Zyla's 1990 Acura Legend - "Jasmine"

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I hope you realise just how expensive blown head gaskets can be to fix...
I agree and I am a bit surprised you went from one beat up car to another. That head gasket alone could be $1,000 to repair or worse. Really not trying to be a downer but why keep buying cars that you know have major problems. Previous car had transmission problems and didn't last long. This car already has a head gasket issue and transmission problems. Really wish you the best of luck but sometimes its better to save a little money and get something in better condition. You stated in the other thread you are a bit ignorant at times and have learned your lesson. There was a LOT of great advice in the other thread that seems to have went in one ear and out the other. Then you get this car with major issues again? :dunce:

Best of luck. Hopefully you at least wont take this one mud running which resulted in instant death for the Subaru. :sly:
 
Okay. I know you're probably not happy reading this, and I know if people were saying this about Bruiser I'd certainly slap their faces with a frying pan, but I... I kinda agree with what's been said.

I know, I know, you think we're all just hatin' on you and stuff, and I understand it's a bit hard to take, but I don't think you're quite getting it here. Having a car to work on is great, I love working on Bruiser, even though he can be a PITA sometimes. And I know this is going to be rich coming from someone like me who's wanting to pump insane amounts of money into a car that would barely fetch £800 at an auction here, but that's different. I've grown up with Bruiser, he's been with me for over half of my life, and he's like a vehicular little brother to me. I love him to pieces even if I don't show it to him that much, and he annoys me sometimes, but in the end he'll always bring a smile to my face. I fully understand what it's like to love a car, but... you've only had this Legend for a few days. I don't want to sound like an arse, but I'm sure you can't be that in love with a car after a few days.

I don't know what plans you really have for this, whether you want to build it into a GOTTA GO FASTE racer or a ballin' street cruiser, but with something like this I just don't think it would be worth it. Not now, at least. Perhaps once you're older and have more dolla dolla bills you can buy something like this and create something weird and wonderful. But, you're going to have a hard time making it look like the money you're pumping into it will be worth it, with all of it's mechanical headaches and lack of aftermarket parts. You know what I think you should start off with? I know it's cliché, but a Mondeo Miata. The answer is always Miata. There's so many Miata gurus on this forum you'd have no trouble looking for advice. Parts are cheap, and they're so popular with car enthusiasts that there's a massive amount of aftermarket kits and parts available for them too. It'll be relatively easy to turn one into your wildest dreams as well. Miatas are happy cars and are happy to go wherever you point them. Whether it's a good run in the Utahn mountains or a slide around in a skid pan or a dash through the dirt in some autocross, that Miata will be grinning with you every time. An Acura Legend however will moan and groan and just want to talk about business accounts and butt plugs instead of actually going out and having fun. It won't be happy to see you the next morning after a track day, it'll growl at you instead. A Miata might be aching a bit but it'll be hungry for more thrashing, and it will thank you for it by squealing it's tyres around the corners excitedly. I wouldn't rush into it though, I'd say keep an eye out on Craigslist for ones in decent condition, and nurse the Legend until you find the right one.

TL;DR - Miata's a hell of a drug.
 
'Fraid I'm also with the others here.

I'm not going to suggest you sell the Acura. That's a decision only you can make. I understand that you like the car (as you did the others) and that's something other people can't necessarily relate to. A car is personal to you.

However, I do feel like you'll eventually learn two life lessons out of this car, in addition to the Legacy and the Isuzu you had.

One - Buy cheap, buy twice. Or three times. I'm not sure how much you've got this one for but I can't help feeling that for the price you paid for this, the Legacy and the Isuzu together (plus any work you've had done to each), you'd have a pretty nice car that would need very little, if anything doing to it. One you could just drive and enjoy, and maybe modify if you were so inclined.

Two - It's much, much nicer to wrench on a car because you want to, rather than because you have to. Adding modifications or fitting new wheels or changing the oil to keep a car in rude health and to personalize it a bit is pretty much always preferable to get someone to change your headgaskets, or inspect a transmission fault (third in a row now?) on something with eighteen previous careless owners.

And I know it can be hard to admit when you get your fingers burned, but it's even harder to plow your hard-earned money into something only to have to give up a few months down the line because something terminal happens.
 
Have you thought about getting a real good base for once instead of something needing HGs, transmissions, etc? :)

Oh and paint in good shape? Dude with that rear quarter panel, rust and the front fender the paint isn't the major concern.



Well that's usually the reason you sell all your cars too isn't it? Can't expect change if you do the same things over and over.

Why don't you buy a Honda Civic? It will be much cheaper, easier to maintain, commonly modified base with a wide userbase with lots of aftermarket parts, they have high potential and are great fun in the mountains with even basic handling mods.

The engines last forever too.

We've been over this before, we all give you advice and you bite at us.

Your best option is to jump ship, sell this boat and get something with a higher potential which isn't utterly rooted - some cars just aren't saving, saying you love it just doesn't justify the money you're ready to spend on a car which will never be worth more than what you've paid for it.

Buy a Civic, seriously.

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Listen to yourself, man. Do you know what you sound like? You actually sound like an inmature, clingy, girl. Replace 'car' with 'him' and you see it.

Oh, but I love this one, like totally, those others meant nothing. You gotta trust me!

etc.

I agree with @eiriksmil. Buy something that doesn't need work. Something nice, easy to run, cheap to run, and bulletproof is what you want. Then, when you can afford it, buy a second car as a project. That way when you do drive it in the weekends it's just that little more special, plus if it breaks you still have a car to drive to school/work/where ever.

Everybody in here seems to be of the same opinion on this, and they've taken the letters right off my keyboard.

What I will say Is that you're a crazy good photographer. Seriously, If you're ever in Australia hit me up and I'll take a roadtrip so you can take some photos that my potato and personal uselessness at photography can not muster.

Good luck with the Legend, I hope it treats you well until you find something a bit better suited to... Whatever it is that you want in a car. If that takes 2 weeks or 20 years is down to you 👍

Meh.. Read up some of his threads and you'll see where I'm coming from.. :)

His life and his money, it would just be cool to see something constructive come out of it all.

I agree and I am a bit surprised you went from one beat up car to another. That head gasket alone could be $1,000 to repair or worse. Really not trying to be a downer but why keep buying cars that you know have major problems. Previous car had transmission problems and didn't last long. This car already has a head gasket issue and transmission problems. Really wish you the best of luck but sometimes its better to save a little money and get something in better condition. You stated in the other thread you are a bit ignorant at times and have learned your lesson. There was a LOT of great advice in the other thread that seems to have went in one ear and out the other. Then you get this car with major issues again? :dunce:

Best of luck. Hopefully you at least wont take this one mud running which resulted in instant death for the Subaru. :sly:

Okay. I know you're probably not happy reading this, and I know if people were saying this about Bruiser I'd certainly slap their faces with a frying pan, but I... I kinda agree with what's been said.

I know, I know, you think we're all just hatin' on you and stuff, and I understand it's a bit hard to take, but I don't think you're quite getting it here. Having a car to work on is great, I love working on Bruiser, even though he can be a PITA sometimes. And I know this is going to be rich coming from someone like me who's wanting to pump insane amounts of money into a car that would barely fetch £800 at an auction here, but that's different. I've grown up with Bruiser, he's been with me for over half of my life, and he's like a vehicular little brother to me. I love him to pieces even if I don't show it to him that much, and he annoys me sometimes, but in the end he'll always bring a smile to my face. I fully understand what it's like to love a car, but... you've only had this Legend for a few days. I don't want to sound like an arse, but I'm sure you can't be that in love with a car after a few days.

I don't know what plans you really have for this, whether you want to build it into a GOTTA GO FASTE racer or a ballin' street cruiser, but with something like this I just don't think it would be worth it. Not now, at least. Perhaps once you're older and have more dolla dolla bills you can buy something like this and create something weird and wonderful. But, you're going to have a hard time making it look like the money you're pumping into it will be worth it, with all of it's mechanical headaches and lack of aftermarket parts. You know what I think you should start off with? I know it's cliché, but a Mondeo Miata. The answer is always Miata. There's so many Miata gurus on this forum you'd have no trouble looking for advice. Parts are cheap, and they're so popular with car enthusiasts that there's a massive amount of aftermarket kits and parts available for them too. It'll be relatively easy to turn one into your wildest dreams as well. Miatas are happy cars and are happy to go wherever you point them. Whether it's a good run in the Utahn mountains or a slide around in a skid pan or a dash through the dirt in some autocross, that Miata will be grinning with you every time. An Acura Legend however will moan and groan and just want to talk about business accounts and butt plugs instead of actually going out and having fun. It won't be happy to see you the next morning after a track day, it'll growl at you instead. A Miata might be aching a bit but it'll be hungry for more thrashing, and it will thank you for it by squealing it's tyres around the corners excitedly. I wouldn't rush into it though, I'd say keep an eye out on Craigslist for ones in decent condition, and nurse the Legend until you find the right one.

TL;DR - Miata's a hell of a drug.

'Fraid I'm also with the others here.

I'm not going to suggest you sell the Acura. That's a decision only you can make. I understand that you like the car (as you did the others) and that's something other people can't necessarily relate to. A car is personal to you.

However, I do feel like you'll eventually learn two life lessons out of this car, in addition to the Legacy and the Isuzu you had.

One - Buy cheap, buy twice. Or three times. I'm not sure how much you've got this one for but I can't help feeling that for the price you paid for this, the Legacy and the Isuzu together (plus any work you've had done to each), you'd have a pretty nice car that would need very little, if anything doing to it. One you could just drive and enjoy, and maybe modify if you were so inclined.

Two - It's much, much nicer to wrench on a car because you want to, rather than because you have to. Adding modifications or fitting new wheels or changing the oil to keep a car in rude health and to personalize it a bit is pretty much always preferable to get someone to change your headgaskets, or inspect a transmission fault (third in a row now?) on something with eighteen previous careless owners.

And I know it can be hard to admit when you get your fingers burned, but it's even harder to plow your hard-earned money into something only to have to give up a few months down the line because something terminal happens.

It was so awesome to read all of this on my only break during a hellish day at work.

*sigh*

I don't know where to start. I'm seriously overwhelmed by the fact that everyone is so quick to suggest buying another car after only two days of me owning this one. I know I seem like a typical jerk who ignores everyone's advice and tries to go his own way even when I ask for help. You guys, I really, really appreciate all of the stuff you're telling me. Yeah, I gave up on the Subaru because I created more of a problem with it despite being warned.

I want to admit to something I've pretty much just been bottling up inside this whole time. I'm very emotional, and dramatic when it comes to being stressed out by something. Being that I work at a very stressful job that underpays is just killing me inside. I know, I could always just get a new job, no big deal. Well, it's not that simple for me, sadly. I don't act normal under stress; even my family has to put up with it and puts their two cents in frequently.

I wish this didn't affect how I speak to people over the Internet, because I probably sound downright ignorant and assholish. I get upset, but I genuinely wish I wouldn't let it out as coarsely as I do.

Regarding the car, I know I mentioned the transmission and head gasket had issues. The transmission is seriously not that bad. It probably just needs a fluid change. The "rough shifts" are just subtle jolts in between shifts. Other than that, there is no smell, no grinding, nothing. The head gasket issue was honestly something my dad inferred by the smoke he saw. He never even looked at it closely, but I do know it currently has too much oil in it from whoever owned it last and the smoke has yet to be seen since early morning yesterday.

People are saying I should buy a Civic, or buy a Miata, both of which I adore, but I don't want to commit to something like that just yet. This car is only going to be a daily driver, and I might have made the con list sound bad, but it seriously does work great for the issues I listed. The quarter panel can be replaced, right? I was seriously wanting something that would drive smoothly and be practical enough to supply me with all of the common daily-driving needs. This car seriously has all of that to offer. Someone mentioned that there are a lack of parts out there for this car. I'm not sure what parts they were thinking of when they said it, but I have no desire to make this a full-on tuner. Maybe a good set of coilovers, 16s, and a smooth exhaust is all I had planned for it at most. The "project", which I personally wouldn't consider this car to be, for the most part, will come later and can be titled as the "weekend warrior".

Come on guys, I feel ganged-up on here. I don't react to that stuff well so I'm trying to clear it up and explain it to the best of my ability. I'm not trying to make up excuses just to get everyone off my back.

I want to throw out a serious apology to all of the people I have chewed out or ignored advice from in the past. I totally gave everyone the wrong first impression of myself, but I would love to wipe the slate clean and be seen in the light I intend to be seen in, despite never trying harder to execute that.

Yeah, I sure as hell am indecisive. I get it from my brother, and my dad. I'd love to be able to stick with something - a car in this case - for more than a year. I will try to work on that.

In short, for now, I want to keep the car and see what major issues it actually has. Until I know anything, I can't officially commit to purchasing a new vehicle.
 
Please don't take offense to this, but you don't sound like someone who is totally up to speed with fixing cars, yet. If I were you, I would buy a car that doesn't require major, or any work. A rough transmission will only get worse. And, well, a suspected head gasket is not what an inexperienced person with mechanics needs just yet. I must echo the Civic or MX-5 suggestion. These things are cheap (I think, I don't live in the US to check :P) and parts are plentiful. And, if anything were to go wrong, which is pretty unlikely due to the great engineering these things have, you have like a billion specialists on them, right here.

And, I must apologize too. I feel like I've came across as a bit of an ass recently, but it's mainly because I'm seeing all of this great advice being ignored a bit. Remember, we're doing this for your benefit. 👍

Also, I must say, that first picture of your 'artistic set' looks fantastic. :)
 
It's an SOHC V6 with blown gaskets, significant panel damage and rust, a stuffed gearbox, "Luxury" suspension and is a car that is notorious the world over for being a nightmare of a car.

Get out while you still can. The reason you're feeling "Ganged up on" is merely because everybody here is speaking sense - so naturally we all agree...

You can't simply "Replace" a rear quarter panel. It does not come off - it requires very expensive body shop work to repair.

What do you mean you don't want to commit to a Civic or an MX5? what, because they're far cheaper than this thing? they're a far superior car? Just because they're widely tuned vehicles doesn't mean yours has to be modified. It's because of their wide tuner base that factory items are damn near worthless, thus making the car cheaper to maintain by a significant way.

Once again, we're not trying to be dicks - we're trying to once again help you despite the fact you blow up on us and tell us to shove it when only 3 months later all the things I alone told you came true.

Please, for your own sake - jump ship before you lose any more money on this car and for the love of all that is good buy a decent base. You're only setting yourself up for more heartache - if you fell in love with this thing in 2 days I can promise you you'll fall in love with a Civic or MX5, they have more charisma than damn near any other cars I've owned.
 
But I will also add, I already have the car. Saving up for something more sporty and agile like the Civic or Miata would be futile considering this car's repairs would be nearly the same price as the new car. It's all very confusing and I need to take a break from thinking about it for the rest of the night.
 
If you like the Acura and really want to keep it, get it properly inspected. Take it to an experienced, trustworthy mechanic, and see what he makes of it.

Best case scenario, the head gasket isn't blown, and the transmission simply needs a fluid change. The rest of the stuff can be taken care of inexpensively and you can point your finger and laugh at us for doubting you.

Worst case scenario, you have a blown head gasket and a transmission on its way out. Those things put together will cost 3 to 4 times more to repair then what the car's worth, and a lot more then what you'd pay for a decent Civic/Miata.

I suspect it'll be somewhere in between so it'll really be up to you to decide whether its worth it. Certainly the Legend can be a satisfying car to own but considering your passion for rallying and spirited driving in general, it might not be the right fit for you either.
 
I certainly didn't mean sacking Jasmine straight away :lol:. I was just afraid you had big plans for her like you did with Mandy, but you've cleared that up now, and I'm glad you don't want to do anything outrageous just yet. 👍

Miata's still a hell of a drug though. :P
 
Sell the car as is where is privately, get as much of your money back as possible and buy a proper car. If you want to wait a couple weeks for a backup fund that's cool but I can't stress enough how much of a black hole of money this car will be and I promise you it will never reward nor thank you for your efforts.

Try change the trans fluid, if it fixes the slipping you might manage to make a buck off it.

There's a very good reason we're all having a much stronger negative reaction to this car than your Subaru bro, believe me.
 
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What you 'should' do is get a bulletproof, mechanically sound car that's cheap because it's rusty but can still get you to work while you save up dough for something awesome. Or, depending on how much you gave, drive the Acura to the ground while you save up money.

The rear quarter has to be cut out, welded, flushed with lead or filler, primered and painted.. This is the main reason why I would never have bought it in the first place, all this makes it hard to flip. The more you know and so on..

I can buy a project that needs a head gasket, because I can do it and I have a bulletproof daily. A buddy of mine wouldn't have a problem buying a car needing a lot of body work, that's what he does. Learning is good, but you don't start school with derivation, you learn the basics of adding and subtracting first. Same deal with cars.. And believe me when I say that a used car will have some issues regardless, even if it seems very sound there will always be something to do. The most apparent issues are usually just the tip of the ice berg.

You go through that learning curve and those of us who have advice you because we know how much or little work the issues you have are with these cars and we "know" when you're "ready" for dealing with it. One step at the time, if the list becomes too long and overwhelming you lose motivation and you'll be stuck in the same rut over and over again. Progress and the feeling of completion/success is key to good mental health ;)
 
I know I seem like a typical jerk who ignores everyone's advice and tries to go his own way even when I ask for help. You guys, I really, really appreciate all of the stuff you're telling me.
You don't seem like a jerk at all, and I'd reiterate that everything people has said so far has been with your best interests at heart, rather than just to give you a hard time.

Like I said in my own post, I'm not suggesting you sell the car, as that's a decision only you can make. But whether you stick with this one, or choose to sell and move onto something else in whatever timeframe, I'd suggest that it's always wiser paying that extra little bit up front for something mechanically sound, rather than buying something that needs work and biting off more than you could chew.

It happens to everyone at some point - it happened with my Rover and Beetle (the former of which was a daily driver so much more of an issue - coincidentally I owned both at the same time!). I only owned the Rover two months. Why? I bought it without inspecting it properly, it had a bunch of issues that would have cost the value I paid for it to fix, and I had no guarantees that it wouldn't develop other expensive problems further down the line. Made a loss selling it, but that was better for me than spending thousands extra and still not having a car I was happy with. I would own another (genuinely) but next time I'd buy the best I could afford with as much history as possible!

I think @eiriksmil has some good advice here. Since I suspect Utah's vehicle inspections are less stringent than they are in the UK where rust can render a car unroadworthy, I'd be tempted to find something mechanically as close to perfect as possible but with shoddy bodywork instead. It'll still be cheap and it won't look as good on the driveway, but you could effectively drive it around for years spending very little on it. If you wanted to boost your skills you could even buy a basic welder and use the car to learn to weld. Again, the welds may not be very pretty but it's a good skill and much cheaper than replacing big mechanical bits!

And I figure since you're in Utah, which is a big bowl of salt with lots of precipitation over winter, I expect rusty cars are easy enough to find :D
 
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