Your thoughts about "standard" vs. "premium"
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gtracedriver
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So PD are presumably putting both the Premium and the standard versions of the same cars in the game? Wow, that's worse than even I imagined they would stoop to.
That does not make sense they will get that fixed before the game is released.
I want to know about standard cars. If they are going to race only other standard cars and do not have those amazing details like premium. Then they should be able to include more than 16 cars in the race. Although in demo they are showing 8 and few times they have shown 12 premium cars. I think 16 premium can race, judging from one of the E3 videos.
- 40,922
The car list of GT
SP made even less sense, and they still did that.Also, "get that fixed?" It seems pretty intentional to me. That is a picture from the APEX book that comes with the Special Editions. It doesn't seem likely that they would screw up the printing of that so late into the game's development cycle, and then proceed to post it up on their website anyways.
On the other hand, if the cars are separated in game, the Standard races will almost certainly have more cars in them, probably akin to the original Vision Gran Turismo trailers.
- 8,725
As much as everyone likes you, I have to say you're wrong. We already know that premium cars are the ones of true GT5 quality with incredible level of detail while standard cars are carried over from GT4/GTPSP but with updated reflections.
Premium
Standard
Even though the pictures are small, at least I can see a huge difference between the two.
They look like different scale model cars; that is, the premiums look like they are large-scale, whilst the standards are a smaller scale, so can't support the same detail
The standards are kind of cute, when you look at them like that...
They are not printed pages, rather images of pages from the book (e.g. how they would look in the design software package being used to "make" the book). They could well be preliminary, there's at least a month left to work on it before they should worry about printing and distribution.
- 8,725
Double post... 
gtracedriver
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The car list of GT
Also, "get that fixed?" It seems pretty intentional to me. That is a picture from the APEX book that comes with the Special Editions. It doesn't seem likely that they would screw up the printing of that so late into the game's development cycle, and then proceed to post it up on their website anyways.
On the other hand, if the cars are separated in game, the Standard races will almost certainly have more cars in them, probably akin to the original Vision Gran Turismo trailers.
I do not know about PSP version but we will see. It can be a mistake in the manual also. Another possibility could be if they have separate series like premiums only with premiums and standards with standards. Then the same car can be used in both series. But right now it is too early to tell
- 8,725
You're assuming it's a mistake. They've just released a chunk of the carlist. If it were me, I'd be careful to select which cars were being announced. Does Alfa's roster end with the Brera? Inclusion of the Audi A2, but no A3, A4 etc.
It could even be a "concept" image for all we know, and is a simple mock-up of how it could look, based on works in progress.
- 11,343
- Chicago, iLL
- GTP_Nismo
WHy can't one have a light interior that shows through the windows while the other just has a black interior that is hard to see?
Also, do we know that this book only shows cars from GT5 and not all the cars that ever appeared in any GT game? There's just so much conclusion jumping.
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No, I'm assuming it was intentional, and that I don't see a way that it could be a mistake.
That being said:
This is probably what it is.
- 11,343
- Chicago, iLL
- GTP_Nismo
But one is turbo while the other is NA. Those are two different cars, are they not? Would you rather have them take the NA one out and cut the count by 1?
- 8,725
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- Tennessee
One of the last people on here that I thought would say that, but I totally agree. I know that we will probably never see eye to eye on the standard vs premium debate, but that is the same thing I have said about the standard cars all along. People have jumped to the conclusion that they do not like them, without trying them first, therefore jumping to a conclusion.
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- Chicago, iLL
- GTP_Nismo
They are either tuner or RACE cars. Getting concrete info on those cars is hard enough. The tuner cars while they use the same parts, are not all exactly the same when they come out of the shop so it;s understandable. The race cars, same thing. I was looking for the info on the R10 TDI, redline, max hp/tq and I found conflicting info or no info at all.
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- Toronto
- NewAesthetic
- SlipZtrEm
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I don't like games attempting to be so realistic that they go against common sense. You also don't have the ability to simply ask the manufacturer what those stats are, which PD obviously do.
There are also several problems with that thread of logic in the first place, not the least of which being that all of that info was coded into the game anyways. They know what all of that information is (or at least have an idea of what it is), but PD just won't show it when you are looking at the car in the garage. That idea is even more absurd when applied to the fact that a large portion of the no info cars are for race cars that PD made up for the game.
GT1-GT3 all showed the car info in the garage based on what the game said the car had. Then GT4 comes along and starts arbitrarily removing car stats from various in game cars for no reason whatsoever, including from several cars that had such stats in GT3. Even more insulting is when many of those no-info cars were included in GTPSP, and all of the relevant info was stated in the car info screen, but not on the stats page.
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- SoCal
- GTP_MooCow
- 8,725
- 4,754
- SoCal
- GTP_MooCow
C'mon guys... (but thanks for the break!)
I really did try!... i guess i looked into the wrong threads.... everywhere .... except this one.
It does look like there are two DB9... oh well...
one without Tinted Windows, and one without Cockpit...
... at least you have the choice.
I really did try!... i guess i looked into the wrong threads.... everywhere .... except this one.
It does look like there are two DB9... oh well...
one without Tinted Windows, and one without Cockpit...
... at least you have the choice.
- 27,387
- Toronto
- NewAesthetic
- SlipZtrEm
The choice would be handy... if there were any actual differences between the two. I'm not at home, but I'm pretty sure the '06 has most, if not all, the paint options the '03 has.
It'll be interesting how they're handled, if PD places a price "Premium" on, er, Premiums. Or if the '03 will just be available in used lots for less. Because seeing as how all things are equal, unless a user is strapped for cash or insists on owning every single car... I can't see why they'd pick the '03.
It'll be interesting how they're handled, if PD places a price "Premium" on, er, Premiums. Or if the '03 will just be available in used lots for less. Because seeing as how all things are equal, unless a user is strapped for cash or insists on owning every single car... I can't see why they'd pick the '03.
