Why no one is talking about how ridiculously expensive the Jaguar XJ13 is?
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You only played 7 hours per year? Or, about 12 hours in GTS? I mean, if you wanted it that bad one would think that 7 hours isn't the worst thing to put into a game.I played for a YEAR in GTS to get that 20mil Jag, and guess what....in February I was at almost 18mil. I even sold a lot of 1 mil cars I had, just for that Jag. I was seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
But on March 4th, I had to make space on my PS4 for GT7, so I had to uninstall GTS. And of course credits couldn't be transferred.
The dream of driving that amazing car again (since GT5 and GT6) was on hold. I thought "ok, relax, maybe it'll be easier to get it in GT7"
Then last night I saw the price in GT7
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I have a life...
Thank you. I really don't understand people commenting on how much time someone spends playing one specific game. I'm 37, not a teenager, nor am I a hikikomori.
Grinding with boring races is one the of the worst things PD could ever do to us. Feels like they made this game for the hikikomori.
It's not just about time, also about QUALITY time. I never got bored in FM doing events and online races (which really paid off) and from what I remember the economy system was acceptable.
In GT7 I have zero incentive to
1) do offline races after being done with the cafe menus
2) play online...where I get bashed around the track for, what, something less than 5.000 cr?...
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interesting you mentioned, i don't even remember doing same race on purpose to grind for cash in any of the forza games, i just played the game and bought cars only when i needed, now with gt7 i only bought maybe 2 cars because i had nothing useful or upgrades would cost more than just buying a faster car, problem is after you pretty much done with career if you play only on weekends it would take you 4 weeks at most, now obviously doing long half an hour race will maybe stretch to a month or two, online is broken atm and frankly i never cared for it, even in gts
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The thing you dont understand is cars price dont mean a thing. How fast you can obtain a car is matters. Gt7 has the far by the slowest and most boring grind of all gt games. In Gt5, Gt6 and Gt Sport you can obtain this car much faster. The reason it done to manipulating you to buy MTX. Simple as that.
Im not lazy, Im completely aware that Gran turismo games took long to complete but this is too much. I have a life and a job.
problem is cars on a timer and you don't know when they will circle back, now in gts you knew that carrot was the 20 mil and will always be there, so you could just take it easy and play as long as you want, instead of counting which track gives faster rewards
they just introduced fomo with these tactics which will force fools to depart with their cash and I'm sure next gran turismo you will be paying 200$ of real money and grinding will not even be an option or they will just make max payout 10k per race now grind that to 20 mil, again this is not some warcraft mmo its just a racing game, so let that sink in
they just introduced fomo with these tactics which will force fools to depart with their cash and I'm sure next gran turismo you will be paying 200$ of real money and grinding will not even be an option or they will just make max payout 10k per race now grind that to 20 mil, again this is not some warcraft mmo its just a racing game, so let that sink in
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Do you buy Fallout expecting to beat the game in a day? Do you buy Civilization or Total War expecting to run the map in a day? Did you play GTA5 and RDR2 expecting to dual-wield Mauser pistols right away? Back when you were a kid playing Pokemon Yellow were you annoyed at how long it took to level up and beat the Elite Four?
Gran Turismo is a game, which means it requires time and skill to progress through challenges, win competitions, and get good. If you want something you can play with on Day 1 go buy a GI Joe action figure or something.
Probably most people don't care about XJ13? I think XJ13 is only meaningful for three groups of people, collectors, die hard XJ13 (or Jaguar) fans and trophy hunters. There are many possibilities for the Three Legendary Cars trophy, and although I think 917K / Mark IV / 787B combo is the most plausible, but Mark IV / 330 P4 / XJ13 combo is also worth a shot. If they release 330 P4 within 4 days, I'll just test this theory.
You mean car collecting game without collecting? It's doesn't make much sense. How to read about a car if you don't have it? How see interior if you don't have it? How drive it? The game is based about car collecting and getting info about it. That's the main reason I bought it and why I have collector's edition of GTS. It was always full of a car info.
You paid full price, right? So you should get full game. I bought it because I wanted real racing sim.
What? Really different world. I play racing games because I like to race. Only few casual games has dumb career with unlocking. Assetto Corsa, ACC, R3E, rF2, Race07, GTR1, 2, Project cars 1, 2, GT Legends, F1... almost no racing game has any unlocking because it doesn't make much sense. And if so, it's easy to get everything because you already paid for it.
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You're missing something called the real world. Most people go to a place called school or work. When they get back from that they do something called home work or household chores. This leaves prime time as the only time for activities such as gaming or watching TV. Defending the indefensible doesn't make it any less indefensible.
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I think you mean 'defending what I personally don't like'. You see, I enjoy a game with a slow burn. I think the speed at which you get money is fine. I'd like to see it bumped up a little eventually. And I think it will. The gaming world is made up of all different sorts of games. Some are instant gratification, shiny new things. The problem for me personally with that is that it doesn't feel as good when you get that thing you wanted. This game is going to have more added to it, and over YEARS. Not months, not weeks, but years.
And this whole dig of 'some of us have jobs or school' is nonsense. I work full time. I also have a lot of responsibilities in my life. So don't try to imply that this game is only for lazy people or losers that have nothing else to do. It's for people with patience. At least if you want the rare classics, which I do. The few people that have them will make them more special
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I wonder how many of those complaining about grinding in GT7 are among those who want Elden Ring to be the GOTY? Wouldn't be surprised if it was a relatively high percentage.
I don't have time for this kind of gameplay. That's the reason GT7 feels so bad to me. I can't play it anymore. It would be interesting to check personality for Elden Ring. Maybe JRPG too, I don't play it either.
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Again defending credit payouts that LOOK made with microtransactions in mind by pretending grinding is good gameplay. Granted we are both looking at this from opposite sides of the spectrum but running what seems like endless laps of HSR doesn't feel like good game design. Additionally, once a car leaves Legend Cars, we don't know when it will appear again. Add a 20 million credit cap and limited numbers of days to get the 12 million or more doesn't sit well with me.
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What I don't understand are all those people who think that all the most expensive and most exclusive cars all should be easily obtainable just 7 days after the release of the game...
Yes, the XJ13 Jag is incredibl expensive...but I don't really care about that, I didn't think that i would be able to buy any of those cars after only one week of playing GT7..in GTS i was playing for a about a year until I was able to buy the XJ13, antdit was the only 20million car I ever was able to buy there...
Yes, the XJ13 Jag is incredibl expensive...but I don't really care about that, I didn't think that i would be able to buy any of those cars after only one week of playing GT7..in GTS i was playing for a about a year until I was able to buy the XJ13, antdit was the only 20million car I ever was able to buy there...
How did you manage to sell cars in GTS ?I played for a YEAR in GTS to get that 20mil Jag, and guess what....in February I was at almost 18mil. I even sold a lot of 1 mil cars I had, just for that Jag. I was seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
But on March 4th, I had to make space on my PS4 for GT7, so I had to uninstall GTS. And of course credits couldn't be transferred.
The dream of driving that amazing car again (since GT5 and GT6) was on hold. I thought "ok, relax, maybe it'll be easier to get it in GT7"
Then last night I saw the price in GT7
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You could sell cars you bought in GTS but not the gift ones
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I don't think I've see anyone in this subforum having a problem specifically with how expensive the cars are. Rather, what's being complained about is the process of acquiring the cars. Most races (especially online races) currently have rather poor payouts, cars (or at least prize cars) can't be sold for extra credits, and the cars and parts themselves appear to be pretty pricey. The actual money that a player can bring in (especially a player who prefers to do a variety of races and doesn't like sticking around in one car for too long) is much more limited compared to previous titles.
It's also worth noting that a lot of the high-price cars are tied to a rotating-door system where they may/may not be available for an indeterminant amount of time, and PD themselves have stated that the values of the cars in the Hagerty shop can change over time. That's literally PD saying (likely using their partnership with Hagerty as a scapegoat) that they can/will adjust the game's economy over time, which is a bit concerning seeing as how the game's economy is currently geared towards encouraging MTX purchases. So far, it seems the best method around this is to grind one specific race over and over and over for hours on end, and (best-case scenario) that would require 8+ hours of doing that one race just to have enough cash for the XJ-13. Keep in mind as well that there are some cars that are even more expensive.
It's a bit asinine (and scummy) that a core portion of GT7s progression system is built around collecting all the cars, yet GT7's economy is not only built in a way to make doing so as tedious, time-consuming and unfun as possible, but to also encourage people to buy in-game credits with real money to expedite the process (not helped by there apparently being a limit to how many "free" credits you can have in the game).
The people who are defending these systems tend to be looking at it from the standpoint of "well it doesn't bother me specifically," and aren't looking at the bigger picture(s) of how this affects GT7 in the long run, and how this could potentially effect future entries. There's a reason that the gaming industry has (rightfully) been getting a lot of heat from both consumers and/or world governments over the last several years when it comes to microtransactions and grind-heavy games.
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