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New Tuned time. Will go back to untuned next time I play...the UK top 20 are really tight and continuing to push eachother forward as those who were in the top 20, want back in!

Thus, the gap between 10th and 20th is only 2 tenths. But 20th to 30th is 6tenths...

With a couple at least not allowed to compete, it's going to be busy all the way to the 25th I reckon...And there's going to be a couple of rainy faces come that date!

Total = 3'24.572

Tuned = 1'36.185
Normal = 1'48.387
 
fasj6418
I think you will have a nice surprise when you get back to the normal car. I've been chasing your ghost for the last two days, and altough it's a great lap, there are three turns where i usually make up ground on you, so i think you will end up with a 1'47'7xx there.

I start the lap in front, i gain a bit on the sweeping left after T1, on the left after T2 and on the slow left just before T3.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.👍
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Yea, hopefully I'll be in for a nice suprise once I put some time in with the stock Z :) For the past week or more, I've really been focusing on the Tuned Z, as I feel that car is much more unnatural to me in terms of finding the speed...so I really wanted to at least put in a solid lap before going back to the stocker.

Unfortunately since I've neglected to improve on my stock Z time, while of a sudden hitting a brick wall with the Tuned Z, my world wide ranking has dropped from the top 10 to outside of the top 20, but once I get back in the stock car I should be able to claw back quite a few positions. I just hope I can nail a 35.6xx with the Tuned Z today, so I can move on for now :lol:

On another note - What's everyone's opinion on using 3rd vs 2nd gear as you exit the first right hand corner to begin the lap, in the stock Z? Also, what about holding 3rd vs. shifting to 4th approaching turn 11 with the Tuned Z? Just wanted to get some other peoples views on this 👍
 
GTP_rpm
With a couple at least not allowed to compete, it's going to be busy all the way to the 25th I reckon...And there's going to be a couple of rainy faces come that date!
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One of them me by any chance? im hoping ill be aloud though or it would extremly harsh i think... just days before my birthday... and whos the other moose?
 
timeattack07gt
On another note - What's everyone's opinion on using 3rd vs 2nd gear as you exit the first right hand corner to begin the lap, in the stock Z? Also, what about holding 3rd vs. shifting to 4th approaching turn 11 with the Tuned Z? Just wanted to get some other peoples views on this 👍
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i was under that dilemma too.. i found that about the

normal: 3rd gear is safer and fast enough but the 2nd gear, if well applied, will make you jump a bit more until the redline at the same point where you need to take off your foot from the throttle and turn left.. thats an harmonic driving... so i think 2nd still the best way to be faster

tuned: i dont change to 4th because when the car asks for that shift, its time to left your foot again and let the car slide right..

my 2cents :D
 
MeAgainstYou
i was under that dilemma too.. i found that about the

normal: 3rd gear is safer and fast enough but the 2nd gear, if well applied, will make you jump a bit more until the redline at the same point where you need to take off your foot from the throttle and turn left.. thats an harmonic driving... so i think 2nd still the best way to be faster

tuned: i dont change to 4th because when the car asks for that shift, its time to left your foot again and let the car slide right..

my 2cents :D
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Thanks for your insight MAY :)

I had the same feeling as you regarding the stock car - using 2nd for the first corner felt like you could potentially go quicker, but 3rd was much easier (for me) to be consistent with, without losing much time at all vs. using 2nd for that brief moment.

Regarding shifting just prior to turn 11 entry in the Tuned Z - Up until now I had been shifting to 4th just briefly approaching turn 11 and then downshifting back to 3rd as soon as I flicked the car in for entry, as it seemed like I would hit the limiter rather noticeably before turning in. But I think the time it takes to shift from 3rd to 4th makes the shift rather pointless in the end. By giving your brain another task to do by upshifting and downshifting upon entry of turn 11, it's just adding an unnecessary distraction to an already difficult/important corner. So from now on I'll just ride 3rd out and concentrate on getting the best line through there as possible 👍
 
timeattack07gt
Regarding shifting just prior to turn 11 entry in the Tuned Z - Up until now I had been shifting to 4th just briefly approaching turn 11 and then downshifting back to 3rd as soon as I flicked the car in for entry, as it seemed like I would hit the limiter rather noticeably before turning in. But I think the time it takes to shift from 3rd to 4th makes the shift rather pointless in the end. By giving your brain another task to do by upshifting and downshifting upon entry of turn 11, it's just adding an unnecessary distraction to an already difficult/important corner. So from now on I'll just ride 3rd out and concentrate on getting the best line through there as possible 👍
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nothing else to add, perfect 👍
 
I would give my opinion, but my English is so limited :lol:.

I can only say that I make the first corner in 3rd in the stock car and with the tuned I don't upshift to 4th xD
 
was shifting up to the 4th with the tuned. but watched Timo´s replay today, and i think 3rd will be better. :dopey:


great laps out there, and we have still 3 weeks more to go. :nervous: 👍 👍

Lars still racing, FAK, Ramon and many more. 👍
 
timeattack07gt
Yea, hopefully I'll be in for a nice suprise once I put some time in with the stock Z :) For the past week or more, I've really been focusing on the Tuned Z, as I feel that car is much more unnatural to me in terms of finding the speed...so I really wanted to at least put in a solid lap before going back to the stocker.

Unfortunately since I've neglected to improve on my stock Z time, while of a sudden hitting a brick wall with the Tuned Z, my world wide ranking has dropped from the top 10 to outside of the top 20, but once I get back in the stock car I should be able to claw back quite a few positions. I just hope I can nail a 35.6xx with the Tuned Z today, so I can move on for now :lol:

On another note - What's everyone's opinion on using 3rd vs 2nd gear as you exit the first right hand corner to begin the lap, in the stock Z? Also, what about holding 3rd vs. shifting to 4th approaching turn 11 with the Tuned Z? Just wanted to get some other peoples views on this 👍
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I'm a very curious person, so i have watched a lot of replays. (having multiple PSN accounts to do this).

Dan, Takeuchi and tako321 (fastest normal car laps) all use the 2nd gear in two occasions i wasn't using it. On the first turn, and on the sweeping left after T1.

After some practice, i found out that 2nd was definately the way to go on the first turn, since the upshift to 3rd afterwards was a nice way to correct some wheelspin.

The key for me was to force a slide right as i downshifted to 2nd on the first turn, with that your car will be pointed exactly where you need for the lefty. Even with that i have only seen one 28'0xx.

As for using the 2nd gear on the turn after T1, i just never felt used to it. I would end up sliding or spinning too much, so i stuck with the 3rd gear all the way there.

I can't comment on the tuned car, since i haven't really had a proper go yet.
 
Microscopic improvement (0.039) in the tuned car today as a reward for hours of toil.

N: 1'48.264
T: 1'36.228
>>> 3'24.492 [20th in UK]

Was 19th, but yet another competitor took a huge leap from behind up the leaderboard. Great driving Steve 👍

I had splits of T1 24.944 / T2 48.301 in the tuned but again it only came out as 1'36.2, I have a feeling that should have been a faster lap.

All the best
Maz
 
New question: Will anyone be able to catch Takeuchi?


EDIT: Maybe he had the lucky star 💡
 
I finally broke into the 35.6's (1'35.684) with the tuned Z tonight, some 10-15 frustrating hours later :ill: :lol: Putting me at 16th in the world wide rankings w/ a 3'23.592.

A few days ago I had seen that Dan had changed his steering setting from simulation to amateur for the tuned Z, so I followed suit thinking it would be better for me as well...which after several days I FINALLY realized that it was not helping me one bit :dunce: It's just too bad I was too hard headed to realize that I am personally better off using the simulation setting :ouch: Tonight after getting about 45 minutes into the session I finally decided to revert back to the simulation setting, and within about 5 laps I had hit the lap that I was looking for, which I've spent hours upon hours trying to achieve :nervous:

Realistically I still see another 1-2 tenths to be had, but won't hop back into this nightmare until I get back in the stock Z and take some much needed time off that lap 👍

Well, at least I can sleep easy tonight :sly: :lol:
 
CoolColJ
PSN - CoolColJ
1:38:466 - rank 361
1:50:599 - rank 194

total 3:29:065 - rank 223

Yah! Back into the top 250. Worked on my normal Z time today, hopeful that will keep the rabble at bay for a while. I lost 0.1 sec on the last oval section too :nervous:

No luck on the tuned, but tommorrow hopefully I will crack it, as I was able churn out consecutive laps in the upper 1:38s.
Finally getting my driving lines sorted. I had the 1:37 guy as my ghost, on one lap everything clicked, drifted into the first turn and powered out, with nothing to spare and was 0.4 sec ahead at the first sector, but then I nipped the grass on the back straight braking zone and spun out :ouch:
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PSN - CoolColJ
1:38:237 - rank 294
1:50:599 - rank 201

total 3:28:836 - rank 206

small improvement on the tuned, but I still can't crack into the 1:37s....grrrr. I was peeling off tons of laps in a row in the low to mid 1:38 secs today. The 1:37 ghost I used just pulls away in the oval section, I must be losing all my time there, because I can stay in touch with him on the rest of the cricuit :indiff:
 
well after about 3 hours of pulling my hair out.

i got a 1.48.995!!!!! in the road car.

i haven't touched my 1.37.16x in 2 weeks so 36.xxx will definitely be on.

total time 3.26.1xx
 
After another run in the normal car I came up with a 1'47.999. :D
The tuned car is still at a 1'35.786.
 
After taking a few much-needed days off (to preserve my sanity :lol: )
I went back to the stock car tonight and after several hours managed to get down to a 1'47.945. Nothing special really, considering so many have gone so much faster in that car, but I did find out something interesting that may help some others who are struggling with this combo...

In Prologue, I have gotten very comfortable with weak FFB settings.
With the DFGT I had FFB at 2 or 3 depending on the car, and at 1 on the G27, due to the FFB being a little stronger in that wheel. I had been running FFB at 1 with the G27 in the demo until tonight. But after struggling again tonight in the stock Z, I decided to try stronger FFB and see if that would help.
I raised FFB to 3, and within 5 laps, I got the '47.945 lap--just a little while ago.

I think that many of you out there who are accustomed to weaker FFB in Prologue might benefit from raising the FFB a little in the demo. I know it definitely helped for me. In particular, it really seems to help with the righthander before the infield straight--I have a better feel of how soon I can apply full throttle. Also, at the turn 9/10/11 complex, the stronger feedback helps keep the car steady through there. I'm finally starting to figure out that smooth, steady inputs are critical in the stock Z, especially in the final few turns.

Just thought I'd share this in the hopes that somebody finds it helpful 👍
Crank up that FFB a little ;)
 
Ive gotten down to 1:37.161 in the tuned but its boggling my mind how you guys are able to put down the power so fast and so early.

Are you sliding the car into the corner and letting that slow you down? I see barely any braking and you are not only making the corner, you seem stable and able to put down the power incredibly early.

What am I missing? I've actually raced cars (skip barber regional and national series) and I just cannot comprehend how you can take the corners SOOO much faster and smoother.

I realize it sounds like whining, its not, Im incredibly impressed with the top time thats over 2 seconds faster. I can see where I lose the speed but I dont know how to recover it.

Are you using a lot of steering input? I hardly ever go more than 180 degrees and thats only for the back to back hairpins. And in the left hand hairpin just before the last corner which leads onto the main straight I see when you guys accelerate but I simply cannot make the car either not spin or track out into the curb.

Any insight..... User name on PS network is the same as my user name here.
 
Basically it comes down to honouring the momentum of the car and the weight shift, keeping it pointing in the right direction and not unbalancing the car.. Hard to explain. But Dan (MarkWebber) has already posted some good tips in this thread.. look for his posts a few pages back. Also keeping on the clean line is important.

And most importantly, more laps, more laps.. :)
 
Zoli007
What am I missing? I've actually raced cars (skip barber regional and national series) and I just cannot comprehend how you can take the corners SOOO much faster and smoother
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Don't drive as you drive in real life racing. Imagine you're driving an UFO.
 
GEORGE_GR33
Don't drive as you drive in real life racing. Imagine you're driving an UFO.
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My advice would also be that it helps if you keep a good attitude, opposite of the example above here. :dopey: When you're frustrated, there's not much you can do, for sure you wont get any faster that way.
 
GEORGE_GR33
Don't drive as you drive in real life racing. Imagine you're driving an UFO.
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Smooth seems to be the key Zoli, one thing I'm finding is less brake, or easing of the brake slowly as to not distub the car, helps get on full throttle sooner.
 
Zoli007
Are you using a lot of steering input? I hardly ever go more than 180 degrees and thats only for the back to back hairpins. And in the left hand hairpin just before the last corner which leads onto the main straight I see when you guys accelerate but I simply cannot make the car either not spin or track out into the curb.
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I'm certainly not one of the fast guys but FWIW. I'm not using that much steering input even in that section. Smooth acceleration out of the final hairpin in second gear. If I floor it it always means a spin. I've also found that a slightly slower entry speed into the corner before the back straight means I can get on the throttle earlier and in the end reach a higher speed on the straight.

Even so I am still owned by Timppaq each eand every lap already in the turn in to the very first corner. I just can't figure out how you can get through that section so quickly. Over half of the roughly 1,5 seconds between us is lost in the very first corner.
 
Its incredibly annoying to see a ghost go through the same section so much faster in what is what exact same car.

Its super smooth and yet also very aggresive. My trouble seems to be when I try to be as smooth as possible Im not as fast, when I try to be more aggressive i spin due to stupid stuff.

This is my biggest pet peeve with this game. Its so hard to catch oversteer with it. I know I sound like the typical internet tough guy but Im dead serious when I say I know how to drift. Oversteer is absolutely no problem in my car, but in this game Im horrible at it. I can catch little stuff here & there but if the car gets out of shape at the limit most of time its gone.

And Im not talking about I've braked 30 feet too late type spin outs, Im talking the car is barely sliding and I correct but its not enough, or just a little too much throwing it into a tank slapper.

I think Im just frustrated now that I've been at this for 3 hours and I still havent even matched my best time yet.... And It blows my mind how even in 3rd gear the car still gives me wheelspin coming out of that tight hairpin... but in some of the replays I watch, they take waht looks like the same line at roughly the same speed and they go to full throttle and hold it way before I can.

More time more time more time (its just annoying heh)
 
My personal weakness is that when I focus too much on the times I tend to mess up as soon when I see a split time that is .xx seconds faster then my fastest laptime. Especialy in the last sector.
As soon as I think "this is the one" I usually make a stupid mistake and loose that time.
 
Reneetje
My personal weakness is that when I focus too much on the times I tend to mess up as soon when I see a split time that is .xx seconds faster then my fastest laptime. Especialy in the last sector.
As soon as I think "this is the one" I usually make a stupid mistake and loose that time.
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LOL YES!!! Im the same way. Oh well, I've had more than enough for one evening, going to bed, frustrated and confused.
 

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