Why people hate 4WD drifter?

[GODfreyGT5]

(urgh here we go)

Yes, very good you can get this much angle, but people much further respect RWD due to how much more impressive any angle is. Meaning that if a RWD hit's a corner with 120 degrees, it's purely amazing, whereas in a 4WD it's very plain and boring.

 

[JR86]

4WD backward entrys are more gymkhana than drifting

 

[monsterGAUZ]

Thats a great reverse entry, but you can't beat AWD with RWD in the angle department.

Sincerely,

- Devil's advocate

I and many other drifters can get this angle with a RWD car so you can say we have 176242314764876142568465 times more skill.
That beats everything

 

[DawgCCCP]

Drifting is not about reverse entries...

There is so much facepalm in this thread I want to laugh hard

 

[Kievit]

inb4thatpicturewastakenbeforeyouspunout.

Yep.jpeg

I did not. This should be enough evidence IMO, but if you disagree, take my word for it as I don't have any other pictures of it.

(urgh here we go)
Yes, very good you can get this much angle, but people much further respect RWD due to how much more impressive any angle is. Meaning that if a RWD hit's a corner with 120 degrees, it's purely amazing, whereas in a 4WD it's very plain and boring.

I and many other drifters can get this angle with a RWD car so you can say we have 176242314764876142568465 times more skill.
That beats everything

As I've said before; it takes skill to drive/drift any car at the limit. It takes more skill to do 120° in a RWD car, because the limits of RWD and AWD are different. That's also why you shouldn't compare them 1:1.

That said: Someone dous a 120° entry with a RWD car, then gets in a AWD car and dous 140°. If it takes (hypothetically) the same "amount" of skill to do. What would you like to see more? and why?

*Hypothetically, because skill is very hard to quantify.

Sincerely,

- Devil's advocate

 

[Duman079]

AWD drift is better then 4WD.... You deserve a Cup for that LOL.

Seriously, every type of car has an ability but it makes no sence to say AWD drift is requiring more experience and is better. 4WD are amazing rally cars, RWD amazing drift and drag cars. It's like doing Formula 1 with AWD and saying that its harder. Come on man, of course you are free to drift or sail whatever you like,but I'm sorry to say , this sounds a bit silly to me.

Why in earth would you do that, In my opinion 4WD is abusing and destroying the beauty of the RWD drifting.

 

[HE1RO]

Drifting is not about reverse entries...

There is so much facepalm in this thread I want to laugh hard

I got this for ya... *AHEM*

IM LSHMAFO (laughing so hard my 🤬 falls off)

 

[Stavingo]

*Hypothetically, because skill is very hard to quantify.

Sincerely,

- Devil's advocate

Not really, in the drift forum we have 3 levels of drift skills for new comers and anicent ones who use these forums:

noob - ken block - dorifto king


Problem solved officer.

 

[xChrisGTRx]

Alot of Good Answers to This question

 

[zedfonsie]

Ha ken block! In all of his videos, you can see tons of tread marks when you play his videos. I completely hate when people say "ken block is the best drifter eva" First of all he is not a drifter, he is a rally car driver. And even at that he sucks, even though it's his rookie year he crashes more cars then I can count.

Anyways... I don't like 4wd cause it's no spin so no fun.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

Not really, in the drift forum we have 3 levels of drift skills for new comers and anicent ones who use these forums:

noob - ken block - dorifto king


Problem solved officer.

Correcting:

ken block < noob < RWD drifter < dorifto king

 

[GODfreyGT5]

Fighting fighting fighting....

 

[K1ngKlicK]

Why is this thread still open? I thought discussion of this topic was banned anyway?

 

[Nismo34]

Why is this thread still open? I thought discussion of this topic was banned anyway?

I dont believe discussion was banned, but arguing the topic is...

 

[shmogt]

Ok I mine as well give my views. I don't like 4wd drift not really sure why just weird for me. A lot of people ask for me to tune 4wd cars and I don't usually, but every once in a while you gotta switch it up. So one guy says do the VW bug the RSI version. I wasn't expecting much since its heavy, has low HP, and is 4wd but the car is awesome. You would have no idea it's 4wd or a bug since its drifts just like my supra. I'm thinking people don't like 4wd just because they haven't tried many 4wd drift cars and stick to the more popular 4wd drifters which actually aren't very good.

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

No awd in D1, nuff said, end of thread! 👍

You have a point, but it is also not as "Exciting" and "Limitless" as AWD Drifting.. I respect both

 

[Stavingo]

Correcting:

ken block < noob < RWD drifter < dorifto king

Sounds legit.

 

[Mkey]

I don't Post much, been a long time member and Lurker, I for one drift both, I have a Lancer EVO setup for AWD drifting, I never take it online, but drift it around Autumn mini from time to time just for a laugh, I have an RX7 and a 370z I use online and offline for "normal" drifting.

Personally I can both sides of the Arguments, I understand where the Traditionalists are coming from, True Drifting is RWD only, always has been and always will be, mind you I'll bet that at least some of the Die hard RWD drift fanatics have hidden away, somewhere, a 4WD/AWD Drifter, that only comes out when late at night when they think no one is watching!

I would suggest to these Guys that are not happy about being kicked out of Drifting rooms for dragging out there AWD drift machines, create your own rooms, kick out anyone who dares to bring in a 2WD drive car.
problem solved!

But this is one of those arguments that will never ever be settled.

 

[Stavingo]

Bringing up the question as to why people who don't like AWD drifters restrict their lobbies.

derp.

 

[Mkey]

Bringing up the question as to why people who don't like AWD drifters restrict their lobbies.

derp.

Stop thinking logically!

 

[SKOT_FREE]

The reason people hate 4wd drifters is because they watch too much initial d!

 

[Stavingo]

The reason people hate 4wd drifters is because they watch too much initial d!

Cool story bro.

 

[Hayden]

I'm thinking people don't like 4wd just because they haven't tried many 4wd drift cars and stick to the more popular 4wd drifters which actually aren't very good.

It's not that their not good to slide, they are, the problem occurs when people are ran off the road by the much faster 4WD in the middle of a tandem. When people start saying things like this...

i dont see why people hate AWD drifters, cause i see more noobs with FR's that i see people with AWD, most people i run into with AWD are awesome. i just think most FR's are trash, like the people driving them. just facts here.

Hatred ensues.

...mind you I'll bet that at least some of the Die hard RWD drift fanatics have hidden away, somewhere, a 4WD/AWD Drifter, that only comes out when late at night when they think no one is watching!

I'll admit that I have a R32 Touring Car that i've been fiddling with lately. I wouldn't dare bring it out in public, but there's something really satisfying about sliding around the TGTT, relaxing by myself in the beast.

The reason people hate 4wd drifters is because they watch too much initial d!

 

[viSEANaries]

I normally just use the torque censoring differential for AWD vehicles and turn the front torque to zero. feels just like an FR after.Thats just me..

 

[Flippin]

I normally just use the torque censoring differential for AWD vehicles and turn the front torque to zero. feels just like an FR after.Thats just me..

Can't do that. You still got a 10/90 torque.
Personally I see nothing wrong with AWD drifting. I got the Falken GTR and I can hit the same lines, same angles, same speeds as every other FR on Suzuka. In everything in life, there is a preferred method, the right method, and everyone else.

To people here on GTP, the preferred method and the right method are the same for them and it seems like thats final with some of the members. They feel as though they are the voice of the drifting community when in actuality they have practically no say.

As quoted from the all mighty Wikipedia "Drifting refers to a driving technique and to a motorsport where the driver intentionally oversteers, causing loss of traction in the rear wheels through turns, while maintaining vehicle control and a high exit speed." No where in that does it say anything about, "Only restricted to RWD and absolutely no AWD cars are aloud to be considered drift worthy"

 

[daveydeez]

Hi, I play Gt5 since almost one week and begins to drift a couple days ago. I have to admit that there is a real problem in this comunity. I come from forza, and I am a good forza drifter, most people drift rwd in forza, some drift awd, but nobody care about that, why in gt5 people HATE, they dont only dont like, they HATE 4wd drifter, why??? Is it easier?? I know its not really real life to drift awd car, but why people are so upset about that???

add me, i run my room so that you can use any tire, and any platform, hassle free!

 

[Sselecta]

As quoted from the all mighty Wikipedia "Drifting refers to a driving technique and to a motorsport where the driver intentionally oversteers, causing loss of traction in the rear wheels through turns, while maintaining vehicle control and a high exit speed." No where in that does it say anything about, "Only restricted to RWD and absolutely no AWD cars are aloud to be considered drift worthy"

You people just don't get it. The issue here is very simple. You have four wheels working at the same time. You can't maintain the same speed, angle or car control overall as a RWD. It's all about pedal to the metal and takes no skill at all. Countersteering? What's that?

Besides the obvious facts, it looks hideous. People behind these cars always tend to end up ruining public rooms and tandems. And that would be main reason why most people hate 4WD drifters, including myself.

Leave 4WD where they belong. In Rally and Time Attacks.

Edit : Sorry for reviving the topic. Had to get it off my chest.

 

[Yauma9]

The kids that cry about being hated on for using AWD & grippy tires, are generally too young to drive in real life, and don't know anything about drifting other than they saw tokyo drift that one time

If they stopped being so stubborn and let some knowledge creep into their little heads they might realise that it would be wise to get an FR car, slap some CH on, then suck it up and LEARN HOW TO TANDEM.

I learned on sports hards, and gradually worked my way to CH, as I saw that the best drifters in the game used those tires. I didn't whine about it, because I actually wanted to progress my skills, but I guess these kids are happy being noobs. 👎

Or maybe, they should sell their copies of GT5 and go play NFS or something

I'm too young to drive IRL, but I use CH, and RWD, I like challenges, so that was fun, also I'm learning to tandem, but It's hard

 

[JR86]

I thought this thread was locked. Well, seeing as it's open I'll say: I drift an R33 but I don't tandem with others in FR cars. Drifting FR is better but I don't see any harm in 4WDing sometimes. If a N00b drifts a 4WD then someone better tell him to drift 2 wheels until he's good. If someone calls me a n00b for 4 wheel drifting then come at me bro! Lets tandem.

 

[Drift_Monkey]

entertaining... I don't mind AWD drifting. To be honest i started using AWD to drift then realized that drifting a FR takes a lot more skill and tandeming is on a whole other level.

What gets us annoyed about AWD drifters is that they would join a room with RWD and tire restrictions and ask, "Can you change the restrictions so i can drift my r34".... You gotta be kidding me. And then on top of that you say "it's not awd bro i put the power to the back"... if you did maths you would know that 10/90 is still power to 4 wheels.

I thought this thread was locked. Well, seeing as it's open I'll say: I drift an R33 but I don't tandem with others in FR cars. Drifting FR is better but I don't see any harm in 4WDing sometimes. If a N00b drifts a 4WD then someone better tell him to drift 2 wheels until he's good. If someone calls me a n00b for 4 wheel drifting then come at me bro! Lets tandem.

Yeah well a FR tandeming with a AWD is not going to happen. Two totally different styles of drifting.

On the topic of tires, sports tires in the game are semi slicks and are made for racing. No drifter in real life uses semi slicks to drift because:
1 way too much grip to get any angle and maintain it
2 way to expensive
3 Drifting is not about being faster

And to everyone who says "it's just a game"... It's a driving simulator for a reason (to simulate real life). If to you it's just a game then you have never played any previous GT and don't understand what GT was made for.