X1 Prototype- WOW!
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I was thinking something along those lines griffith but we wont find out untill we get GT in the ps3 
lol, It does beg the question though as to weather the LMP cars would be as fast or not on La Sarth
lol, It does beg the question though as to weather the LMP cars would be as fast or not on La Sarth
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@ analog: I think my half-track idea is probably flawed also.Although, I think it had been done before, more successfully, but perhaps not in a competition.
Trial and error is more fun than coldly calculating all flaws beforehand though
, half-tracks were quite succesful for military purposes I reckon.Not sure competitively though, unless they raced each other towards the Polish border....
Having said that, could come handy in the snow.
( although strictly speaking these aren't half-tracks I suppose ).
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A snow mobile is a half track trike in my opinion so if we did get bikes in GT5 then id say a snow mobile could maybe be added, Maybe im looking too far outside the box on that front though
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Is that Seattle Short?? Weird video, by the way.
Also, with the introduction of a CVT, what are it's pre-fixed ratios? Will it be manually shiftable? So many questions.
Also, with the introduction of a CVT, what are it's pre-fixed ratios? Will it be manually shiftable? So many questions.
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I hoped they gave this brief to more than just Newey.
I reckon it would've been interesting to see what other design teams would've come up with.
At the very least they should've given the specs to others, then we could've had other concepts to race against... Ferrari, McLaren, Peugeot, Renault, Audi are a few that could've offered something... some may've looked better... or worse...
I reckon it would've been interesting to see what other design teams would've come up with.
At the very least they should've given the specs to others, then we could've had other concepts to race against... Ferrari, McLaren, Peugeot, Renault, Audi are a few that could've offered something... some may've looked better... or worse...
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What in the world is that thing?
It's the best handling, but not fastest car in Ridge Racer Type 4.
It looks like it's based on the Nobel 200, but there's a lot of similar looking three wheeled bubble cars from the 50s and 60s.
GT could do with more 3 wheelers.
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there are a lot of X1 driving arround here. right in front of my window.
...BMW X1
...BMW X1
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CVT has one gear, with a range from 0-400kmh, no shifting is needed because there are no cogs in the transmission system (apart from connecting to a differential. The best way to imagine a Constantly Variable Transmission is to think of an elastic band wrapped around a pulley at one end, and a cone at the other. As the car accelerates, the ECU moves the cone and the elastic band up and down to keep the engine at the point where peak power occurs. For instance, if max power is 16,000 revs, the cone will move back and forth to keep the engine revving at 16,000, regardless of the speed travelling.
X-1 looks awesome. If there was ever going to be a rival championship tp F1, this is the way it should go, except with similar speed/power output to current F1 cars to keep it all nice and safe.
Got me thinking about other concept cars too. Kaz should get the Deltawing Indycar Concept in there. Now that was radical looking!
Got me thinking about other concept cars too. Kaz should get the Deltawing Indycar Concept in there. Now that was radical looking!
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At the end this might be likely to be in GT5:
That car can win at Lemans before GT5 comes out
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Unleashing the Dream: X1 Prototype Project Unveiled
Real World Technologies Deliver Unreal Performance
Gran Turismo and Red Bull Present the Ultimate Race Car:
The Red Bull X1 Manufactured by Gran Turismo 

London, 28th October: Sony Computer Entertainment today revealed details of a fantasy racing car built using very real technologies. The X1 Prototype is the answer to the ‘What if’ dream of a world where racing car design is no longer limited by regulation. Forged by Polyphony Digital, working with world-class racing car constructor Red Bull Racing and aerodynamics expert and racing car design genius Adrian Newey, the result goes far beyond the startling new look. If the performance of test driver Sebastian Vettel in a shakedown run at the Suzuka Circuit is to be believed, the driving experience, available exclusively through Gran Turismo®5 on PlayStation®3, will be unbeatable.
As with all design masterpieces, the Red Bull X1 has been through several iterations. The starting point was a low drag single seat wing car with a glass canopy and covered wheels, powered by a forced induction engine. The result was a startling set of figures; 1,483hp at 15,000rpm, a top speed of 400kmh and up to 6G of lateral G-force. However under the expert eye of Newey and driven by his passion to realise the dream, the initial concept then took a big step forward. He proposed the use of ‘Fan Car’ technology - last seen and rapidly banned from F1 in the late 70s - where a fan is used to force air out from underneath the car, lowering the air pressure creating a huge amount of downforce.
A redesign of the car showed its value on the track where traditional low speed corners could be taken at significantly higher speeds. The new figures showed a maximum lateral G force exceeding 8G, pushing the limits for the human body, and a top speed of more than 450kmh. The killer combination of low air resistance due to body styling, glass canopies and full tire cowlings; increased low speed down-force courtesy of the fans; and stability at high speed due to front and rear wings and rear diffuser, are what brought about this result.
For a nervous design team the last stage of the journey was the shakedown test. Enter Sebastian Vettel who, on his first run, slashed more than 20 seconds off the course record on the Suzuka Circuit.
As Adrian Newey, Chief Technical Officer of Red Bull Racing puts it: “The results were thrilling. X1 is about evolution. Delivering the optimum combination of tested technologies in a single integrated design. This would be the future of racing were we not bound by regulations, but one that is achievable today. And as Sebastian has shown, it is about devastating speed coupled with real handling control. Today thanks to PlayStation®3 and Gran Turismo we can test drive the future.”
Kazunori Yamauchi, President, Polyphony Digital Inc and creator of the Gran Turismo series commented: “X1 sees the marriage of virtual and real worlds as we explore the boundaries of our technology and aesthetic senses. The X1 Prototype Project has been motivated by curiosity and passion, powerful forces that brought together the best the world has to offer in design, physics simulation, racing car product technology and driving.”
Welcome to the personification of the Dream for Speed, to the marriage of imagination, of expertise and of technology. Welcome to a unique combination of Gran Turismo and Red Bull realised in the X1 Prototype Project.
Gran Turismo 5 will contain more than 1000 perfectly recreated cars ranging from the latest supercars to the cars of NASCAR and WRC. Standing proud will be the fastest car in the game - and one of the fastest to ever leave the drawing board - the Red Bull X1. Earn your chance to drive the Red Bull X1 when Gran Turismo 5 goes on sale later this year.
"X1 Prototype" Technical Specifications
<Dimensions>
Length: 4.75m
Width: 2.18m
Height: 0.98m
Wheelbase: 2.9m
Front Tread: 1.85m
Rear Tread: 1.78m
<Vehicle Weight>
Dry Weight: 545kg
Wet (gross) Weight: 615kg
<Engine>
3000cc V6 Twin Turbo Engine　(Direct Injection)
Maximum Output: 1106.0kw(1503.8ps)／15000rpm *1483hp
Maximum Torque: 714.1Nm(72.9kgf*m)／12000rpm
<Suspension>
Full Active Ride Suspension
<Downforce generated at the bottom by the Fan>
Maximum output 9800N(1000kgf), equal to 1.63G
<Downforce acting at vehicle speed squared due to the wings/Venturi Effect>
At 100km/h: 1044.7N, (106.6kgf) equal to 0.17G
At 200km/h: 4181.7N, (426.7kgf) equal to 0.69G
At 300km/h: 9412.9N, (960.5kgf) equal to 1.56G
At 400km/h: 16732.5N, (1707.4kgf) equal to 2.78G
Test Calculation: Cornering G at 300km/h
Total tire load: Equivalent to 4.19G (=Gravity 1.00G+downforce due to fan 1.63G+downforce due to wing 1.56G)
Coefficient of Friction of Tires: μ=1.97 (baseμ=2.16, model calculates a efficiency reduction to 91.5% under high load)
Cornering G that can be exhibited by tires: 8.25G (4.19 * 1.97)
*Specs in consideration for correspondence with diagram
Test Calculation: Cornering G at 300km/h
Total Tire Load: 2575.6kgf (Front Wheel 1142.7kgf+Rear Wheel 1432.9kgf)
Coefficient of Friction of Tires: μ=1.97 (baseμ=2.16, model calculates
an efficiency reduction to 91.5% under high load)
Cornering force that can be exhibited by tires: 5073.9kgf
Cornering G: 8.25G (= 5073.9kgf / 615kg)
<Performance Data>
0-60mph: 1.4sec
0-120mph: 2.8sec
0-200mph: 6.1sec
Maximum Speed: Over 280mph (450km/h)
Maximum Longitudinal or Lateral Acceleration at 300km/h: 8.25G
All assets and first official video at:
http://eu.gran-turismo.com/gb/news/d14918.html
Real World Technologies Deliver Unreal Performance
Gran Turismo and Red Bull Present the Ultimate Race Car:
The Red Bull X1 Manufactured by Gran Turismo 

London, 28th October: Sony Computer Entertainment today revealed details of a fantasy racing car built using very real technologies. The X1 Prototype is the answer to the ‘What if’ dream of a world where racing car design is no longer limited by regulation. Forged by Polyphony Digital, working with world-class racing car constructor Red Bull Racing and aerodynamics expert and racing car design genius Adrian Newey, the result goes far beyond the startling new look. If the performance of test driver Sebastian Vettel in a shakedown run at the Suzuka Circuit is to be believed, the driving experience, available exclusively through Gran Turismo®5 on PlayStation®3, will be unbeatable.
As with all design masterpieces, the Red Bull X1 has been through several iterations. The starting point was a low drag single seat wing car with a glass canopy and covered wheels, powered by a forced induction engine. The result was a startling set of figures; 1,483hp at 15,000rpm, a top speed of 400kmh and up to 6G of lateral G-force. However under the expert eye of Newey and driven by his passion to realise the dream, the initial concept then took a big step forward. He proposed the use of ‘Fan Car’ technology - last seen and rapidly banned from F1 in the late 70s - where a fan is used to force air out from underneath the car, lowering the air pressure creating a huge amount of downforce.
A redesign of the car showed its value on the track where traditional low speed corners could be taken at significantly higher speeds. The new figures showed a maximum lateral G force exceeding 8G, pushing the limits for the human body, and a top speed of more than 450kmh. The killer combination of low air resistance due to body styling, glass canopies and full tire cowlings; increased low speed down-force courtesy of the fans; and stability at high speed due to front and rear wings and rear diffuser, are what brought about this result.
For a nervous design team the last stage of the journey was the shakedown test. Enter Sebastian Vettel who, on his first run, slashed more than 20 seconds off the course record on the Suzuka Circuit.
As Adrian Newey, Chief Technical Officer of Red Bull Racing puts it: “The results were thrilling. X1 is about evolution. Delivering the optimum combination of tested technologies in a single integrated design. This would be the future of racing were we not bound by regulations, but one that is achievable today. And as Sebastian has shown, it is about devastating speed coupled with real handling control. Today thanks to PlayStation®3 and Gran Turismo we can test drive the future.”
Kazunori Yamauchi, President, Polyphony Digital Inc and creator of the Gran Turismo series commented: “X1 sees the marriage of virtual and real worlds as we explore the boundaries of our technology and aesthetic senses. The X1 Prototype Project has been motivated by curiosity and passion, powerful forces that brought together the best the world has to offer in design, physics simulation, racing car product technology and driving.”
Welcome to the personification of the Dream for Speed, to the marriage of imagination, of expertise and of technology. Welcome to a unique combination of Gran Turismo and Red Bull realised in the X1 Prototype Project.
Gran Turismo 5 will contain more than 1000 perfectly recreated cars ranging from the latest supercars to the cars of NASCAR and WRC. Standing proud will be the fastest car in the game - and one of the fastest to ever leave the drawing board - the Red Bull X1. Earn your chance to drive the Red Bull X1 when Gran Turismo 5 goes on sale later this year.
"X1 Prototype" Technical Specifications
<Dimensions>
Length: 4.75m
Width: 2.18m
Height: 0.98m
Wheelbase: 2.9m
Front Tread: 1.85m
Rear Tread: 1.78m
<Vehicle Weight>
Dry Weight: 545kg
Wet (gross) Weight: 615kg
<Engine>
3000cc V6 Twin Turbo Engine　(Direct Injection)
Maximum Output: 1106.0kw(1503.8ps)／15000rpm *1483hp
Maximum Torque: 714.1Nm(72.9kgf*m)／12000rpm
<Suspension>
Full Active Ride Suspension
<Downforce generated at the bottom by the Fan>
Maximum output 9800N(1000kgf), equal to 1.63G
<Downforce acting at vehicle speed squared due to the wings/Venturi Effect>
At 100km/h: 1044.7N, (106.6kgf) equal to 0.17G
At 200km/h: 4181.7N, (426.7kgf) equal to 0.69G
At 300km/h: 9412.9N, (960.5kgf) equal to 1.56G
At 400km/h: 16732.5N, (1707.4kgf) equal to 2.78G
Test Calculation: Cornering G at 300km/h
Total tire load: Equivalent to 4.19G (=Gravity 1.00G+downforce due to fan 1.63G+downforce due to wing 1.56G)
Coefficient of Friction of Tires: μ=1.97 (baseμ=2.16, model calculates a efficiency reduction to 91.5% under high load)
Cornering G that can be exhibited by tires: 8.25G (4.19 * 1.97)
*Specs in consideration for correspondence with diagram
Test Calculation: Cornering G at 300km/h
Total Tire Load: 2575.6kgf (Front Wheel 1142.7kgf+Rear Wheel 1432.9kgf)
Coefficient of Friction of Tires: μ=1.97 (baseμ=2.16, model calculates
an efficiency reduction to 91.5% under high load)
Cornering force that can be exhibited by tires: 5073.9kgf
Cornering G: 8.25G (= 5073.9kgf / 615kg)
<Performance Data>
0-60mph: 1.4sec
0-120mph: 2.8sec
0-200mph: 6.1sec
Maximum Speed: Over 280mph (450km/h)
Maximum Longitudinal or Lateral Acceleration at 300km/h: 8.25G
All assets and first official video at:
http://eu.gran-turismo.com/gb/news/d14918.html
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Time to dissect that video!
When Vettel is at the track selection screen, there's 2 selections of the 2005 Circuit de la Sarthe, but there's also a selection just before it. I believe we will have more than 2 layouts (not counting reverse) for Circuit de la Sarthe!
Immediately after that, we see multiple layouts for the GP course at Nurburgring.
Watching the last lap at the end of the video, it just seems like it's cheating, haha. So fast!!
F1 record time at Nurburgring GP: 1:29.468
The X1: 1:04.853
When Vettel is at the track selection screen, there's 2 selections of the 2005 Circuit de la Sarthe, but there's also a selection just before it. I believe we will have more than 2 layouts (not counting reverse) for Circuit de la Sarthe!
Immediately after that, we see multiple layouts for the GP course at Nurburgring.
Watching the last lap at the end of the video, it just seems like it's cheating, haha. So fast!!
F1 record time at Nurburgring GP: 1:29.468
The X1: 1:04.853
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It's a shame they switched the turbine and CVT, but 4-stroke reving up and down and shifting is a more enjoyable experience for me personnaly, a jet engine at a constant RPM isn't as exciting to hear.
