-can't mean everyone? You should try to avoid statements that aren't true, especially statements that claim something for "everyone" if everyone shouldn't think everyone is everyone (presuming that everyone might or might not).

Don't listen to Beiber, kids, this is what can happen.
 
Unless I'm mistaken it was you who claimed that everyone thought Bieber was gay? I asked you for the source, now you reply that everyone doesn't say everyone because they (everyone) don't-or-can't mean everyone? You should try to avoid statements that aren't true, especially statements that claim something for "everyone" if everyone shouldn't think everyone is everyone (presuming that everyone might or might not).

You know very well that that "everyone" can be used as an expression meaning "majority", or "a lot" as well. If you don't know this, you are not from this planet. And because I find it highly unlikely you don't know this, then you are just trolling.

I'm honestly surprised no one complained about the thread's title, considering there are people who do like Justin Bieber. Perhaps they are blind, like me?

Don't listen to Beiber, kids, this is what can happen.

Figured I was talking to this kind of person.
 
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I'm honestly surprised no one complained about the thread's title, considering there are people who do like Justin Bieber. Perhaps they are blind, like me?
Like a lot of thread titles, this one presumes the outcome before the discussion even begins. It sucks but that's the internet for ya. Most of us just ignore the obvious set up and proceed accordingly. I'm not a fan of Bieber's music, but I am a fan of his success. Dude went from YouTube to mega cash in just a couple of years. Hard to argue with that much success with so little real talent.
 
You just hit the nail right on the head, with the last half of your last sentence.
@Johnnypenso
Just like the "reality shows", if people stop buying or watching stuff, made by people with no talent, they will go away.
Ratings = money.
 


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The one thing that would probably get the Beibs to change his behavior.... the likelihood of this happening:

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