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Well I know he THINKS he knows what he's talking about, but he's wrong. First of all, fluid motion is fluid motion. The CONSISTENCY of said fluid motion is far more important than some peak framerate. As long as the frame rate remains consistent then most people will not notice a problem.

If I could be bothered looking some up I'm sure I could find several examples of games that remain at a consistent 30fps, and look perfectly smooth into the bargain. If you've got a framerate that goes up and down, then you WILL notice framerate anomalies that will make the game seem less fluid than it should. If its constant, then there is no problem to notice. Catch my drift? Doesn't make a difference whether you are a Master Chief, A Michael Schumacher, or a blonde with impossibly large breasts fighting a kung fu expert in a temple. It just doesn't, and if you think about it for even a moment, you'll understand why.

As a matter of fact, re-reading his post makes me wonder if he thinks that GT5 would be even better if it was 150fps, or 200fps, you know, cos you're going faster and all, there's gotta be more frames right? Right?


Yes in racing games, the more FPS the better. Because of high speeds car drive...

agree with me or not, but thats the philosophy for racing games. Going down 150 mph down the race track, with 30 FPS the speed of sense will be greater and more fake. everything will just appear faster.. with 60FPS you get way better experience more natural speed of sense.


here is link that a real life PROFFESIONAL game maker thinks about 30 VS 60 FPS..
and you say that I have no clue what I am talking about...
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/05/forza-3-director-on-60fps-gran-turismo-5/

30 FPS in a racing game is huge NO NO!!!
 
Pot, kettle, black :rolleyes:.
Not really, my opinion is based of the 1000+ car enthusiasts I've conversed with over the past 10 years at car meets, races, events. I've found "car people" to not really talk about cars in their daily lives. It's usually everything but. I've had my non-car friends point out that when they hang out with me and my car buddies, even when working on cars, we don't talk about them. Again, opinion based on my experiences.
^ That's a car nerd!

Someone who is into cars, knows a lot about cars in general, and dreams of owning some car in the future is a card nerd....

You're right. I got nerd and enthusiast backwards. Nerds, by definition, don't actually partake in the physical activity they are "nerding" out about. I was one before so I mean no disrespect. Sorry.

I wouldn't classify those people as car nerds but rather people whose livelihood involves cars. Some of them might be passionate about cars but it's not usually the case. Car nerds on the other hand, as the the word (nerd) implies, pursue the interest with ardent fervour usually with no monetary implication.

I'll respectfully disagree.
 
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Not really, my opinion is based of the 1000+ car enthusiasts I've conversed with over the past 10 years at car meets, races, events. I've found "car people" to not really talk about cars in their daily lives.

I'm a car guy, and I talk about cars all the time. Of course cars are my life. My car, I work in a shop, I come home and play GT or watch SPEED, go to track days on weekends or watch more racing on TV. Cars 24/7.
 
I'm a car guy, and I talk about cars all the time. Of course cars are my life. My car, I work in a shop, I come home and play GT or watch SPEED, go to track days on weekends or watch more racing on TV. Cars 24/7.

To be honest, that's how I was when I worked as a tech. I didn't even notice when I stopped being that way. One day someone just told me I don't blab on about cars any more.
Me from 2-3 years ago would be disagreeing with me and my current view on the matter.
 
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I have a weird feeling this E3 won't even be much of a show either.

Think about it this way: Last year, in 2009, we thought the opposite. We though it would be great. We thought it would be THE event. Was it? No. Not even close.

So now, you're thinking it will be grim. That's natural. That's normal after E3 2009. But what if it's the opposite again? What if it IS the event?

And then I can continue this post and defend myself seriously, but I think the above is enough. :)
 
IMO, I feel mostly for the long term fans and for the programmers who would have probably seen the finish line in sight and then was all of a sudden slapped with "we've gotta put 3d in this game now and make sure it doesn't just look like some last minute add on". The poor programmers have probably been pulling their hair out screaming "I wish you could have told us this from the start, it would have made things alot more easier and less stressful" :crazy:

hang in there everyone, mr sony will want to get paid eventually!

my 2 cents

Well said! Ditto. 👍
 
IMO, I feel mostly for the long term fans and for the programmers who would have probably seen the finish line in sight and then was all of a sudden slapped with "we've gotta put 3d in this game now and make sure it doesn't just look like some last minute add on". The poor programmers have probably been pulling their hair out screaming "I wish you could have told us this from the start, it would have made things alot more easier and less stressful" :crazy:

hang in there everyone, mr sony will want to get paid eventually!

my 2 cents

They show 3D in GT5 very very long time ago in 2008 so they think of it from the beginning (i think).
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate

For the FPS discussion, related to 3D. To give the same FpS, or the same feeling of view-smoothness as it is now, it would require PS3 to produce at 240Hz minimum, wich i believe is not possible atm. 120Hz, is most likely a no-go aswell, but nontheless will be needed for 3D, if i have understood everything right.

What i for one hope is just.

a) They make GT5 3D a seperate game
b) Implentation of 3d havent postponed GT5
c) If its with the normal disc, that its on seperate discs
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate

For the FPS discussion, related to 3D. To give the same FpS, or the same feeling of view-smoothness as it is now, it would require PS3 to produce at 240Hz minimum, wich i believe is not possible atm. 120Hz, is most likely a no-go aswell, but nontheless will be needed for 3D, if i have understood everything right.

What i for one hope is just.

a) They make GT5 3D a seperate game
b) Implentation of 3d havent postponed GT5
c) If its with the normal disc, that its on seperate discs

Um...these are blu-ray discs. The majority of the 50GB is going to be game content. Cars, tracks, parts, the guy that washes your car in GT Auto.

The 3d thing is just another aspect of the graphics engine. Knowing PD they're probably built it half into the 'regular engine' so it wouldn't need to be created from scratch again. It might just be an install option when you stick the game in, maybe (but not very likely) it'll be an in-game option, but I'd bet it's just something you can chose to install, and it won't be huge. Heck, considering it'd be mostly code (no new assets), it'll most likely be as small if not smaller than the GT5TT demo thing.
 
Think about it this way: Last year, in 2009, we thought the opposite. We though it would be great. We thought it would be THE event. Was it? No. Not even close.

So now, you're thinking it will be grim. That's natural. That's normal after E3 2009. But what if it's the opposite again? What if it IS the event?

And then I can continue this post and defend myself seriously, but I think the above is enough. :)

Well there isn't much hype by anyone. And by anyone I mean, PD/Sony letting us know to look out for something big. Although I guess they want to surprise us, there has been no talk of the 'feast'
 
Guys, I noticed a partial roll here in the gamerlive video (Taku Imasaki interview, 01:12).
It is probably normal, but I can't remember such behavior in GT4 or GT5.
 

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Guys, I noticed a partial roll here in the gamerlive video (Taku Imasaki interview, 01:12).
It is probably normal, but I can't remember such behavior in GT4 or GT5.

I think this is an old physics build so it's the same thing we've seen in prologue. Getting hit hard will result in a tilt like that.

I'm almost 100% sure that they full release will have great damage including turn-overs, but not in any of these builds.
 
Guys, I noticed a partial roll here in the gamerlive video (Taku Imasaki interview, 01:12).
It is probably normal, but I can't remember such behavior in GT4 or GT5.

I dont remember exactly but sure is more roll than GT4, besides, GT5 must have a rollover, its 2010!!!!
 
I think this is an old physics build so it's the same thing we've seen in prologue. Getting hit hard will result in a tilt like that.

I'm almost 100% sure that they full release will have great damage including turn-overs, but not in any of these builds.

Thanks phosphor112.
so you saw tilts like that in Prologue? I always saw the 4 wheels on the asphalt, I'll give it a try.
 
Well there isn't much hype by anyone. And by anyone I mean, PD/Sony letting us know to look out for something big. Although I guess they want to surprise us, there has been no talk of the 'feast'
I wouldn't expect any word from Polyphony until the end of May, beginning of June, and I don't expect all that much until E3 itself. How else to you keep journalists interested? By giving out information early, or hoarding it and being coy?

By the way, this is the "Latest News and General Discussion Thread," in case some people have forgotten the title. ;)
 
Thanks phosphor112.
so you saw tilts like that in Prologue? I always saw the 4 wheels on the asphalt, I'll give it a try.

Its really nothing new, just take the Citroen GT or another extremly fast car and drive full speed on Daytona ...then crash into the wall when turning and you should get that effect.

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Sorry but that's BS :lol:
Mass Effect 3 on PS3? :confused:
Fahrenheit 2? Forza 4? Bad Company 3?

Those are the games on the list that we 100 percent won't see at this year's E3 :)
Plus the source for this is a russian site, from where does a russian site get information like this? :lol:
 
Well, after all this time is seems difficult to think that GT5 will actually have a GT-mode; I know it will since this was confirmed. But can you imagine? Driving around with great graphics, cockpitview, damage, great tuning possibilities, great tracks, weather ect.

It's difficult to imagine that we'll be getting all that in one great package...if only they'd show us already :)

Guess that's the PD way, heck i KNOW that's the PD way. After GT1 they apparently decided it was a good strategy...:)

I simply hope PD deliver with an awesome product in the end, one that not only blows the competition away but also raises the bar and becomes a benchmark.
 
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I simply hope PD deliver with an awesome product in the end, one that not only blows the competition away but also raises the bar and becomes a benchmark.


I'm pretty sure this has been PD's goal all the time.., and I expect they will deliver.
This thread is almost 3 years old now and over 600 (!) pages long..., the wait is almost over ( I hope).
 
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Well, after all this time is seems difficult to think that GT5 will actually have a GT-mode; I know it will since this was confirmed. But can you imagine? Driving around with great graphics, cockpitview, damage, great tuning possibilities, great tracks, weather ect.

It's difficult to imagine that we'll be getting all that in one great package...if only they'd show us already :)

Guess that's the PD way, heck i KNOW that's the PD way. After GT1 they apparently decided it was a good strategy...:)

I simply hope PD deliver with an awesome product in the end, one that not only blows the competition away but also raises the bar and becomes a benchmark.

Respecfully i disagree, look, all the GT tittles has basically the same structure, well know by the majority of us, arcade, gt mode, car lots, garage, photo stages, championships, sunday cup, etc, all of GTs.

IMO, for the new tittle its again, basically the same, but, the big change comes with the online, Kaz says that be the srongest point at the development time(all this besides the blow head graphics).

I repeat to tired, i spect GT4 with superb graphics, damage and online.

Sorry my english.
 
I know buddy, that is not what I meant; what I meant was that it's been a while since we had a great GT-mode, lastly being GT4. That's all. I agree with what you said but I was alluding to the simple fact that it's been a while :)
 
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I know buddy, that is not what I meant; what I meant was that it's been a while since we had a great GT-mode, lastly being GT4. That's all. I agree with what you said but I was alluding to the simple fact that it's been a while :)

Hehe, im not the best english reader:dopey:
 
Touche :) Gues I'm being optimistic, let me rephrase: GT5 might be there, or may not be there in any shape or form, be it in a physical appearance or or digital appearance or any other multi-media fashion, without confirmation by Sony or PD, not withstanding that even then it might not be shown at E3 or any other gaming convention or convention of any other sort, nor is there confirmation that the game will be released this year or any other year, nor that the the title is a game or will be released.
 
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