Windows... 10?!?
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Really? First time I hear this, wouldn't surprise me though...
The only way to get around this update is disable the windows update service I suppose.
There are laptops that use Android as their OS, usually have an Intel Atom, I almost bought one, if you don't plan to play many "windows games" or video processing(?) there's no reason not to get one of those.
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Lenovo and Asus make Android notebooks / convertibles, too.
And I think those are cheaper than chromebooks and probably more open, too.
And I think those are cheaper than chromebooks and probably more open, too.
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HP as well, or at least they used to. I have an HP Slate 21 which is basically an Android with a 21" touchscreen, a mouse and a keyboard. It's getting a little long in the tooth (Android 4.4.2) but I still love it.
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Kitkat was a great version of Android, but I don't think that it's the best. The design language of Lollipop and newer versions (Material Design) makes everything feel a lot more polished, in my opinion.
The only problems that I have with Material Design are that some apps poorly implement it, which often leads to poor use of space (Google's own apps are notorious for this), and the blinding white UI.
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It has a nice little function called "Darkroom"
The screen is black and red.
Quite nice to use.
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Really late to the party here but that is a terrible idea. Depending on the version of the 480 you get. The 580 draws a lot more power and some 480 with only the 6 pin connector going to have a bad time. The 580 cards mostly seem to have a 6 pin and 8 pin connector. If it doesn't fry the card you will be running it way past specs and will shorten its life quiet a lot I would imagine.
https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/248044-flashing-rx-480-gpu-rx-580-bios-really-really-bad-idea
on topic I'm planning a new build next month and will be upgrading to windows 10. I wanted to try forza horizon 3 but its locked to dx12, that is locked to win10.
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I don't usually come to this area of the site, but I've had a bit of an issue with Windows 10's latest update to Ver. 1703
In short, it's not ready. There's stories of people's computers not functioning right, some have specific programs that won't run at all or run poorly, all while (predictably) others had no issues at all.
My problem with the update is that my Lenovo desktop could recognize the Ethernet and WiFi connections, but it would not connect to the internet in any capacity. Tried Edge, IE, and even Steam wouldn't connect, which was my red flag.
Easiest solution is either don't update or if you've done it already roll back to the last working version.
In short, it's not ready. There's stories of people's computers not functioning right, some have specific programs that won't run at all or run poorly, all while (predictably) others had no issues at all.
My problem with the update is that my Lenovo desktop could recognize the Ethernet and WiFi connections, but it would not connect to the internet in any capacity. Tried Edge, IE, and even Steam wouldn't connect, which was my red flag.
Easiest solution is either don't update or if you've done it already roll back to the last working version.
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Not happy with the new update either. Since I did it, it's really slowed down stuff being run of my SATA HDD and made stuff really laggy when toggling between window tiles. 🤬 annoying.
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Yeah, they must know it's not ready - cmon, Microsoft is a lot of things, but they're not stupid... and yet they still force this on to their paying customers (if you recently bought a computer with Windows 10, it wasn't for "free" in any case).
If you search for "issues with Windows 10 creators update" on the internet it's absolutely stunning how many issues are popping up - even though MS supposedly makes sure the update is ready for the devices it "unlocks" the update for.
And it's always the same 30+ issues people are having. Bad wifi, slow PC's, slow laptops "wrong" labels for apps and settings, tiny fonts, log in issues, not correctly working start ups / hibernating and so on...
Btw, I'm now having the following issue, my laptop (lenovo) already downloaded the "creators update" and it keeps asking me to restart and install it or to "snooze" the update. Of course I choose "snooze" but this won't defer the update forever, I also have to actually restart my laptop at some point... So I'm wondering what would happen if I disable the update service now - will this stop windows from updating or is this only to stop it from downloading updates?
I've searched, but I don't find an answer for this specific question...
I would also like to upgrade to the pro version as it actually gives you a defer updates option, but I don't think this is a good idea right now as it already downloaded the update - and this surely would conflict somehow.
I also don't trust the "rollback option" to go back to a previous version AT ALL I've also read some people who updated to the creators update (while not wrong I find it pretty infamous that MS refers to themselves as creator btw.. ) simply don't have this option anymore....
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So after doing some more research - deleting the software distribution / "download" folder and disabling the windows update process should actually stop windows from updating.
So again, my question is will this actually work - at least temporarily until I upgrade to "pro" or Windows 8?
I really don't want this creators update, there's nothing in it for me, except a slower computer, even the so called game mode makes games running actually worse reportedly - which isn't exactly surprising, yet undesirable.
So again, my question is will this actually work - at least temporarily until I upgrade to "pro" or Windows 8?
I really don't want this creators update, there's nothing in it for me, except a slower computer, even the so called game mode makes games running actually worse reportedly - which isn't exactly surprising, yet undesirable.
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I have a Windows 10 computer here, that needed some tlc, and while it was just cleaning up stuff and such, it downloaded a ransomware virus (Says Windows Defender).
It did it at 22:00, roughly, and at that time all that was running was Windows itself, and Ccleaner. I already checked for malicious software with various programs, but nothing popped up.
How did that Chrome font.exe get downloaded onto the computer while there was no browser running, or any other program?
It did it at 22:00, roughly, and at that time all that was running was Windows itself, and Ccleaner. I already checked for malicious software with various programs, but nothing popped up.
How did that Chrome font.exe get downloaded onto the computer while there was no browser running, or any other program?
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Hmm, guys? Will deleting (or renaming) the / software distribution / >download< folder work or will this just mess up my laptop?
I've also just remembered having read something about a hide option for updates that are already downloaded will that work?
I'm really scared to turn on my laptop at all right now after reading all the issues with this creators update - I mean it affects exactly the things I'm using my laptop for - music, videos, Bluetooth, games... I don't even use it for browsing or anything (reminds me I need to uninstall chrome, it keeps opening when I click on help menus and such even though I set windows edge as my default browser).
But yeah, how do I get this obviously buggy update to not to install on my computer?
I've also just remembered having read something about a hide option for updates that are already downloaded will that work?
I'm really scared to turn on my laptop at all right now after reading all the issues with this creators update - I mean it affects exactly the things I'm using my laptop for - music, videos, Bluetooth, games... I don't even use it for browsing or anything (reminds me I need to uninstall chrome, it keeps opening when I click on help menus and such even though I set windows edge as my default browser).
But yeah, how do I get this obviously buggy update to not to install on my computer?
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It is best to rename folders and files with .old or .bak at the end of them
You might get an error, worst comes to worst windows update wont work and you will get annoying errors to you can load in.
The simple fix is, remove the .bak or .old part at the end.
You might get an error, worst comes to worst windows update wont work and you will get annoying errors to you can load in.
The simple fix is, remove the .bak or .old part at the end.
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Eh, I thought more of simply renaming (if not outright deleting - I could make a backup to usb first) the "download" folder under "Software distribution" which if my information is correct contains all update files (old and new) to something like "Totally not a Windows update folder"... And then set my connection to metered so it doesn't download the update again.
I just don't know what will really happen if I do that. Best case it just doesn't update. Worst case obviously would be something breaks.
I mean my biggest concern right now is that I don't have an option to" restart" only "restart and update", this would ideally have to change back to the normal "restart" option if my plan is working out.
And the "hide updates" option wouldn't work? That would obviously be the easiest solution, but I don't really trust it tbh. Wouldn't be the first time windows lied to me...
EDIT :
Ok I downloaded this program from Microsoft : wushowhide.diagcab which is supposed to "hide" "unwanted" updates - but it tells me there are no updates to hide... Of course! Lol
So now I've just renamed the >Download folder from > Software Distribution to >"Totally - Not - A - Download - File" and moved it somewhere else (not in the > Microsoft folder)
And disabled the Update service under > services.msc (not sure if that was necessary, I really don't like messing around with it, but I just really, really, really don't want this update until they sorted out the issues with it).
Of course... I'm already hearing the HDD, because Windows is obviously looking for its files! > search index 30% harddrive usage... Sigh
Well - idk how to test my "work" I guess restart the computer, and wait for the error messages... Or hopefully not...
This sucks so much.
Edit2: It stopped searching! That means it either found the folder or it gave up.
PS: Totally not a download is 2.1 GB btw, probably going to put it on a USB now and wrap it in tinfoil. xD
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Ok update on the update!
If someone has a similar problem - it seemed to have worked.
I tried to copy the update files to usb, but that didn't work, first it took forever, only 10kb/s...tried to copy a movie file - that was 16MB/s so it's not the usb, plus at some point it told me "error cannot copy this file", so obviously copy protection...
Ok.
Deleted the whole thing (all update files, old and new).
Went to > update / security so it would create a new "download" folder for updates (windows does this automatically as soon you go to updates).
Set my connection to metered under > network settings
Set windows updates to > disable under > services.msc (setting this to manual will not work, tested that)
Restarted the laptop = the restart and update option under > power is gone!
In > update / security it tells me "Good news we're about to 🤬 up your computer! :-) :-) :-)" (I might be mis remembering the exact wording...) instead of " Update ready to install, restart your computer now!".
So, yes deleting the > Download folder under > Software Distribution works to defer a Microsoft Windows 10 feature update you just have to also disable automatic updates and or set your connection to metered (haven't tested what happens if I restart the update service yet).
And my harddrive is dead silent again as it should.
If someone has a similar problem - it seemed to have worked.
I tried to copy the update files to usb, but that didn't work, first it took forever, only 10kb/s...tried to copy a movie file - that was 16MB/s so it's not the usb, plus at some point it told me "error cannot copy this file", so obviously copy protection...
Ok.
Deleted the whole thing (all update files, old and new).
Went to > update / security so it would create a new "download" folder for updates (windows does this automatically as soon you go to updates).
Set my connection to metered under > network settings
Set windows updates to > disable under > services.msc (setting this to manual will not work, tested that)
Restarted the laptop = the restart and update option under > power is gone!
In > update / security it tells me "Good news we're about to 🤬 up your computer! :-) :-) :-)" (I might be mis remembering the exact wording...) instead of " Update ready to install, restart your computer now!".
So, yes deleting the > Download folder under > Software Distribution works to defer a Microsoft Windows 10 feature update you just have to also disable automatic updates and or set your connection to metered (haven't tested what happens if I restart the update service yet).
And my harddrive is dead silent again as it should.
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Ok update on the update!
If someone has a similar problem - it seemed to have worked.
I tried to copy the update files to usb, but that didn't work, first it took forever, only 10kb/s...tried to copy a movie file - that was 16MB/s so it's not the usb, plus at some point it told me "error cannot copy this file", so obviously copy protection...
Ok.
Deleted the whole thing (all update files, old and new).
Went to > update / security so it would create a new "download" folder for updates (windows does this automatically as soon you go to updates).
Set my connection to metered under > network settings
Set windows updates to > disable under > services.msc (setting this to manual will not work, tested that)
Restarted the laptop = the restart and update option under > power is gone!
In > update / security it tells me "Good news we're about to 🤬 up your computer! :-) :-) :-)" (I might be mis remembering the exact wording...) instead of " Update ready to install, restart your computer now!".
So, yes deleting the > Download folder under > Software Distribution works to defer a Microsoft Windows 10 feature update you just have to also disable automatic updates and or set your connection to metered (haven't tested what happens if I restart the update service yet).
And my harddrive is dead silent again as it should.
So you can send all updates to a USB or does it just not update?
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No, I tried that, it didn't work, I suppose some sort of copy protection.
What I ended up doing was deleting the update files with Mcafee shredder option - which took ridiculously long even though it was set to quick shred.
I don't think this step is necessarily at all, it should be sufficient to rename the folder and move it somewhere else, I just wanted to make sure windows absolutely can't access these files.
It's still working btw, just don't forget to disable the update service and set your connection to metered.
Disabling the update service should be enough btw - but you have to check this regularly because windows tends to just overwrite this setting "randomly".
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Yeah, I mean - that works. But for how long?
The moment it detects "issues" it'll force a restart and - boom "installing update, please don't turn off the system "
"Please wait..."
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Manual is the setting to activate on demand, since windows components want to check for updates, it will start.
This can be fixed by taking ownership of the reg key for that service setting, if it is not owned by "System" it cant revert settings since the system service cant get permission to write.
You just need to make sure "System" has read permission,
But messing with the registry has its issues and I have not done this sort of thing on Win10, but the service settings are stored in the registry and if you take ownership of the key where the windows service is you can prevent it from reverting.
And when windows needs to update the windows updater program it might run into issues since it cant write into that registry key, and commands like SFC /scannow might also have issues too.
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Mcafee shredder was my favourite thing about Mcafee other than that it affected the way Steam worked and some games wouldn't work.
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Ah, interesting I didn't know that, makes sense and yeah, I rather not screw with the registry.
I'll just keep an eye on both settings (update service and metered connection) and in case it still somehow manages to download an update, delete it again...
I don't see any issues yet, except it downloaded the Web advisor twice already now and I don't want it, and that also uses up a lot of ram so it slows the system down.
The previous version of Mcafee was a lot better in pretty much every way but they updated it, what can you do...
I really need to figure out how to stop it from downloading the Mcafee Web advisor though...
It seems like a completely dumb, unnecessary and possibly malicious program anyways.
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