This is a pretty serious accusation
Okay, that was a bit over the top, it has been a long week. But as for the rest...
That's still intentionally missing my point; Standards, if included in GT7, can't have the sorts of bodykit options Premiums can.
I'm not understanding this. Bodykits are built to the car, even Premiums. And I know you don't want them to work on Standard cars, but I seem to recall a lot of complaining that Standard cars couldn't even have their wheels changed in GT5 for the longest time, so evidently there are a lot of people who like to tinker with these cars. They did some touch up work on quite a few cars, as there were threads exploring this back in the early days of GT5. PD accommodated them, so I don't agree that Standards can't be changed at all.
You really are just ignoring parts of my posts that don't line up with what you want them to say, huh? Yes, Standards could get higher-resolution textures applied to them. Do I expect that to happen to the vast amount of Standards that still haven't received any updates since GT4? How many Standards were brought up to RUF-levels of quality, a few dozen? Under a hundred, surely - not counting the body-duping that is the NA Miatas, at any rate. So that was roughly 1/8 of the Standards updated, over three years. To think every Standard will have a high-res update is a flight of fancy, unless you'd like GT7 in late 2017 or so.
I'm not getting this either. Are you insisting that it takes six man months to skin a car? And you are aware that PD is working on two games right now, aren't you? So the modelers are doing whatever they're doing, the artists are working on their assignments, and we don't know what that is. Also note that I'm not saying
every Standard car is going to be modeled into a sub-Prem or get a high res skins. In fact, I suggested that because PD is working on two games and resources are kind of tight, probably even with a round of hiring, to focus on cars that would fit into a racing league format. I also pointed out that many of those cars have a Prem which is used in or similar to a car used in racing leagues. For the rest, upgrade the Standds and give them racing versions, including the RUFs.
You're actually going to bring up '90's BMW's as a model of diversity? The company that made the "different lengths of the same sausage" saying a thing? I won't link images either, so you'll have to Google them too, but just looking at the core 3/5/7-series line through the 80's and 90's, I again have to ask: seriously? Look at the E30, then look at the E34, then finally, E32. There's one generation. Next, compare the E36, E39, and E38 - another sausage party, really. And if you think they're curvier than what came later - you know, the oft-maligned Bangle years - I'm at a loss for words.
Where did I say I don't see a difference between the Countach and... okay, that's an odd pairing to stick the super-limited Reventon into, where a Diablo would make way more sense - and an Aventador? I'd certainly hope there's a difference between two cars' styling when they have nearly 40 years between them.
Ferrari: "5-series" doesn't indicate front-engine, FWIW. You're all over the map, though; you're comparing the 550/575 to the 360 and accusing them of samey looks, which is to be expected when they were part of the same decade. Just take a look at the current crop; they all feature the same frightened, pulled-back headlights and grinning grille. But then you point out the middle trio of their top-tier supercars, and even more bizarrely, stick the F355 in there too. Of course designs look a lot different in the 15 years between the F40's introduction and the Enzo's, and of course the entry level model of the mid-90's looks different from them all.
Yes, let's lament the daring designs of the past, like the 80's:
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Yes, I actually like those car designs. You may not. You may much prefer the teardrop shapes of the past several year rut the car makers have fallen into across the board, but those cars look much nicer to me. And if you saw those cars in person, I doubt that you'd say they all looked alike. If you're going to make a two door hatchback, it's going to have a certain shape to it. I also think it's quite amusing that your source image is titled,
Did someone say 80s sports cars? I 🤬 LOVE 80S SPORTS CARS
But what I lament is this:
Nissan Altima
Kia Optima (good grief, even the names are similar)
Chevrolet SS
Chevrolet Cruze
BMW 328
BMW 330
Lexus IS
I think I shouldn't have to continue with this, though I could easily. And look, other than the SS, these are the cars
I like. I really dig the Optima and would love to own one, but this isn't what I call market blazing daring design. And from
completely different car makers, dig. I know this is all a matter of opinion and taste, but seriously.
And to bring this around to the topic at hand, this is why I like, I dare to say, the cars from about 1984 to 2004, twenty years of some pretty darn good and much loved sports cars. If you don't love them, there are tons of people on Jalopnik who do. And by golly, this is where the Standards shine, as a memorial to what I consider the period of some real sports car development, where the snappy bullet-shaped
1988 Nissan 300ZX became the soap-dishy but supercarish, muscular
1990 300ZX, one of those teardrops I dearly love, and nothing else is like it. And a design progression which seems to only happen with supercars the last few years.
As for
@TayeezSA, I understand your sentiments, as with everyone who has a dislike for the Standards. But to say that GT3 A-Spec was a great game, it wasn't because of the small car and track list, it was in spite of it. I know that Forza 5 has its fans, but the gamers are voting with their wallets, and many of them are sticking with Forza 4, a game which is two to four times as large, depending on how you look at it. And I know that GT7 would be larger than Forza 5 in Premium car count, but tracks? This is where most people here backtrack a little and say that maybe those Standard tracks like Deep Forest and Trial Mountain aren't so bad, because having a handful of courses to race gets older much quicker than with cars.
As for the "I'm gonna die" remarks, I have to say that at least "I'm gonna die if I don't get my Standards" makes more sense than "I'm gonna die if I SEE a Standard." But that's just me.
In any case, Kaz is going to do what he wants, so we can either buy GT7 or not. It's a free universe, at least in this case, and I plan on exercising that freedom just as soon as I can.