why doesnt polyphony get a license for nissan

It's a real shame EA had to be scumbags and nab Porsche's exclusivity rights. Obviously that's not that only scumbag thing they've done; it's a crime that their sports games alone go through minimal "improvements" and are sold for full price every year.

As for Porsche, they seem to not care simply because there's a giant profit thrown at them just for digital rights. Who cares right? But like someone else mentioned, they're constantly attached the the negative image that is EA Games, Need for Speed, and recycled arcade videogames. Not only that, kids grow up playing Gran Turismo (and now Forza) with no Porsche models present. Many other companies understand the value of brand loyalty starting at a young age, and Gran Turismo and Forza are perfect potential partners to build this loyalty and familiarity. Any serious gamers who don't bother with EA's casual arcade racers are missing the presence of Porsche entirely. I don't see why that doesn't worry Porsche.

It's not like they're desperate for cash from the exclusive deal. Having their brand present in more games, especially those built on quality and brand partnerships like GT and FM could have an impact on their brand in say, 10-20 years and further into the future. Furthermore, who's to say car brands in videogames won't increasingly have a bigger impact in the future? We've just now learned about Vision Gran Turismo and all the brands that have jumped into that concept. You can take that even further by working with brands on different levels. Porsche is really missing out in that aspect by sticking with one brand that the consumer base doesn't even take seriously. I think most people would agree that EA's exclusivity is a massive waste of the Porsche brand in the digital universe. Everyone loses except EA, probably the most hated, least respected, and most joked about brand in the videogame industry.

But in the end we can blame EA all we want. Porsche agree to the deal so they're the real enemy. They certainly don't see the value in promoting and showing their brand in videogames and I really hope it hurts them in some way. I'm not saying they're going to fold or anything big that actually hurts them, but I hope they regret their decisions once they see videogame and manufacturer partnerships increasing in the future, something like the Vision GT program but to a different level. And then they take a step back and see that Mercedes, BMW, Ferrari, etc. are working with serious developers and games like Gran Turismo and Forza while integrating current and future development ideas for the benefit of the brands while Porsche has their strong association with a brand like EA Games producing games with their cars illegally street racing and outrunning cops.
 
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And anyone thinking that Porsche is going to be devalued by video games needs to get a grip on reality. Porsche owners i know have never heard of GT, Forza or any other game. They are to busy actually driving and racing Porches.
That's how it is in the USA with Porsches?

What I see here is just random "boring" people with a decent income (doesn't mean they're rich, richness is relative anyway), who drive it for their ego and imagined image ;). Spend 90% of their free time for work and definitely never go and race with it. Porsche let people think they're above average, although everybody knows they don't cost that much. Unless you mean the "Weeee I just drove 140 instead of 120 on the motorway, I'm so badass" guys... no wait... they actually drive old rusty BMW, Mercedes or wrecked VWs, Audis if they really have no money or try not to be seen as those groups of by many generally not so liked imigrants from a certain origin... :scared: (I'm not racist, I'm just stating the pure truth you're experiencing all day)
Seriously, porsche is for middle class/singles (no joke). Nobody here really cares if a Porsche drives by, unless it's a carrera gt or so, but definitely not when it's a 911.
 
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You must know so lame owners. I know CGT owners who play forza day in and day out most Sports/Exotic car owners at some point in life have played a racing game. You need to find a better car scene ASAP.

The car scene in Houston is huge and we generally spend most of the time with real cars, which is probably why its huge down here. Those guys are either working their business or on their cars. If they aren't doing runs at the Texas Mile, Royal Purple Raceway, Houston MotorSport Ranch or racing in "Mexico" then they are in the garage getting ready for the next event. The scene here is just fine being lived out and not on a game.

That's how it is in the USA with Porsches?

What I see here is just random "boring" people with a decent income (doesn't mean they're rich, richness is relative anyway), who drive it for their ego and imagined image ;). Spend 90% of their free time for work and definitely never go and race with it. Porsche let people think they're above average, although everybody knows they don't cost that much. Unless you mean the "Weeee I just drove 140 instead of 120 on the motorway, I'm so badass" guys... no wait... they actually drive old rusty BMW, Mercedes or wrecked VWs, Audis if they really have no money or try not to be seen as those group of by many generally not so liked imigrants from a certain origin... :scared: (I'm not racist, I'm just stating the pure truth you're experiencing all day)
Seriously, porsche is for middle class/singles (no joke). Nobody here really cares if a Porsche drives by, unless it's a carrera gt or so, but definitely not when it's a 911.

Trust me, there is plenty of that here also I can't throw a rock here without hitting a vette and it bouncing off two porsches.

Back to topic, video games will not be the downfall of Porsche. My brothers are car guys have played GT and all the other games I've bought over the years. Porsche not being in one but being in the other has came up once in nearly 20 years. They look good and prove themselves on track is what they look at.
 
This is a terrible idea. It would make no business sense for anyone involved. It would just be a blatantly obvious "take that" towards EA, only it wouldn't work because Porsche has more prestige, and thus more value, than Nissan. The only people it would really hurt are the players, because they'd have one more car brand they can only get in one type of game, Nissan, because they'd lose all that delicious advertising, and both of those plus everyone else, by contributing to a "yeah, well, I have __________ and you don't, *insert childish singing here*" culture of exclusive license wars.

Someday I'd like to see a street racing game with realistic physics, maybe even street racing in GT (as I've said many times, it wouldn't even have to be officially sanctioned), but for now it looks like we're stuck choosing between "realistic physics & tuning" OR "street racing and police chases", and as long as those two types of game remain strictly seperated, I think we should push to get as many types and brands of car as possible into both types of games.
 
There's also the problem that if PD/Sony did this, they'd essentially be saying "look, we're just like EA!"

And everybody hates EA.

I'd be going out of my way to do exactly the opposite of EA in every situation.
 
Probably because PD puts the money into the game and not the licensing, EA does the opposite and releases terrible games every year.
 
Because they don't want to force content out of other games. PD isn't like EA, just doing everything for profit, and progressively making games more monetized and more bland at the same time.

T10 and PD obviously at least ATTEMPT to use consumer feedback. EA takes a basic want (like a re-make of a classic) and then hardly does anything with it (uses the name and then makes a game that slightly resembles the title, and then calls it a remake). They did that with Hot Pursuit and Most Wanted, my guess is next they'll be doing that with Underground, and it won't be any good either.

EA's Porsche license is purely for cash, requiring other companies to pay ridiculous amounts of cash to use the brand. PD could do the same, but they don't want to look like a (pardon my french) douche of a company. In fact, I believe T10 once had an exclusive hold on Ferrari... But they released it and stated (summarized) that they don't want to force a product away from a user. It isn't T10's resource, they shouldn't have exclusivities.
 
Maybe I'm missing something, but don't Porsches seem to be in almost be very racing game besides gt?

Edit: never mind I was only thinking about different ea games and for a.
 
Because they don't want to force content out of other games. PD isn't like EA, just doing everything for profit, and progressively making games more monetized and more bland at the same time.

EA's Porsche license is purely for cash, requiring other companies to pay ridiculous amounts of cash to use the brand. PD could do the same, but they don't want to look like a (pardon my french) douche of a company.

Hate to disagree but PD would love to force content out of other games and drive them out of the market. Less choice means more market share, means more profit, the reason they are in business. If they could get exclusive licenses for all manufacturers of any significance you bet your a$$ that's exactly what they'd be doing. The fact that it's economically not feasible, not to mention not necessarily in the best interest of the car manufacturer's to put all their eggs in one basket, is the only thing stopping them.
 
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Forza got Porsches!!!! This is no lie, just look at here:
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-US/fm...1_Petersen-White_Lightning_911_GT3-RSR_(996)_

Maybe the Porsche-EA contract is already gone?? I hear and read so much about it, but I never saw a document or anything official talking about it, neither I heard about any date for its ending. Does anyone got some more precise info about it?

It's a real shame EA had to be scumbags and nab Porsche's exclusivity rights. Obviously that's not that only scumbag thing they've done; it's a crime that their sports games alone go through minimal "improvements" and are sold for full price every year.

As for Porsche, they seem to not care simply because there's a giant profit thrown at them just for digital rights. Who cares right? But like someone else mentioned, they're constantly attached the the negative image that is EA Games, Need for Speed, and recycled arcade videogames. Not only that, kids grow up playing Gran Turismo (and now Forza) with no Porsche models present. Many other companies understand the value of brand loyalty starting at a young age, and Gran Turismo and Forza are perfect potential partners to build this loyalty and familiarity. Any serious gamers who don't bother with EA's casual arcade racers are missing the presence of Porsche entirely. I don't see why that doesn't worry Porsche.

It's not like they're desperate for cash from the exclusive deal. Having their brand present in more games, especially those built on quality and brand partnerships like GT and FM could have an impact on their brand in say, 10-20 years and further into the future. Furthermore, who's to say car brands in videogames won't increasingly have a bigger impact in the future? We've just now learned about Vision Gran Turismo and all the brands that have jumped into that concept. You can take that even further by working with brands on different levels. Porsche is really missing out in that aspect by sticking with one brand that the consumer base doesn't even take seriously. I think most people would agree that EA's exclusivity is a massive waste of the Porsche brand in the digital universe. Everyone loses except EA, probably the most hated, least respected, and most joked about brand in the videogame industry.

But in the end we can blame EA all we want. Porsche agree to the deal so they're the real enemy. They certainly don't see the value in promoting and showing their brand in videogames and I really hope it hurts them in some way. I'm not saying they're going to fold or anything big that actually hurts them, but I hope they regret their decisions once they see videogame and manufacturer partnerships increasing in the future, something like the Vision GT program but to a different level. And then they take a step back and see that Mercedes, BMW, Ferrari, etc. are working with serious developers and games like Gran Turismo and Forza while integrating current and future development ideas for the benefit of the brands while Porsche has their strong association with a brand like EA Games producing games with their cars illegally street racing and outrunning cops.

Agree completely. Videogames are a good way to do some marketing and show the brand, stick to just a one company, and a today bad company (EA used to be good), is definitely a bad ideia.

There's also the problem that if PD/Sony did this, they'd essentially be saying "look, we're just like EA!"

And everybody hates EA.

I'd be going out of my way to do exactly the opposite of EA in every situation.

If they do that I would consider not play Gran Turismo anymore.
 
I didnt get it..

As far as I read this topic, people here didnt noticed the Porsches on Forza.

Those cars have been available for over a year. That isn't news.

Yes, they've been available for over a year, and they were only released as a DLC package for Forza 4. Forza 5 is, as of yet, without Porsche.

As for the topic, I'd say I hope they don't sign an exclusivity license with Nissan, or any other manufacturer for that matter.
These licenses only end up hurting us gamers who wants to have as many brands as possible in our games. As a Forza and GT enthusiast (and hoping that Project C.A.R.S will deliver) I'm really bummed that EA won't let us play with our Porsches, a manufacturer that I have a serious soft spot for.
 
How would an exclusivity license with NISSAN help PD? PD is already in such a close-knit relationship with Nissan that an exclusivity license would probably do nothing and might even be detrimental to the relationship between PD and Nissan if Nissan were to refuse (which they would).
 
If Polyphony starts using exclusive licenses, then they are no better than EA. We're starting to treat car manufacturers like hostages & I don't like that idea one bit.
 
I understand what the OP is getting at here, but overall, it's a selfish move. I really don't think EA would lose sleep if the GT-R or 370Z was absent from their games.

Turn 10, maybe, but they'd still deal with it.
 
For Everybody:
Forza got Porsches!!!! This is no lie, just look at here:
http://forzamotorsport.net/en-US/fm...1_Petersen-White_Lightning_911_GT3-RSR_(996)_

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Finally someone who's not been living under a rock. The Porsche DLC went online in may 2012 for Forza 4 users.

Porsche has been in the first forza game (cannot really check for forza 2 or 3) and I had such a problem driving the 1973 porsche 911 turbo, because of that blatent wing in the back who would send the car flying if it wasn't that I was stuck to the ground. Nonetheless.. there are other cars from Porsche that features in some other Microsoft Games, such as Project Gotham Racing.

My point is that Porsche must choose to whom they give a license to. Microsoft Gaming studios (Who evolved in turn 10 for forza 3 and 4) has no links whatsoever with EA.
The same process goes with Nissan I guess. There is a game I own for the Wii that has a car that looks like a GT-R, but is not called a GT-R because they do not have a license. And just take a look at all the lookalikes in the Burnout series.

Going further.. if you guys read the manuals that comes with these games, especially GT and/or Forza, some companies are not granting the license completely. Have guuys read what TVR says about that in the manual for an example??
 
Finally someone who's not been living under a rock. The Porsche DLC went online in may 2012 for Forza 4 users.

Porsche has been in the first forza game (cannot really check for forza 2 or 3) and I had such a problem driving the 1973 porsche 911 turbo, because of that blatent wing in the back who would send the car flying if it wasn't that I was stuck to the ground. Nonetheless.. there are other cars from Porsche that features in some other Microsoft Games, such as Project Gotham Racing.

My point is that Porsche must choose to whom they give a license to. Microsoft Gaming studios (Who evolved in turn 10 for forza 3 and 4) has no links whatsoever with EA.
The same process goes with Nissan I guess. There is a game I own for the Wii that has a car that looks like a GT-R, but is not called a GT-R because they do not have a license. And just take a look at all the lookalikes in the Burnout series.

Going further.. if you guys read the manuals that comes with these games, especially GT and/or Forza, some companies are not granting the license completely. Have guuys read what TVR says about that in the manual for an example??

T10 had to pay EA for the rights to Porsche. Porsche had no say in the matter because they signed that right away. I hope you see the problem with this.

It's almost as bad as patent trolls.
 
I suppose it happened that way. Porsche always has the option to send a cease and desist if they do not want EA to allow others to pay them to use the Porsche likeness, and definitiveely remove the official license to EA. If I were to issue a license to use my products, I would manage to include something like this. The Volkswagen Group must've thought of something like that if they were not happy. Same goes for all the makes the VWG possess.
 
I suppose it happened that way. Porsche always has the option to send a cease and desist if they do not want EA to allow others to pay them to use the Porsche likeness, and definitiveely remove the official license to EA. If I were to issue a license to use my products, I would manage to include something like this. The Volkswagen Group must've thought of something like that if they were not happy. Same goes for all the makes the VWG possess.

The Porsche licence exclusivity predates the VW ownership (and the VAG ownership of Porsche is much more complex than it is for any of the other subsidiaries); and by all accounts I've heard within the past year or so Porsche still seems perfectly happy to let EA do as they please with the thing so far.
 
One day T10 and PD will join forces hand in hand and will have mega exclusive deals that prevent the evil Darth electronic arts Vader from getting their hands on most car makers resulting in the destruction of Darth and his obnoxious Porsche deal so all racing fans will share all the glory unbound by the evil shackles that are exclusive deals

Hazaaaaaaaaaaaaah
 
One day T10 and PD will join forces hand in hand and will have mega exclusive deals that prevent the evil Darth electronic arts Vader from getting their hands on most car makers resulting in the destruction of Darth and his obnoxious Porsche deal so all racing fans will share all the glory unbound by the evil shackles that are exclusive deals

Hazaaaaaaaaaaaaah

In a dimension far far away I guess...

With that being said, I cannot imagine to have forza and or GT do a cross platform. this will either kill one console and/or franchise. They wouldn't let that happen.
 
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