Your thoughts about "standard" vs. "premium"

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What would you have rather had PD do about "premium" vs. "standard" cars

  • Keep everthing the same

    Votes: 324 19.1%
  • Release the game later with all the cars "premium"

    Votes: 213 12.6%
  • Not do "premium" cars at all but focus on other features i.e. dynamic weather

    Votes: 134 7.9%
  • DLC packs after the release

    Votes: 844 49.8%
  • Wished PD didn't get are hopes up, lol

    Votes: 180 10.6%

  • Total voters
    1,695
See when people like me say anything even remotely negative, we get pounced on left and right... but where were the same people to bring this kind of rational thinking months and years ago when the forum was full of "Kazunori San wouldn't let anything but the best go out the door and so we can all be happy because I would rather way years for perfection than have a rushed half finished product"?

It's nice to sit there and say "well duh, no ones perfect now" but where were you to quell the claims when they were being made?

Kind of like everyone who was screaming we should have known premiums and standards would be what they are, well where were you when people were (for years) saying how everything in GT5 was gonna be awesome and only a God like KY could get a perfect game like GT5 was going to be done?

It seems like a lot of people like to say it when it's convenient and after the fact.... not when it's a little unpleasant but just as true.



Sorry akiraa, it was literally used to mean exactly that and often. Anytime you questioned some aspect of GT someone was likely to popup and shut you down for even thinking such a thing since KY is a perfectionist and nothing but perfection would be allowed to pass.

Dev most of the time you are negative :lol: Why quote me I never called him a perfectionist/perfect all I said it made me laugh when people say that. Dev people like you though make me laugh, but i'm not going to get into that, I just hope you race as well as you talk :lol: See you when GT5 comes out 👍 You are just to damn funny. :lol:
 
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Good news about the different levels of cars being able to race each other. I don't really care about graphics that much anyhow. Eye candy is wasted on me im afraid.
 
I hope that the Standart Cars issiue is just like the GRAN TURISMO 5 B-spec ie. JUST A JOKE by Kaz , yea even the clips . And the big secret is that . THere are no STandart Cars . Only Premium :D :D That would be awesome .






Hope i'm right...
 
I hope that the Standart Cars issiue is just like the GRAN TURISMO 5 B-spec ie. JUST A JOKE by Kaz , yea even the clips . And the big secret is that . THere are no STandart Cars . Only Premium :D :D That would be awesome .






Hope i'm right...

You can wake up now buddy. :lol:

Good news about the different levels of cars being able to race each other. I don't really care about graphics that much anyhow. Eye candy is wasted on me im afraid.

No doubt gives us a better experience allowing all the to cars race IMO, just got back from playing GT5 demo. It's so damn good man, after playing it all I care about is the driving its so addictive. Its a crime everybody can't play it.
 
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The word "perfectionist" has become forbidden word,or one mistakenly understood?,in any case If perfection is what everyone was expecting that is quite wrong,in any case the only perfection that I can find is:

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and pink floyd's Echoes,the rest is just "almost" perfect.
 
The word "perfectionist" has become forbidden word,or one mistakenly understood?,in any case If perfection is what everyone was expecting that is quite wrong,in any case the only perfection that I can find is:

milla_jovovich.jpg


and pink floyd's Echoes,the rest is just "almost" perfect.

If this website had a "like" button, I would be "liking" the hell out of this comment.
 
Dev most of the time you are negative :lol: Why quote me I never called him a perfectionist/perfect all I said it made me laugh when people say that. Dev people like you though make me laugh, but i'm not going to get into that, I just hope you race as well as you talk :lol: See you when GT5 comes out 👍 You are just to damn funny. :lol:

I quoted you because I wanted to know where was this reasonable logic when it went against the GT Defence Team? It seems the logical apporoach was quite silent when the illogical arguments are pro GT.

It's how everyone justifies anything, Dev. NFS Shift has dreadful physics issues and way off sound samples, but because the big mean cars and big loud sounds suits certain players, they deal with it. Codies' F1 2010 has a slew of issues from many gamers' reports, but the fans eat the bugs because they don't have much choice if they want a new F1 racing game. Most people had a strong dislike of Enthusia, but the core fans found something to cling to. And some of us are familiar with Forza's shortcomings, as well as Ferrari/SC Challenge.

Except for the most part fans of those games didn't spend huge amounts of time making unfounded and unlikely claims as to the level of perfection those games would achieve only to turn around and happy accept their flaws... in fact as far as I know the two biggest examples (Forza and F1) fans are and have been openly and honestly up in arms about the flaws in both games...

So you kind of prove my point by illustrating that this rationalization and acceptance need is sort of a GT centric issue.

It's called "weighing pros and cons," and for someone who juggles them in almost every post with sometimes wild abandon, surely you know better. ;)

Except it's not weighing the pros and cons, it's weight the pros ane excusing/rationalizing the cons.

Because the situation is entirely different.

It's funny, I have friend who's wife is always putting rules on him, but as soon as the tables are revered "But this is different!"... it's different because she doesn't like it or because it's happening to her now.

MS spent untold sums to hire modeling houses in some rather unusual places like Vietnam to make content for their games.

You seem to really hate Vietnam... is there supposed to be something bad about hiring out work there?

The fans justify the price paid for it. ;)

I don't know what fans you know, but most of the ones I know who have been affected aren't making excuses to be happy about it... they are just continuing to be pissed they aren't fixed.

Having buggy, mostly finished work in Forza is.

And having 80% of your cars be lower quality GT4 imports isn't?

you could take some pics yourself of bot cars in Forza 3 if you're feeling adventurous.

I only borrowed a F3 for a while and I am not a photomode guy so I never really knew much about that aspect... I see what you are saying though.

Regardless, this is just another example of how people pick and choose which flaws to grouch over.

While it's true anywhere some flaws will get accepted, as I said it seems dramatically extremem around here between the certaintly GT5 will be perfect and destroy everything else to the rationlization of some pretty big details.

I mean just imagine what would have gone down had T10 had some of the same issues?

And hopefully, this does sound sensible to you. ;)

Depends... if you are talking about just this moment, yes.

If you are talking overal, no... it seems sensible that a multimillion dollar job done by a very experienced studio would have done a better job at scaling their goals to be achievable in a reasonable time frame.
 
To funny! :lol: Slip you are good man, how is your photo thread going I wish I could join but I know nothing about taking picture. Maybe I could give you some in game credits and you could take pictures for me. :sly:

Considering the delay... it'll sit for a bit longer. The planned FAQ could probably help you learn though! Besides, when it's released I'm sure we'll race, so I'll just take pics then... but if it's possible to send credits, who am I to turn them down? :lol:

He's richer than JK Rowling.

The difference being he doesn't steal his material!

I like that Dev types fair amounts. If I wanted nothing but one-line answers, I'd just go to a chat room.
 
This is AWESOME news! Do you Premium fiends really think it would be a lot of fun to find yourselves in what would practically end up being one make races, if Premiums couldn't mix with Standards? GT3's grids bugged me after a while. I know Slip cringes a bit at the thought of one car you can pound and the doors fly off, and another just gets scratched and dented, but I think that's a small price to pay for variety.

This x10. This is great news the grids can be mixed. :D
 
this is internet so everything is free most of the times.

BTW how can you change the word "GTP fanatic" from the user name?

Click MY GT PLANET in the top right. Then EDIT YOUR DETAILS in the top left. Then first editable field should be EDIT USER TITLE.
Of course you need a certain number of posts and you need to be a member for some time.
 
Except for the most part fans of those games didn't spend huge amounts of time making unfounded and unlikely claims as to the level of perfection those games would achieve only to turn around and happy accept their flaws... in fact as far as I know the two biggest examples (Forza and F1) fans are and have been openly and honestly up in arms about the flaws in both games...


This is a lie according to some FM3 fan which is a game I have and played for months they have the best physics in the world even though you can fully gas any AWD cars and the back stays glued to the road. FM3 honestly up in arm come man please.


I don't know what fans you know, but most of the ones I know who have been affected aren't making excuses to be happy about it... they are just continuing to be pissed they aren't fixed.

I'm sorry we cant be like your friends and stay upset, I think we understand that GT5 has flaws like everything in life, but can still take the positives out of the situation In all GT5 is going to be a great game I feel sorry for you and your buddies.




And having 80% of your cars be lower quality GT4 imports isn't?

It doesn't matter Dev 200 cars is a lot of cars to drive Kaz has shown many people the capability his team has when creating cars. They look better than any other game out there period. If you want to ride the standard car issue go head buddy i don't ever see you dropping ever.



While it's true anywhere some flaws will get accepted, as I said it seems dramatically extremem around here between the certaintly GT5 will be perfect and destroy everything else to the rationlization of some pretty big details.

Again this means nothing you go talk to your Forza buddies most of feel their game is top notch and beats everything If you don't believe me got to FM.net, and i'm proud to say GT5 will destroy any console racing game out their. If you forgot this is a GT5 section, same goes with the FM forums. What do you expect.

I mean just imagine what would have gone down had T10 had some of the same issues? .

They do, Dev talk all your crap about imports from GT4 even though we have seen one small clip of them. Forza has the same problem with cars that have the same design error they had in FM1.
 
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Click MY GT PLANET in the top right. Then EDIT YOUR DETAILS in the top left. Then first editable field should be EDIT USER TITLE.
Of course you need a certain number of posts and you need to be a member for some time.

thanks it work,I'm kind of blind at this point,that what I don't really care about standards.

and AWD cars in FM3 did wheelspin,including Audis, Subarus and Lamborghinis,maybe he just play the demo.
 
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This is a lie according to some FM3 fan which is a game I have and played for months they have the best physics in the world even though you can fully gas any AWD cars and the back stays glued to the road. FM3 honestly up in arm come man please.

I think you really need to watch what you're saying.
So you're telling me that not a single fan has openly complained about FM3 or F1?
I mean, he didn't say all fans, did he? No he didn't.
Funny thing is that everyone here who complains about GT5 is almost instantly badged as a troll/not a true fan.
 
I think you really need to watch what you're saying.
So you're telling me that not a single fan has openly complained about FM3 or F1?
I mean, he didn't say all fans, did he? No he didn't.
Funny thing is that everyone here who complains about GT5 is almost instantly badged as a troll/not a true fan.

Key word big guy Some


"This is a lie according to some FM3 fan which is a game I have and played for months they have the best physics in the world even though you can fully gas any AWD cars and the back stays glued to the road. FM3 honestly up in arm come man please."

and your last sentence means nothing to me, I have never called anybody a fan-boy or a troll, Like I said before I was upset about the Standard car issue also I just got over, because I see the bigger picture but no way in hell is he going to say FM3 fan are realest when it comes to FM3 its a very few on FM.net that keep it real.


and AWD cars in FM3 did wheelspin,including Audis, Subarus and Lamborghinis,maybe he just play the demo.

No I have the game go take a Evo/ Mines GT-R and hit up MT Fujima gas it hard through all turns and see if the EVO/GTR back swings as it does in GT5P. It doesn't it stay glued to the ground as it did in FM1.
 
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Key word big guy Some


"This is a lie according to some FM3 fan which is a game I have and played for months they have the best physics in the world even though you can fully gas any AWD cars and the back stays glued to the road. FM3 honestly up in arm come man please."

and your last sentence means nothing to me, I have never called anybody a fan-boy or a troll, Like i said before i was upset about the Standard car issue also i just got over, because i see the bigger picture but no way in hell is he going to say FM3 fan are realest when it comes to Fms its a very few on FM.net that keep it real.
Then why reply to him and call him a liar when what you said backs up what he said? He said that some fans admit the faults and you said some don't. Both acknowledging the same thing.
As for the last sentence, it wasn't aimed at you, little man, it was an observation.
 
[/B]This is a lie according to some FM3 fan which is a game I have and played for months they have the best physics in the world even though you can fully gas any AWD cars and the back stays glued to the road. FM3 honestly up in arm come man please.

I am not even sure what you are saying there...

I'm sorry we cant be like your friends and stay upset, I think we understand that GT5 has flaws like everything in life, but can still take the positives out of the situation In all GT5 is going to be a great game I feel sorry for you and your buddies.

I didn't say they weren't happy with the positives of Forza, I just said they didn't blindly rationlize out the negatives. Nice try though!

As for not being able to stay angry, if you aren't unhappy you you either don't really care or you are in denial.

It doesn't matter Dev 200 cars is a lot of cars to drive Kaz has shown many people the capability his team has when creating cars.

There we go again... 200 cars is still a lot... it's not that bad!\

If you don't believe me got to FM.net,

You mean the place where the mods act like heavy handed fanboys and quell negative speach? I wouldn't be surprised if that results in nothing but happy people left...

and i'm proud to say GT5 will destroy any console racing game out their.

Why does this time machine keep getting pass around to everyone but me?

If you forgot this is a GT5 section, same goes with the FM forums. What do you expect.

Just because I expect it doesn't mean I am not going to call it out...

They do Dev talk all your crap about imports from GT4 even though we have seen one small clip of them. Forza has the same problem with cars that have the same design error they had in FM1.

Yes some of those problems do still exist.. although ironically between GT4 and GT5 is more time to fix issues than between F1 and F3 :)

And see here we go... not letting go of the problems with Forza is fine, but with GT5, we should just accept and be happy.
 
I am not even sure what you are saying there...

I think it's cause he's from Jersey. Have you not seen Jersey SHore.
It's all legit, yo.:rolleyes:

I think its fair to judge the sound when its in our PS3. 👍
It's also pretty funny the above quote, and then reading you announce GT5 as the end all racing game before we have a chance to put it in our PS3.
It's all hilarious.
 
I didn't say they weren't happy with the positives of Forza, I just said they didn't blindly rationlize out the negatives. Nice try though!

WOW again have you ever visit the FM.net before I don't think so.

As for not being able to stay angry, if you aren't unhappy you you either don't really care or you are in denial.

This is to funny, Because I can get over something which most Adults have to have this characteristic in life I'm in denial damn. I wonder what it makes you, but i cant get all into that dont wanna get into trouble with the mods. :sly:

Just because I expect it doesn't mean I am not going to call it out...

Trust me folks who know you understand this :lol:

Yes some of those problems do still exist.. although ironically between GT4 and GT5 is more time to fix issues than between F1 and F3 :)

Damn I saw that coming.

And see here we go... not letting go of the problems with Forza is fine, but with GT5, we should just accept and be happy.

Dev do you have FM3? I do so im pretty sure I have accepted the sorry physics in the game and the short comings. I have had everyone so please stop trying to play that corny game with me man. I still say FM3 is a fun game that I have enjoyed with my buddies.

@ dave Little man that is some funny stuff man. :lol:
 
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No I have the game go take a Evo/ Mines GT-R and hit up MT Fujima gas it hard through all turns and see if the EVO/GTR back swings as it does in GT5P. It doesn't it stay glued to the ground as it did in FM1.

It depends but since you can change the TCS from on/off ,if you play with TCS obviously the car will not kick its tail out,You shouldn't keep making false statements.

But I have to say that between FM1 and FM3 very little things have improved to be honest,only photoshop mode and the livery editor,and the on-line storefront,the rest is just the same.
 
King send me a friend request. Spagetti69. I'll race you up Fuji, you'll get your back end out then.
 
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