WRC 8: General Discussion (Release: september 2019)
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The career mode team management and tech tree look great. The level of immersion reminds me of the recent F1 series games, which is a good thing. The test area is a huge treat, with a decent number of roads and varying surfaces. I haven't delved deeply into the career mode yet because I've just spent a while hooning around the test area. I'm glad they added DirtFish to DR2.0, but the WRC8 test area is much larger and offers a wider variety of challenges.
The physics are definitely a step forward from WRC7, but could still stand improvement. The handling at very low speeds still exhibits the same vagueness as WRC7; the car gets into a condition where throttle position and degree of wheelspin seem to have no effect and the car just has sort of a mushy hovercraft feeling until the speed picks up a little bit again. It's not as bad as WRC7 but it's still similar. Also, I test drove the Alpine A110, and while it handles great and is easy to drive, I had absolutely no feeling that it's a rear-engined car. The back end should want to carry on straight if you're too aggressive on initial turn-in, but instead it exhibits an almost DiRT4-like level of rear-end grip. You almost have to use the handbrake to get it loose at all. Maybe the default setup is just overly conservative; I'll have to play with it and I'll update my opinion if warranted. The current-generation WRC cars seem pretty good (which they should, since they're the main focus of the game). Initial turn-in is sharp to the point of almost being twitchy, which makes sense due to the level of downforce they have. Then, once you get the car sideways a bit, the aero effect dissipates, which also makes sense. In general the WRC cars move around about how you'd expect them to, based on what I've seen from real onboard footage. All things considered, I wouldn't say the driving experience is better than DR2.0, but it's at least in the same category.
The physics are definitely a step forward from WRC7, but could still stand improvement. The handling at very low speeds still exhibits the same vagueness as WRC7; the car gets into a condition where throttle position and degree of wheelspin seem to have no effect and the car just has sort of a mushy hovercraft feeling until the speed picks up a little bit again. It's not as bad as WRC7 but it's still similar. Also, I test drove the Alpine A110, and while it handles great and is easy to drive, I had absolutely no feeling that it's a rear-engined car. The back end should want to carry on straight if you're too aggressive on initial turn-in, but instead it exhibits an almost DiRT4-like level of rear-end grip. You almost have to use the handbrake to get it loose at all. Maybe the default setup is just overly conservative; I'll have to play with it and I'll update my opinion if warranted. The current-generation WRC cars seem pretty good (which they should, since they're the main focus of the game). Initial turn-in is sharp to the point of almost being twitchy, which makes sense due to the level of downforce they have. Then, once you get the car sideways a bit, the aero effect dissipates, which also makes sense. In general the WRC cars move around about how you'd expect them to, based on what I've seen from real onboard footage. All things considered, I wouldn't say the driving experience is better than DR2.0, but it's at least in the same category.
That really should at least be an option, since real WRC events run each stage twice except the occasional Super Special. I'm sure some players wouldn't care for the repetition, so they could take a cue from other racing games like the F1 series and include an option for event length (like Full, 50%, 25%).
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Ended up doing a full junior WRC season without even realising it.
Very, very impressed. After a shocker in France, I just managed to eek over the line to take the championship on the final stage. Wales is even more terrifying when there's a championship on the line!
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Got the game. T300 on PS4 doesn't work well at the moment, i really struggle on having a feel of the car.
I completed the First 2 trainings (Gold at medium) and the Extreme event (completed). Rally sweden now.. barely any feeling, straight in the "barriers" at every braking or jump landing. At the moment no feeling at all.
I completed the First 2 trainings (Gold at medium) and the Extreme event (completed). Rally sweden now.. barely any feeling, straight in the "barriers" at every braking or jump landing. At the moment no feeling at all.
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Think about where you are. You're doing a snow and ice rally. FFB, if done correctly, is pretty much all about the tyre and road surface interface, or friction basically. There's not much friction between the tyre and the road surface when you're on snow and ice, hence you don't feel much, even with snow tyres.
Having driven real cars in real snow and ice conditions I can tell you that the wheel goes very light, and there's very little information transmitted back.
The next rally you'll get is a tarmac rally and then you'll start feeling a lot more through the wheel.
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Ended up doing a full junior WRC season without even realizing it.
After a shocker in France, I just managed to eek over the line to take the championship on the final stage. Wales is even more terrifying when there's a championship on the line!
What's with the +7 and +8 extra points in Sweden and Finland? It seems they messed up how many power stage points people can get. Or are there other points available in WRC that I wasn't aware of?
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In the JWRC specifically, a point is also awarded for each stage win.
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Thanks, I only watch the WRC via the Red Bull TV recaps and highlights so I'm not 100% familiar with all the rules.
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It's kind of a weird system, since they only have the stage-win point in the JWRC, not WRC2 or WRC.
The Red Bull TV coverage is actually pretty good given the constraints of its format and air time. The only thing I don't care for is how much time they sometimes spend on recapping previous events and chatting with various people before they get to the action. Even so, it's a good way to get some WRC action if you don't feel like paying for the official streaming service.
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Could anyone help with t300 settings on ps4?
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What's your issue? I have a T300RS myself so if you want me to paste my settings here I could. Would have to be a bit later though as it's late where I am lol
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The feeling isn't that good and can't find any settings on the net
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Now that I've spent some more time playing this, I have to say that the more I play it, the less impressed I am with the physics & handling. The RWD cars are extremely reluctant to give any on-throttle oversteer. It's actually worse than DiRT 4 in that regard. It's also worse than KT's own, much more arcade-style, V-Rally 4. The FWD cars are able to somehow produce an excessive amount of wheelspin, like driving for a hundred yards or more while producing continuous, steady-state wheelspin like a dragster doing a burnout, yet they don't always plunge into massive understeer when wheelspin occurs. It's apparent that the physics simulation is built entirely for the AWD cars, but it completely falls apart when dealing with anything 2WD. The R5 and WRC cars still seem pretty decent, although the low-speed vague hovercraft feeling is still present as it was in previous WRC titles. Also, the car setup is missing some options, like toe angle, that I often use to fine-tune the balance of a car.
WRC8 still has a lot going for it. The career mode is the best in any racing game outside of the F1 series. The stage design is excellent and very true-to-life. The weather effects are cool. And the attraction of driving the current-generation WRC cars makes it worth buying for them alone. But the physics are not up to the task of simulating anything other than modern AWD cars. DR2.0 is a better simulation, while WRC8 is a better game, and both deserve their place in my gaming library.
WRC8 still has a lot going for it. The career mode is the best in any racing game outside of the F1 series. The stage design is excellent and very true-to-life. The weather effects are cool. And the attraction of driving the current-generation WRC cars makes it worth buying for them alone. But the physics are not up to the task of simulating anything other than modern AWD cars. DR2.0 is a better simulation, while WRC8 is a better game, and both deserve their place in my gaming library.
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i started my career in junior WRC but i am almost unable to put a clear run on any stage. Any damn bump and i am out of the track. No feel of the weight, nothing. Really i suck.
Reset and started WRC 2 privatee and win Montecarlo straight away at medium difficulty. Bah...
I will try again with junior cause i can't be so bad.
Reset and started WRC 2 privatee and win Montecarlo straight away at medium difficulty. Bah...
I will try again with junior cause i can't be so bad.
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Bought the game for PC and I must say that it was worth the hassle to get it from the Epic Store. I have been loving the new open test area they added, its huge!
Pardon my crappy driving, still getting used to the physics
Pardon my crappy driving, still getting used to the physics
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Damn... finally i was able to complete sweden (4th at medium) and went to corsica which was super Easy and got first with 44sec advantage. However i always feel like i do not have any control of the car.
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I've been reading through this thread and it's amazing how peoples views on rally titles differ so much.
I've been running several rally titles back to back today, and I've got to say that while the handling is more or less similar over all of them, none of them give me the same feeling of utter teeth smashing, bone breaking, spine crushing violence that rally driving is other than WRC 8 when using a wheel.
Yes, they are all sims to one degree or another, some are a bit more arcadey, DR 2 and V-Rally for instance, and some are a bit more more sim, DR 1 and SLRE for example, but there's not much in it.
With that in mind WRC 8 is now my go to rally sim, except when I want VR and then it's DR 1.
I've been running several rally titles back to back today, and I've got to say that while the handling is more or less similar over all of them, none of them give me the same feeling of utter teeth smashing, bone breaking, spine crushing violence that rally driving is other than WRC 8 when using a wheel.
Yes, they are all sims to one degree or another, some are a bit more arcadey, DR 2 and V-Rally for instance, and some are a bit more more sim, DR 1 and SLRE for example, but there's not much in it.
With that in mind WRC 8 is now my go to rally sim, except when I want VR and then it's DR 1.
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KT has done an absolute fantastic job on those new Monaco stages. They are utterly smashing! Went with WRC2 on the epic stage in the career. The change of weather, the grip on surface with rain and snow. The sheer variation on the track itself. Man wow, just wow! That handbrake works so great and the way you can slide through those tight corners, such a satisfying feeling. I am sincerely impressed 
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I started playing today JWRC hard difficulty but not Perma damage as it stated that you only get one restart ? Is that from a fatal crash ? Didn't want that to interfere with the 4 restarts, perhaps I'm reading it wrong. Well I'm regretting the hard difficulty , I've completed 2 rallies, Sweden & Corsica, I'm currently 5th overall, I'm struggling. That aside In loving this game, it's even better than I hoped for, the graphics and stage atmosphere on Corsica blew me away, it was mostly windy & raining, the surface water on the road looks incredible, but those pesky puddles, so much aqua plaining, so difficult ! I can see myself playing this game for a long time, KT have done an amazing job.
, I've completed 2 rallies, Sweden & Corsica, I'm currently 5th overall, I'm struggling. That aside In loving this game, it's even better than I hoped for, the graphics and stage atmosphere on Corsica blew me away, it was mostly windy & raining, the surface water on the road looks incredible, but those pesky puddles, so much aqua plaining, so difficult ! I can see myself playing this game for a long time, KT have done an amazing job.
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Permacrash gives you zero restarts..it’s terrifying.I started playing today JWRC hard difficulty but not Perma damage as it stated that you only get one restart ? Is that from a fatal crash ? Didn't want that to interfere with the 4 restarts, perhaps I'm reading it wrong. Well I'm regretting the hard difficulty
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The A110 at Portugal with dynamic weather set to clear then storm is quite simply breathtaking, I think Scaff mentioned how awesome the A110 is and wow he wasn't wrong there.
What I do find strange are the turbo sounds, crackle and backfire are not present in cockpit view now I'm aware that due to the drivers wearing headgear most of it will be muffled but surely the backfires would still be heard, the audio is excellent there's no denying that I'm just wondering if the levels are way too low in cockpit.
What I do find strange are the turbo sounds, crackle and backfire are not present in cockpit view now I'm aware that due to the drivers wearing headgear most of it will be muffled but surely the backfires would still be heard, the audio is excellent there's no denying that I'm just wondering if the levels are way too low in cockpit.
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I was into it until you put DR2 in an arcade box with V-Rally DR2 is way ahead of DR1 on almost every level. WRC8 is good but is behind the Dirt games and SLRE because it still has some very odd things inside it's physics system that ultimately stop it from being up there with the best of them. It's very close but it's not on the level of those 3.
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