Why people hate 4WD drifter?

[NeilSean]

How about doing it for fun or has everyone forgotten what that is?
I swear that some people take the game far too serious.
OP if you want to use a AWD car just do it, If you get kicked oh well. You can just make your own room and if people join and complain, just tell them to deal with it.

And if people don't like my option on the subject just chill.

 

[peetr33 95]

How about doing it for fun or has everyone forgotten what that is?
I swear that some people take the game far too serious.
OP if you want to use a AWD car just do it, If you get kicked oh well. You can just make your own room and if people join and complain, just tell them to deal with it.

And if people don't like my option on the subject just chill.

I agree with you completely. It's just a game guys, jeez.

 

[viperbeatsvette]

AWD is like training wheels. Drifting contains a lot of power and steering control, and AWD makes it easier far easier to control.

i dont drift often, but i dont kick for it.

 

[ISLYDWAYZI]

welcome to gtp drift forums and dont use drugs, specialy awd.

hahaha wiiiin of all sorts

 

[ESD]

I believe most people here don't care that much about the AWD guys until they are run off the road, or slammed into by them. I guess you could say the same about anyone with that much disrespect towards people though. I started out using AWD because, like mentioned before, I could control the car a lot easier. I never once had a desire to get involved in the debate about AWD vs RWD "drifting." In the beginning my only goal was to have fun, and sliding that car around the track completely sideways was a blast. But, that lasted only so long, and soon, I wanted to branch out. I didn't change to RWD to fit in around here, I did it because it was a challenge. I think if you could talk to the guys on here face to face, one on one, they would probably tell you to "drift" how you want in your own room, just don't ruin the experience we are trying to have by not making an effort to fit in. There should be no problems in public lobbies as long as they are properly titled and the restrictions are set accordingly. I don't have one problem with AWD, occasionally I love it, but if I'm in a room trying to tandem and some dude slams me, well lets face it, I'm human....I makes people mad. For me it's simple, respect what each lobby is about and the people in those lobbies and you'll have a great time no matter what you want to drive.

 

[MakOh01]

Alright, i'm a software developer, so i encounter problems all the time so here's my view on this thread;

PROBLEM: It is hated to drift with AWD and anything other than CH tires in online matches.
RESULT: Butthurt ensues in a match and you get kicked.

SOLUTION: Don't join RWD CH matches if you insist on using AWD cars.
SOLUTION2: Make your own match with no restrictions.
SOLUTION3: Don't play online.

There are only problems if you make them one.

 

[Stavingo]

Alright, i'm a software developer, so i encounter problems all the time so here's my view on this thread;

Seems legit homie.

 

[angrykoala_89]

i dont see why people hate AWD drifters, cause i see more noobs with FR's that i see people with AWD, most people i run into with AWD are awesome. i just think most FR's are trash, like the people driving them. just facts here.

 

[Stavingo]

i dont see why people hate AWD drifters, cause i see more noobs with FR's that i see people with AWD, most people i run into with AWD are awesome. i just think most FR's are trash, like the people driving them. just facts here.

I think Jesus wept at that last sentence.

 

[zedfonsie]

Just end the thread, these "haters" already stated there reason. 4wd is fast, unskillful and not realistic. End.

 

[Nismo34]

i dont see why people hate AWD drifters, cause i see more noobs with FR's that i see people with AWD, most people i run into with AWD are awesome. i just think most FR's are trash, like the people driving them. just facts here.

Bravo, good show, good show.
Lemme guess, you use racing slick for drifting? And no, that isnt fact, thats a matter of opinion. Everyone's opinion is different, claiming something like that is fact is just an argument stirrer and isnt necessary. Do you have proof to support or comment about FR beinge more noob-ish than AWD?

 

[taz]

i dont see why people hate AWD drifters, cause i see more noobs with FR's that i see people with AWD, most people i run into with AWD are awesome. i just think most FR's are trash, like the people driving them. just facts here.

Based on those last two sentences, the drifting forum isn't the place for you

 

[TheAnon]

The argues between the wise and the fools wont have an end.

God, lock this thread already mods?

 

[Kievit]

Tbh I think there is a lot of prejudice towards AWD cars. There is no reason why RWD and AWD cars can't drift on the same track. If someone is faster it dousn't mean (s)he's going to crash into you and if (s)he dous, it's not the car that is at fault.

Ok, so they're easy to control. Yes,.. they are fast. Oh and they get rediculous angle, right?

Those are good properties for a drift car.

Sincerely,

- Devil's advocate

 

[zedfonsie]

The reason why they get ridiculous angle and are easy to drift is because there 4wd and are impossible to spin out. Those are signs of someone who can't drift. We don't use rwd cause it gets more angle. We do it cause it ACTUALLY takes some skill.


It goes for rwd too, the community used to be full of people with zr1's and dodge vipers.
Now its supras, ft-86s and s chassis.

 

[K1ngKlicK]

The kids that cry about being hated on for using AWD & grippy tires, are generally too young to drive in real life, and don't know anything about drifting other than they saw tokyo drift that one time

If they stopped being so stubborn and let some knowledge creep into their little heads they might realise that it would be wise to get an FR car, slap some CH on, then suck it up and LEARN HOW TO TANDEM.

I learned on sports hards, and gradually worked my way to CH, as I saw that the best drifters in the game used those tires. I didn't whine about it, because I actually wanted to progress my skills, but I guess these kids are happy being noobs. 👎

Or maybe, they should sell their copies of GT5 and go play NFS or something

 

[ViscousTraction]

I know right? They make such a big fuss about 4WD drifting. How does it make them mad, I don't do anything wrong and they don't even put "NO 4WD" in their lobbies.

 

[JR86]

People dislike 4WD drifters because they think they don't have the skill to use a RWD car which I find is sort of stupid. I have certain 4WD drift cars which I love to drift but I'm not a novice. I say look at the driver, not the car. It's not what you drive, its how you drive

 

[Lazy Liquid]

I just realize... after all these argumentations (and no thread locking so far), people didn´t pointed the critical situation about online drifting and awd:

1 - Online drifting is basicaly drift together with someone or a group (drift trains, tandems, competitions, just chilling in sideways...).

2 - AWD are easier to start a drift and force extreme angle? YES. AWD are as good as RWD to maintain angle and adjust the car while drifting? NO, even 10-90 will suffer understering at some situations of angle adjustments.

3 - Ok, so AWD can´t tandem RWD naturaly and fairly. So why even 2 AWD can´t tandem properly (no pretending, no make-ups) together since they are in both conditions? The best answer is that AWD drifting is not a co-op way of mantain slides, because you can´t change your mind while drifting and take a diferent line, your only concern will to be able to beat that corner in sideways. Its not a driver´s selfism, its a drivetrain condition.

PS.: For some smarta** that comes here to say that "i can do tandem with awd x awd or awd x rwd", save your time because i dont buy it. There is 2 ways of tandem: Doing it and pretending it. AWD can just pretend it, pulling back the car and stoping to drift when you will smack your partner.

 

[DawgCCCP]

Its simple, there is no AWD cars in real D1 series..
AWD "drifting" is powersliding nothing more nothing else
Drifting always been FWD, so get over it AWD drifters..

Good bye, close topic lol

 

[1241Penguin]

Its simple, there is no AWD cars in real D1 series..
AWD "drifting" is powersliding nothing more nothing else
Drifting always been FWD, so get over it AWD drifters..

Good bye, close topic lol

If you say so.

Why do you people consider D1 to be the base for drifting? Because there's more to drifting than that.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

excluded post... double posting by accident happens, specialy when the forum is in maintance.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

Its simple, there is no AWD cars in real D1 series..
AWD "drifting" is powersliding nothing more nothing else
Drifting always been FWD, so get over it AWD drifters..

Good bye, close topic lol

Hahahahahaha... "R" is so close to "F" in the keyboard...

About the D1 argument, i dont care about it so much. Sector Competitions, Touge Drifting, Full Lap Tandems... anything... you can´t bring a bazooka to a knife party.

 

[Stavingo]

People dislike 4WD drifters because they think they don't have the skill to use a RWD car which I find is sort of stupid. I have certain 4WD drift cars which I love to drift but I'm not a novice. I say look at the driver, not the car. It's not what you drive, its how you drive.

I must agree on this viewpoint, but little kids online with their tuned up AWD drift cars ramming everyone off the track tarnishes the image of proper AWD drifting.

If the damn thing can tandem and hold a good lead, hell I don't mind it being on the same track or lobby as me.

 

[HE1RO]

You realize this thread was started by a new member. Welcome to GTP.

Anyways, we shouldn't blame new members or the very few kids who play GT5 for wanting to start Ken Blockn-it on the course with other drifters. The problem is the majority rule, which is that RWD is the main choice for drifting.

Instead of asking why, or trying to explain your style of drifting in text format, focus more on respecting other peoples preferences. Believe it or not it is actually possible to make your own room and set your own regulations, you can even restrict all RWD cars and only allow AWD. Dont forget to name the room something catchy or vulgar.... vulgarity usually works all the time. lol

 

[SPANK]

I actually don't mind drifting with an awd with the right settings. Still hard to tandem though.

 

[Kitten]

OR backward entry 360 into a drift Drifting backwards, 90 degree drift that is what u call 4wd

 

[Kitten]

The kids that cry about being hated on for using AWD & grippy tires, are generally too young to drive in real life, and don't know anything about drifting other than they saw tokyo drift that one time

If they stopped being so stubborn and let some knowledge creep into their little heads they might realise that it would be wise to get an FR car, slap some CH on, then suck it up and LEARN HOW TO TANDEM.

I learned on sports hards, and gradually worked my way to CH, as I saw that the best drifters in the game used those tires. I didn't whine about it, because I actually wanted to progress my skills, but I guess these kids are happy being noobs. 👎

Or maybe, they should sell their copies of GT5 and go play NFS or something

I totally Agreed i started on SH, and went to CH and Though i went from my R32 to a 350z to rx7 and on

 

[GTWelsh]

The main reason I think, and it was the main reason I always disliked AWD drifting was because, although its fine to do, and I think its awesome fun (but seriously easy).

Imagine this, coming up to last corner at Tsukuba...

*Looks in rear view mirror*
*Spots R34 Skyline GTR coming up fast*
*Gives benefit of the doubt*
*Gets smashed off the track due to person either forgetting they have brakes, not realising AWD cars "drift" (mostly) a lot faster than RWD cars, or they just didn't care.*

This happened that many times I just began to tar all AWD drivers in a drift room with the same brush. So to speak.


AWD can NOT tandem with RWD drifter, unless skilled with correct setup, which is rare.

I dont have GT5 anymore, or a PS3 for that matter, but if I find one at a good price I will be getting GT again, I miss it so much haha. But I was pretty hardcore up until a few months ago. In the D-Max drift team and what not.

Yet to date I think I only drifted regularly with one driver that could tandem in AWD.

So I have nothing against it, I just hate being hit by silly AWD drifters.

 

[eight6er]

It's like trying to run a touring car room and guys come along in Veyrons and x-1s, then complain they get hated on when they are kicked.
Drifters will consider a person using 4WD a noob, because they don't know enough about drifting to know that 4WD is not allowed in real life. This is a driving sim after all and people want to try and make things as realistic as possible.