Zeta News 2.0: New VF Commodore and Chevrolet SS
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The hole point of the SS is that its the road car the Gen 6 Nascar is modeled on like the Ford and Toyota has.
For Chevy thats its only selling point.
For Chevy thats its only selling point.
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I just hope the platform isn't outdated relative to the competition. I realize the G8 was a good car but it's years old, and many people not exposed to the car itself will simply relate it to Pontiac, which of course is defunct. They might think, if the car was so good then why did they quit making it? And this one looks very similar. It feels like a patch job to me, not a relatively cohesive effort like some of GM's newest offerings.
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It is difficult to say. Despite how well-received the Pontiac was three years ago, the full-size market has mostly moved on. Although I was under the impression that the people Down Under were going to heavily revise the chassis for VF specification, I'm uncertain as to how different it'll actually be.
Be it as it may, the Zeta chassis has had few revisions since it first showed up in 2006. Furthermore, GM plans to divide and conquer their rear-drive platforms between the smaller and lighter Alpha chassis (and it's variations) and a new, larger platform that'll go beneath a Cadillac (and possibly more). I'd imagine then that this is the last hurrah for the Zeta, and it's quite unfortunate.
Anyway, this is a fantastic car. It is unapologetically American in disposition, it looks distinctively upmarket compared to it's predecessor, and narrowing down the spec sheet should make it very profitable for GM, even if it's sold in low numbers. Even if the choice of automatic-only is a bit of a disappointment, I'd imagine it handles the job quite well. And for give/take $40,000, it's a cracking good deal as well.
It does seem to line up a bit more with the Chrysler 300C SRT-8 than I had originally thought, which isn't a bad thing. It's certainly a fair bit more civilized than the Charger of similar specification. I imagine it's only a short amount of time before someone slaps a supercharger under the hood and makes it a proper M5 competitor...
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I suppose America don't get the ute but do they get the sportwagon?
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^ Nothing official just yet...
-> But I'm still hoping for a Manual Transmission for its next model year (2014)...
-> But I'm still hoping for a Manual Transmission for its next model year (2014)...
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They trademarked "El Camino" and "Nomad" recently, but they claimed it was to maintain ownership of the titles, not to re-introduce the models. If they do either of the two, it'd be the Nomad, given that the CTS Wagon will likely be going away. But it'll all depend on whether or not the SS sells well, and even then, it really all depends on whether or not GM wants another wagon stepping on the toes of their crossovers.
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^ Nomad SS / SS Nomad? Pretty catchy name IMO...hopefully El Camino SS / SS El Camino would suffice...
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ZL1-Powered Chevrolet SS could be on the horizon. I just hope they change the name to something except SS. About as dumb as LaFerrari.
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^ Hopefully, it will be called 'SS Chevelle' and will feature a 6MT not the Failmatic...
-> ...and while they're at it, how about 'SS El Camino'.
-> IMHO, I didn't like the way Holden designed the rear end...
^ I like the license plate to be on the boot/trunk like the past Commodores or should I say the G8.
-> I guess GM wants to be uniformed with its Insignia, Malibu, and Volt models...
-> ...and while they're at it, how about 'SS El Camino'.
-> IMHO, I didn't like the way Holden designed the rear end...
^ I like the license plate to be on the boot/trunk like the past Commodores or should I say the G8.
-> I guess GM wants to be uniformed with its Insignia, Malibu, and Volt models...
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^ Hopefully, it will be called 'SS Chevelle' and will feature a 6MT not the Failmatic...
-> ...and while they're at it, how about 'SS El Camino'.
All of this depends on a few things:
1) How well the SS sells in the first place. I'm guessing the 3000 or so units they want to move will go fairly quickly, and at least in the early runs, my guess will be that demand may exceed supply
2) The "Chevelle" name might get put on an SS Coupe, as current plans suggest having the Camaro go significantly downmarket in terms of size and performance. It'd leave the market wide open for a big, rear-drive car. It makes a lot of sense of the Camaro is getting to be significantly smaller.
3) While everyone's rooting for the El Camino to happen not just at GM, but also on the Internet, and in the press... The reality is that, unless they can make a case of selling 3-5,000 a year, it doesn't make sense to offer it alongside the new Colorado. But, things could change.
GM has a lot on it's plate in terms of what it is going to do in a post-Zeta world. The Alpha chassis is competitive in terms of weight and performance, and it is adaptable to a wide variety of sizes (see the new CTS). Apparently they're also working on a larger platform called Omega that would be rear or all-wheel-drive, and would serve to create a top-tier offering for Cadillac, and possibly Buick or Chevrolet. But we're still years away from that happening, I'm afraid.
Much of all of this depends on how well the CTS does, how well the SS does, and clearing the plate on other development projects. It seems that they are increasingly focused on new turbocharging applications, and after announcing plans to co-develop transmissions with Ford once again, cog counts are expected to be as high as 10 in new vehicles. All of it could happen... It's more or less a matter if the business case can be made, and someone pulls the trigger.
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The new HSV Gen-F:
http://www.caradvice.com.au/231086/hsv-gen-f-gallery/?tab=gallery
... Looks better than the E2 Series at least.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/231086/hsv-gen-f-gallery/?tab=gallery
... Looks better than the E2 Series at least.
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The Gen-F will probably form the basis of the next Vauxhall VXR8. It looks a little better than the SSV variant.
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Woah, they're using the LSA? That's pretty rad! I don't see them doing that here in the US on account of the last of the CTS-Vs, but, you never really know. I'd hope they stick to N/A V8s 'round these parts, a big-ass LS7 would do quite well under the hood. But, otherwise, that basically means that the Chevrolet SS EsseEsse will have the LSA.
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Fastest 4-door production car?
Love the rear But the front not so much hsv just don't know how to use led daylights
Love the rear But the front not so much hsv just don't know how to use led daylights
