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I thought it was Kimi's team touring McLaren?:
http://planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5692023,00.html
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I thought it was Kimi's team touring McLaren?:
http://planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5692023,00.html
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Apparently it's both of them. I wouldn't be surprised if it was orchestrated so that both Kimi's people and Brawn saw Button there.
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But you forget to see the biggest point here, all teams that beat on KERS had a horrible year. If you remember, McLaren had the worst car at the beginning of the season. The only difference is that they kept developing it, as opposed to Ferrari who had a so-so car, but had the development halted.
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There are many more examples that aren't on youtube or are part of "best overtakes" complilations or put with crash videos.
I became a fan after his Monaco 2004 start, where he barged past Schumacher off the grid, what a legend. He also caused a lot of crashes, and although it shouldn't be the main draw to the sport, it does spice things up a bit having someone willing to take risks more often.
Not to mention his hero efforts at Super Aguri.
F1 hasn't been the same without Sato, hopefully he comes back or Kobayashi succeeds him.
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Some sources are reporting Campos has signed Vitaly Petrov. However, I cannot confirm as the link to said sources requires registration and I don't trut it as a ecure website.
In other news, Lotus have confirmed that they have signed a driver, but they are being very mum as to who that driver is.
In other news, Lotus have confirmed that they have signed a driver, but they are being very mum as to who that driver is.
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Okay, new insane idea: what if Button visiting McLaren is a condition of a contract?
McLaren want Raikkonen, but he's being unreasonable. With Mercedes looking to inject a lot of cash into Brawn and sever ties with McLaren - Martin Brundle claims the decision will be announced this coming week (though Mcaren will be a Mercedes customer team) - they could easily cover Button's requested salary. As Brawn doesn't have much money to spare and Button doesn't have a contract, McLaren and Mercedes are putting them to good use until Mercedes officially joins Brawn.
So here's how it works: McLaren make a show of having Button visit their Woking facility. At or at about the same time, Raikkonen's people are also seen there. The idea is to give Raikkonen a hurry-up and make up his mind. McLaren close on a Raikkonen deal, and then Mercedes move to Brawn, who come into a lot of money; more than enough to pay Button. Ross Brawn is in on it (and could even be the mastermind given his reputation for strategy and tactics); he has to be in order to make it work. They have to engineer this perceived fall-out between Button and Brawn and then come through in the clinch.
McLaren want Raikkonen, but he's being unreasonable. With Mercedes looking to inject a lot of cash into Brawn and sever ties with McLaren - Martin Brundle claims the decision will be announced this coming week (though Mcaren will be a Mercedes customer team) - they could easily cover Button's requested salary. As Brawn doesn't have much money to spare and Button doesn't have a contract, McLaren and Mercedes are putting them to good use until Mercedes officially joins Brawn.
So here's how it works: McLaren make a show of having Button visit their Woking facility. At or at about the same time, Raikkonen's people are also seen there. The idea is to give Raikkonen a hurry-up and make up his mind. McLaren close on a Raikkonen deal, and then Mercedes move to Brawn, who come into a lot of money; more than enough to pay Button. Ross Brawn is in on it (and could even be the mastermind given his reputation for strategy and tactics); he has to be in order to make it work. They have to engineer this perceived fall-out between Button and Brawn and then come through in the clinch.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8351208.stm
No surprise but Toro Rosso confirms Buemmi.
No surprise but Toro Rosso confirms Buemmi.
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Wow, what an amazing and well thought out idea. Do you have a crystal ball in your bedroom?
You are a genuis
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Crystal ball? No.
Too much time on my hands? Probably.
The underpinning theory of my rampant speculation is that Jenson Button doesn't being anything to McLaren that they already have. They have a British driver. They have a World Champion. They have someone they can focus their team around; they're already doing it. Any driver who goes to McLaren knows that he's going to be out the outside from the beginning, unless he has a pre-existing relationship with them. Raikkonen stands a far better chance of success at McLaren than Button does.
Too much time on my hands? Probably.
The underpinning theory of my rampant speculation is that Jenson Button doesn't being anything to McLaren that they already have. They have a British driver. They have a World Champion. They have someone they can focus their team around; they're already doing it. Any driver who goes to McLaren knows that he's going to be out the outside from the beginning, unless he has a pre-existing relationship with them. Raikkonen stands a far better chance of success at McLaren than Button does.
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Hmmm Lotus has signed someone as their first driver...
It's Trulli I assume and Fairuz as their reserve and test driver. Now who's going to be on the second seat?? Kobayashi??
It's Trulli I assume and Fairuz as their reserve and test driver. Now who's going to be on the second seat?? Kobayashi??
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Lotus have said they want two experienced drivers.
Two races does not count as experience.
That said, I do hope Kobayashi gets a drive somewhere. Not because he's particularly talented - Lewis Hamilton had a much better debut - but because if he doesn't get one, the fallout is so bad that I'm going to have to disconnect my internet because I really don't want to hear it.
Two races does not count as experience.
That said, I do hope Kobayashi gets a drive somewhere. Not because he's particularly talented - Lewis Hamilton had a much better debut - but because if he doesn't get one, the fallout is so bad that I'm going to have to disconnect my internet because I really don't want to hear it.
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Well I don't think McLaren is totally indifferent to the idea of having 2 back-to-back British world champions on a british team. And McLaren wouldn't be looking out for anything but the success of the team; they'll look for someone that fits into those plans and support him accordingly, whether it's Kimi or Jenson. If it happens to be Kimi, it's because they believe he can give them the best shot at the championship now, not because of their previous relationship.
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I meant that comment in the sense that Raikkonen has a better shot at holding his own against Hamilton than Button does. Raikkonen already knows (most of) the people at McLaren, but Button is an outsider.
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Maybe because the McLaren was the fastest car on the grid in 2007 and bcause Lewis had lots of testing in the car, unlike Kobayashi in the Toyota who hadn't driven the car probably since March, if ever. He had an amazing 2 races for a rookie in a midfield car, scoring points in your 2nd F1 race, out placing your veteran team mate.
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The 2006 World Champion was also in the fastest car for 2007. Hamilton cleanly passed him in the first corner of his first race. And nor was Kobayashi completely drive-less for 2009; he's been competing in GP2, so it's not like he's stagnant. He was driving a midfield car, and finish in the midfield he did. As for Trulli, he's crashed out in Brazil and was once again his usual slow self in Abu Dhabi.
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Last time I checked the '07 Mclaren was the best car on the grid, and the '09 Toyota was a midfielder... You cannot compare Hamilton and Kobayashi, Hamilton was made for this sport, but that doesn't mean Kobayashi has a nice future to look ahead to. And please don't go back to the Alonso vs Hamilton crap, we both know Hamilton was the favoured driver, and Alonso acted like a child.
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I think Kobayashi's performance is more impressive when put into context compared to the other driver's who came into 2009 races mid-season. He made very few mistakes and was on the pace almost out of the box. With little testing and no knowledge of the two circuits he had to race on, as well as successfully battling with Button - who is currently considered one of the best overtakers.
He had some iffy racing ettiquette at Brazil but at Abu Dhabi he was fine.
If this was any other season where unlimited testing was allowed, sure his performance was expected and nothing special. But thats the point, he didn't have much testing.
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He's dangerous in an entertaining way! Not a dangerous way. Most of those accident were light nudges on the wheels and sidepods. If he was sending people in triple barrel-rolls and into the Grandstands Lotus probably wouldn't be considering employing him!
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The first two were racing incidents and he wasn't entirely to blame - he had fair reason to try both those moves.
The last one was a little too hopeful.
Not unsafe though, he isn't a terrible driver, he just isn't afraid to stick his nose in. But if you want "safe" drivers who follow each other around lap after lap, I'm sure there are at least 10 other drivers you can watch
Plus, I'd rate Sato over all 3 of those drivers.
The last one was a little too hopeful.
Not unsafe though, he isn't a terrible driver, he just isn't afraid to stick his nose in. But if you want "safe" drivers who follow each other around lap after lap, I'm sure there are at least 10 other drivers you can watch
Plus, I'd rate Sato over all 3 of those drivers.
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