X1 Prototype- WOW!

It's a combination of the Cd vs. engine power. With 1500hp, this thing will overcome drag alot better than other cars. If Cd was the ONLY factor, other cars and planes would not be able to go as fast as they have.

Of course that is true, I just think that at those speeds the drag is so high that it is much more difficult to go even faster, and then there is also rolling resistance from the tires. For example I dont think the Veyron or commercial airplanes have so much of a high resistance to wind because they dont need as much downfocre or "upforce" (if I can use that word)
 
So I’m thinking not all the power is transmitted too the wheels but from the trust of the turbine that makes it possible to accelarate that fast. I’d hate to be behind that car on the starting grid since it will just blow my car backwards with all the trust exaust of the turbine engine. hehe!
 
So I’m thinking not all the power is transmitted too the wheels but from the trust of the turbine that makes it possible to accelarate that fast. I’d hate to be behind that car on the starting grid since it will just blow my car backwards with all the trust exaust of the turbine engine. hehe!

Definitely not. The car would have terrible cornering (and would need a rudder).
 
i just dont understand what top speed has to do with anything with this car. im sure it cna get to 249 easily. the veryone takes MILES to get to 260 and even then its not supposed to be going the fast. you will never get the veryone to 260 on any real race track. it doesnt on the ring.

I'll agree that the topspeed isn't actually very relevant on this car, in fact it probably won't be the car in GT5 with the highest topspeed anyway if this car isn't possible to tune any further or the transmission can't be altered much ( which could very well be the case I reckon ).
In GT4 I reached topspeeds of well over 400km/h in some Group C monsters or other racing cars ( even some roadcars were capable of that ) on the Mulsanne straight without the 2 chicanes ( which were introduced to actually prevent cars from going over 400km/h, which they did, in real life due to safety reasons ) or the Test Course and I guess this can also be achieved in GT5.
I actually like the fact its performance isn't outclassing every other car in each aspect ( despite being a relatively trivial element like topspeed ) and its true value and purpose being indeed about cornering through massive grip and fierce acceleration amongst other things.
 
It looks like something youd find in an arcade racer like wipeout or fzero.

because as you go faster, you will look more and more like the machines of the future...

^^ Best. Post. Ever

But on another note, this is another aerodynamist said:

"Amazed someone like Newey can't get away from the basic F1 archetype. Looks draggy, and with 1483 hp available it should go way faster than 249, which seems to confirm the suspicion as I suspect they at least ran some rudimentary figures to calculate Vmax. Why not make the roll over hoop conformal to the roof? F1 rear wing in basic execution, why not full width or even active aero with elements that conform to the body to reduce drag?"
First and foremost, that aerodynamist should go back to english class ...

Hrmm that roll over hoop does look odd now that someone's mentioned it.
That hoop is there for a reason: Safety for the pilot.
If it was flush with the body, it wouldn't provide the clearance necessary to prevent the canopy to be shattered during roll over... furthermore when the car is upside down, you certainly dont want the weight of the car resting on the canopy... how on earth would the pilot have the chance to get out of the car quicky and safely ;)


Everything on this car is there for a reason, it is the best compromise for each needs and applications... it's like a puzzle, you have to satisfy all the requirements without stepping over another: that is what engineers do, that is their constant work, to solve complex problems and be able to compromise reasonably.


I am pretty sure the X-1 will hit 249 before the Veyron. It may blow the Veyron away 0-400 and 0-1000 and every straight away on every circuit in the game. At 4200lbs the Veyron would need much more braking distance and any lead it may get will be lost under braking.

Hmm Cat an mouse will be interesting with the X-1 with cars like the SLR and F1 as the mouse :)
The mouse would be dead in an instant.

Am I the only one a little disappointed here as it seems the car could be faster if it had more aero parts such as an F duct or a few inverted aerofoils or if they started to cause too much drag make them lamina flow (moving the bulge of a wing back to create less drag although less lift or downforce its what made the P51 mustang have such good range) And what about using jets (without burning any fuel) to alter air pressure?
Also what about the middle of the two nose connections build an inverted aerofoil into the floor of the car with two slits to alow air over the top of it with a wing piece on the nose connections to channel air to it.
(thats my idea of improving the X1 at 16 never set foot in a university and im probably about to be told that im talking trash):dopey:
💡 A heavier car will not go faster by the way ...

But dont let us stop you, follow your dreams sonny.
Please do go to university...
 
Of course that is true, I just think that at those speeds the drag is so high that it is much more difficult to go even faster, and then there is also rolling resistance from the tires. For example I dont think the Veyron or commercial airplanes have so much of a high resistance to wind because they dont need as much downfocre or "upforce" (if I can use that word)

The Veyron and Veyro SS go faster, and this is both superior in power, and aerodynamics. With the right gears, there's no reason why this can't go 275mph.
 

If you havent see this please take the time to watch it
(i know there are special faster veyrons dont know the name but just watch)
The part about air risistance at high speeds i found interesting

Top Speed: 249mph

Considering the Veyron SS can do 269mph...

I was expecting more tbh.

(I know this car is not all about top speed, but still expected a lot more.)

Put other gear ratios on the X1 and i think it does more top speed than the Veyron (if the wings dont break off :P )
The Veyron is ajusted for topspeed and it is at his limit.

(would like to see a veyron beat an f1 car on a track :dunce: NOT!)
 
(would like to see a veyron beat an f1 car on a track :dunce: NOT!)

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I'm sure it could beat this :sly:
 
Maybe there are cranes in GT5 so they can lift it in the air :D

(could be useful in Monaco ;))

Wrecked cars have to go somewhere. I'd like to see stuff like that (with yellow flags on part of the track where a car's being lifted or moved away) and moving camera cranes and booms, things like that to make the environment more alive and dynamic.
 
Definitely not. The car would have terrible cornering (and would need a rudder).

Not if you have a lot of downforce and tracktion from the tires plus I suppose it wouldn't have full trust all the time and would only have full trust when in a straight line. But who knows it's a concept car.
 
That is the only reasonable explanation, but I've never heard of a car that uses a turbine in that way.

It's kind of common as far as turbines are concerned. Well I don't know if common is a good word, but it's been done many times before. Ford (I think it was them) had a turbine powered transport truck. Turbo prop airplanes work in a similar way. The turbine powers the propeller. So the prop moves the plane through the air and not the exhaust of the turbine.

Mike
 
Sort of, the car will not go up & down gears with the revs changing (because it doesn't have gears) the car will be more like the Citroen gt in prologue but without the lack of power at certain rpm, imagine the car as always being in the right gear. (cvt in a real car it's a very strange feeling and takes some getting used to ) most popular form of cvt is a moped / scooter so that should give an idea but obviously not with a 2strroke 50cc engine sound

I've got a CVT in my Jeep patriot. it was indeed very strange at first. If I accellerate from a stop to 100kph (foot on the floor) it will stay at redline until I let off. At first you anticipate the gear change but it never comes :) and it also sounds like the engine is gonna explode :) Acceleration uphill is much smoother than any auto trans car I've ever driven. It does seem to have a lot of "slip" off the line, but that might have more to do with the low power in the 2.4L than the tranny.

Mike

edit: that should have been one post, not two.
 
I really doubt it. I think Red Bull is going to be handling to media for that. They even mentioned on their website that they'll be releasing additional media for it.
 
If the Can-Am Series was still around with it's lack of rules and no budget limit i think this might be close to what we would see on track today.
 
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I can't believe people expect a car, not made to be extremely fast on straights, but to be a rocket on a track overall, to do more than 248mph. "the Veyron SS can do 269, was expecting more tbh." It's not all about top speed.
 
I think the issue will be on the shelves at the end of the week. There's a few more shots of the X1 in there that Jordan hasn't posted, check it out!
 
Why? GT5 is going to be the only way you'll ever drive the car anyway.

It has nothing to do with that. Build a real version, drive it 20 seconds faster than a F1 car on Suzuka and I will care about it, but until then, it is just a car they made up in a video game.
 
Centura and other people with the same mentality of refusal ...
... and thinking you are the GT purist ....


and that's where you are completely wrong! :)


The idea behind the X1 is analogous to this situation:

Say Kaz ask your favorite car manufacturer (insert brand here)
to build their project/concept car that they think is more probably to realize in the short future 5 to 10 years, what would that car look like.

Personnally if BMW "were given" that opportunity by Kaz and accepted,
i would love to drive their engineering ideas ahead of time,
try it in exclusivity on the PS3 before it would be made available in the showroom floor.

And this is exactly the same situation with the X1. You get to try out the reality of the near future today!

This is not to be confused with the Nike car from previous GT games.

This is more researched than that... not just pure fiction.

Please dont call yourself, dont think of yourself as a GT purist if you dont get what the X1 is supposed to be.




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It has nothing to do with that. Build a real version, drive it 20 seconds faster than a F1 car on Suzuka and I will care about it, but until then, it is just a car they made up in a video game.

And you are going to pay for that right?
Did you care about the Citroen GT?
 
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