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1.02 With the Z4 seems Scary to me :scared:

I have just tried your set up & it goes pretty well indeed.... Managed a 1.03.9 in 5 laps but like that I don't think this car can go 1.02 low ???

I would say 1.03 low seems to be pretty good 👍
 
Ardius
When they updated it, they only changed the PP value, so quit the bull.

Also, read my post again, did I say I hated either Elise? Did I say i hated those who drove it? Did I say that it was a crap car? No I didnt say any of those things, so wtf with your response.
I can't see why you would want one car to dominate, it just makes it boring, regardless what car it is.

And, yes, if one car dominates again, I do expect PD to update it so they do not. Fortuntely though, that doesn't seem to be happening, all cars are equal performance in PP600. The problem with the Tuned Elise was that it blatantly wasn't meant to be that low PP value and had clearly been mistakenly placed there because it had a low power to weight ratio thus falling through the loop that PD must use to determine PP values. Seriously, you can't defend such a car being able to be in PP650, it creamed all competition, regardless of driver skill. This is not an issue with realism, its an issue with regulations for competition.
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Wow what a muppet, calm down I was expressing my opinion on the Lotus not dissing you. I have formed my opinion from some really good drivers and they tell me the Lotus does not handle well at all like it did pre update so instead of dissing me perhaps you would like to diss them instead?

The point of GT5p is that it is a car simulation yes? A car sim reflects how a car handles in real life or near to it as possible yes? If you agree on those then even you should agree that the Lotus does not handle like it does in real life and the pre update it was very much closer not just the pp either, I got that from a guy who has driven a Lotus.

I couldn't care less if you think it dominated or not, personally I wouldn't care if it was the slowest car in GT5p but I like Lotus's and would like to use them in GT5p but the way they are I struggle which is why I came here to ask for a tune. I disagree with you and think the Lotus is less realistic than it was again I got that from Lotus drivers (real life) as there is no way on earth that I could, lol.

If any car dominates in GT5p and is shown to do so in real life then it should do in game as well otherwise what point is there having a sim? Perhaps you would be more suited to Grid?
 
Crowsy
Wow what a muppet, calm down I was expressing my opinion on the Lotus not dissing you. I have formed my opinion from some really good drivers and they tell me the Lotus does not handle well at all like it did pre update so instead of dissing me perhaps you would like to diss them instead?

The point of GT5p is that it is a car simulation yes? A car sim reflects how a car handles in real life or near to it as possible yes? If you agree on those then even you should agree that the Lotus does not handle like it does in real life and the pre update it was very much closer not just the pp either, I got that from a guy who has driven a Lotus.

I couldn't care less if you think it dominated or not, personally I wouldn't care if it was the slowest car in GT5p but I like Lotus's and would like to use them in GT5p but the way they are I struggle which is why I came here to ask for a tune. I disagree with you and think the Lotus is less realistic than it was again I got that from Lotus drivers (real life) as there is no way on earth that I could, lol.

If any car dominates in GT5p and is shown to do so in real life then it should do in game as well otherwise what point is there having a sim? Perhaps you would be more suited to Grid?
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They didnt change the physics of the car at all....only PP value....how many times do I need to repeat that? I'm fine with the Elise beating a Jaguar XK or BMW M3 or whatever, however, I am not fine with such a car being able to get into events it shouldnt.
The issue at hand was with the Elise Tuned getting entry into PP650 because of a loophole in how PD calculate PP values. So, it was like an F1 car getting entry into PP500, its not the performance of the car I'm complaining about, its the fact its allowed entry into a class it clearly shouldnt be able to.

Also....where do you find a Lotus Elise tuned by Gran Turismo in real life? Its a Concept car made specifically for the game. Yes, it does emulate the Exige, but then, if they were copying the Exige, wouldnt they just call it an Exige?
 
there are two Lotus's in the game as far as I'm aware. You could also repeat yourself untill the cow's come home for all I care, people who I listen to are civil and as I said before also have driven one in real life and if they say it handles different now then thats good enough for me.

The Lotus is built on handling, that is it's trademark, watch top gear and they will show you. I'm not bothered about about different events like pp650 I'm concerned about the Lotus's handling whatever you might think PD have or have not done. I'm not interested in how fast it goes compared to other cars, events it gets into ETC I am just voicing what Lotus drivers have said about the car in game. In fact one real Lotus driver said the car was more difficult to drive in game than what it is in real life especially after the update.
 
Crowsy
there are two Lotus's in the game as far as I'm aware. You could also repeat yourself untill the cow's come home for all I care, people who I listen to are civil and as I said before also have driven one in real life and if they say it handles different now then thats good enough for me.

The Lotus is built on handling, that is it's trademark, watch top gear and they will show you. I'm not bothered about about different events like pp650 I'm concerned about the Lotus's handling whatever you might think PD have or have not done. I'm not interested in how fast it goes compared to other cars, events it gets into ETC I am just voicing what Lotus drivers have said about the car in game. In fact one real Lotus driver said the car was more difficult to drive in game than what it is in real life especially after the update.
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In other words you're just ignoring everything I've said and want to keep repeating yourself?
Do you even have this game?

You want to take this to PM's? Its already pretty off topic.
 
I just switched from using the analogue sticks to trying to use the triggers on the sixaxis controller and I have to say it is a pain to get accustomed to the new set up. I find myself looking for the next button i need to press, but i guess it will come with time.

I decided what better place to train my fingers than london in the z4 and it is much easier to control the throttle with the trigger but it also takes a toll on the index finger and so now i have to take a rest after every five laps i run. I also keep hitting the walls at london cause for some reason they appear further then the y really are, especially the walls on the inside of the turns. Anyone else having this problem?

Now i am at 1'05 with the triggers and hopefully i can get lower this time because this car should be able to run one minute flat.
 
Crowsy
there are two Lotus's in the game as far as I'm aware. You could also repeat yourself untill the cow's come home for all I care, people who I listen to are civil and as I said before also have driven one in real life and if they say it handles different now then thats good enough for me.

The Lotus is built on handling, that is it's trademark, watch top gear and they will show you. I'm not bothered about about different events like pp650 I'm concerned about the Lotus's handling whatever you might think PD have or have not done. I'm not interested in how fast it goes compared to other cars, events it gets into ETC I am just voicing what Lotus drivers have said about the car in game. In fact one real Lotus driver said the car was more difficult to drive in game than what it is in real life especially after the update.
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TBH, if they think the car handles worse in this game then they are full of it. Try my Tuned setup, extremely good handling. They also won't realise that in the game they have no fear of crashing and dying and are definitely going to be pushing harder bringing out more faults in the car's handling. In a game every lap is essentially a hot lap, not many people seem to settle into a race pace come race day, GTP'ers normally do, which is why we don't all crash so much. I'm just saying, push a car to its outer limits, especially with a short wheel-base like the Elise, and you will break traction. These guys should drive the in-game Elise around a track they drive it on themselves, and watch their real life lap time disappear in history. I'm not having a go at you, and I personally never felt a difference in the Elise after the update.

angelx
I just switched from using the analogue sticks to trying to use the triggers on the sixaxis controller and I have to say it is a pain to get accustomed to the new set up. I find myself looking for the next button i need to press, but i guess it will come with time.

I decided what better place to train my fingers than london in the z4 and it is much easier to control the throttle with the trigger but it also takes a toll on the index finger and so now i have to take a rest after every five laps i run. I also keep hitting the walls at london cause for some reason they appear further then the y really are, especially the walls on the inside of the turns. Anyone else having this problem?

Now i am at 1'05 with the triggers and hopefully i can get lower this time because this car should be able to run one minute flat.
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I use triggers and my fingers did hurt a little at first. I thought it'd get worse, but it only took a week or so before I was accustomed to it.:)
 
I am liking your Z4 tune, I have to get used to them tires and the London track, but at the moment I am running 1.05.xx and I know I can shave some time off that, need to get that long left/right turn better.
 
BaldurKn
I am liking your Z4 tune, I have to get used to them tires and the London track, but at the moment I am running 1.05.xx and I know I can shave some time off that, need to get that long left/right turn better.
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Good to hear. I'd like to think I've optimised the setup for London, hopefully that will give us an advantage.:)
 
nd 4 holden spd
TBH, if they think the car handles worse in this game then they are full of it. Try my Tuned setup, extremely good handling. They also won't realise that in the game they have no fear of crashing and dying and are definitely going to be pushing harder bringing out more faults in the car's handling. In a game every lap is essentially a hot lap, not many people seem to settle into a race pace come race day, GTP'ers normally do, which is why we don't all crash so much. I'm just saying, push a car to its outer limits, especially with a short wheel-base like the Elise, and you will break traction. These guys should drive the in-game Elise around a track they drive it on themselves, and watch their real life lap time disappear in history. I'm not having a go at you, and I personally never felt a difference in the Elise after the update.
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I hear what you are saying. I can't seem to find the Elise tune for 600pp. I will be most eager to try it if you have.
 
Crowsy
I hear what you are saying. I can't seem to find the Elise tune for 600pp. I will be most eager to try it if you have.
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The only current Elise I have is the 111R/Tuned. It is for 750 PP. Your Elise '96 is done, I just have to find some time to send it you. It handles extremely well but is so poor on the straights it won't even be close to competitive in 600 PP.:indiff:
 
nd 4 holden spd
The only current Elise I have is the 111R/Tuned. It is for 750 PP. Your Elise '96 is done, I just have to find some time to send it you. It handles extremely well but is so poor on the straights it won't even be close to competitive in 600 PP.:indiff:
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Thats fine m8, its about the drive for me. I usually go on suzuka 600pp as it is one track you can't seem to cheat on, you know some drivers ride walls and that.

I'm hoping that further down the line we will get private rooms online so that we can have just one make races and your setups are brill so I will have the advantage, hahahaha. We are trying to have one make races now over at the PS forum but they are tricky.

I should have asked for a 600pp tune for that TVR I tried, I liked that a lot. lol. Thanks again though.


PS I do a lot of time trials as well so it doesn't matter if they are not competitive towards others that much, be great if they were but doesn't matter as I can use it for that.
 
TLD Chevy Corvette C6
(301kw) (574Nm) (1435kg) (600 PP) (Pro Physics)​

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Performance:

Power: -21
Weight: 101%
Tyres: S2

Settings:

Suspension:
Ride Height: -10/-8
Spring Rate: 8/4
Damper: 6/3
Toe: -0.16/+0.15
Camber: 1.7/1.0

Brake Balance: 4/6

Max Turn Angle: 32

All driving aids are up to the driver, tuned with all aids off except ABS at 1

Gear Ratios:
1st: 2.308
2nd: 1.588
3rd: 1.181
4th: 0.918
5th: 0.730
6th: 0.596
Final: 3.597

Description: I'm going to come out and say that this may be one of my best creations ever. The Corvette is my pride and joy in GT5:P, so you know that I won't release one until I'm 100% satisfied with the handling characteristics, and what a handler it is! I quite literally spent days tuning this car, improving here, improving there. The end result is shocking compared to what it was stock. I never felt comfortable in 600 PP until I made this car, and now it's the only car I ever use. Strangely, despite big power and torque levels it can not keep up on straights though, which means that this car will not be a front runner. I feel it should be but it isn't. Still, its worth the experience, the fun, and the V8 roar.

Thanks to AERO_HDT and 888 Tuning for the advice you inputed.
 
Thx for this one. I've been driving the GTR but now I wanted to try a RWD car around Suzuka 600 PP. Since almost all RWD drivers are driving the F430 and the NSX, I'll try this one for a change (at least in the look of the grids, lol).

Oh, and btw, I don't mind if this car isn't a "front runner", I still don't care much about finishing position, what really makes me glad is to finish a race knowing I was clean to others and didn't mess up myself. Anyway, thanks for the warning :)
 
Hun200kmh
Thx for this one. I've been driving the GTR but now I wanted to try a RWD car around Suzuka 600 PP. Since almost all RWD drivers are driving the F430 and the NSX, I'll try this one for a change (at least in the look of the grids, lol).

Oh, and btw, I don't mind if this car isn't a "front runner", I still don't care much about finishing position, what really makes me glad is to finish a race knowing I was clean to others and didn't mess up myself. Anyway, thanks for the warning :)
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Nice. Can I look forward to a review/some comments on what you thought of it?:)
 
I wonder how that Corvette does against my DC Viper, hmmm.
I know I can cream those Evo X's online who have TCS on, because they go super slow on the 200R and I can catch them very easily with some slipstreaming, so I wonder how good it does against this.
Might have to arrange a race sometime.
 
Ardius
Fine with me, are you up for a morning race?
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I was referring to the review asked by nd 4 holden spd :)

I'm always ready to race, weekdays only late night (between 23:00 PM and 1 or 2 AM), because of work and family.

Weekends, during the day, it's whenever I get a chance (ie, my wife doesn't need me urgently to save the world; my son isn't playing GRID; my daughters don't need me to save them from their mother :sly: ).

At night, I send them all to bed and the PS3 is (again) all mine, lol
 
Hun200kmh
I was referring to the review asked by nd 4 holden spd :)

I'm always ready to race, weekdays only late night (between 23:00 PM and 1 or 2 AM), because of work and family.

Weekends, during the day, it's whenever I get a chance (ie, my wife doesn't need me urgently to save the world; my son isn't playing GRID; my daughters don't need me to save them from their mother :sly: ).

At night, I send them all to bed and the PS3 is (again) all mine, lol
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Oh, lol, well, how about a race tonight? You with Holden's Corvette tune and me with NLxAROSA's Viper tune? Suzuka PP600 at about 23:00 UK time?

nd 4 holden spd
I think Viper has better acceleration, but Corvette out-handles it by miles.
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We shall see. I concur but I prefer the Viper's handling, so I feel it has a good chance of keeping up in the corners.
 
UK time is the same as Portugal's I guess. I'll do my best to attend at 23:00. If I can't, I'll send you a PSN message 👍

beware, I've never driven the Corvette, so I'll probably look like a noob, messing it up for several races before I can be at least competent driving it :crazy:

(notice: I just said "competent", not exactly "competitive", that should take a few more training sessions :) )
 
Hun200kmh
UK time is the same as Portugal's I guess. I'll do my best to attend at 23:00. If I can't, I'll send you a PSN message 👍

beware, I've never driven the Corvette, so I'll probably look like a noob, messing it up for several races before I can be at least competent driving it :crazy:

(notice: I just said "competent", not exactly "competitive", that should take a few more training sessions :) )
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Yeah, i think we're both in the same timezone, I can wait till later if needs be so, no worries.
I'm always worried I look like a noob, lol, I constantly make silly mistakes sometimes, so again, no worries, I will wait for you if you go off or get punted. I'm not doing this just to beat you, I genuinely want to see how the Viper competes, and also to have some good racing, so if that requires me to wait around, then I will.

Add me on PSN if you want, I'll look forward to this. :)👍
 
I popped in here on the off chance you'd got round to making a 600pp RW car, low and behold you have, unfortunately having test drove it without much success i've had to alter the suspension settings, probably to suit my driving style, more than likely because of being a fairly new driver on he RW scene i'm a bit too aggressive and the Vette doesn't like it. After the tweaks, hmmmmm i like it, took it for a race and i'm pretty sure cars moved over to let me through, probably amazed that a Corvette had suddenly appeared in their rear veiw mirror...oh and the pleasure, pure pleasure when i'm ever so slightly sliding it round the corner and i see in my rear veiw mirror the scoobies/Evo's sliding OFF the track(no tags), i'm sure other new drivers end up trying to hard, thinking to themselves i can't have THAT beating me, if only they knew, my windows are down, the tunes are playing and i got a ciggy in my mouth, enjoying my sunday drive, lol
 
Sweet image. To make it perfect, I only think you should take the girl from the back of the car and have her sit by your side ... or doesn't she like you when you're smoking? :sly:
 
she, was talking to much, so she's in the boot, you get use to the thumping coming from the rear as you know its not the car
 
Cashwars
I popped in here on the off chance you'd got round to making a 600pp RW car, low and behold you have, unfortunately having test drove it without much success i've had to alter the suspension settings, probably to suit my driving style, more than likely because of being a fairly new driver on he RW scene i'm a bit too aggressive and the Vette doesn't like it. After the tweaks, hmmmmm i like it, took it for a race and i'm pretty sure cars moved over to let me through, probably amazed that a Corvette had suddenly appeared in their rear veiw mirror...oh and the pleasure, pure pleasure when i'm ever so slightly sliding it round the corner and i see in my rear veiw mirror the scoobies/Evo's sliding OFF the track(no tags), i'm sure other new drivers end up trying to hard, thinking to themselves i can't have THAT beating me, if only they knew, my windows are down, the tunes are playing and i got a ciggy in my mouth, enjoying my sunday drive, lol
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This is the exact reason I have always used RWD's and generally cars that no-one else tends to use, for the fun of driving them and for the pleasure of beating competition that should really be 30 seconds ahead of me. I've even had some close races against Evo's, R8's, NSX's and Impreza's which was very thrilling. I can't say the same when I'm driving the same cars, because they should be even.
 

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