Dragon's Tuning Thread - Spec II is Coming!

Dragonthing · Jun 15, 2011

Dragon's Workshop - Moved to RKM for Spec II!

Hey there, I'm dragon, and this is my old tuning thread! Here you'll find my pre-Spec II tunes.
This is also the home of the first 1962 Skyline Coupe tune, the first Jaguar XF-R tune, and the first Dome-Zero tune too!

I can now be contacted on MSN, add me at: purpledragonthing@hotmail.co.uk
and I am now posting tunes here: RKM Motorsport

NOTE: All tunes use colour-coding. Key:
Fully Customisable Suspension - Items in grey should NOT be purchased; Data not applicable for this car
Sports: Soft or Racing: Soft Tyres - Different colours indicate a choice of parts/settings
Ride Height: -25/-20 - Settings in red have been modified from the original, usually noted

Requests now being taken!

Just click the images to get to each tune

Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2 Carrozzata Da Zagato (CN.AR750106)

Daihatsu Copen Active Top

Daihatsu OFC-12

DOME Dome-Zero Concept

Fiat 500RS

Gran Turismo 350Z RS

Honda 1300 Coupe 9 S
Comfort: Soft Cruiser

Isuzu 4200R Concept

Jaguar XF-R 2010
First tune on GT Planet!

Lexus IS-F Racing Concept

Mazda Eunos Roadster '89
Endurance Special (R1 Tyres)

Mazda RX-7 GT-S

Mitsubishi Evolution Super Rally '03
Super Touring (Racing: Soft) Tarmac Tune

Nissan Silvia S13

Nissan Silvia S13
Drift Tune

Nissan Skyline Sport Coupe (BLRA-3) '62

Nissan Skyline 350GT Sedan
Nismo 350GT tune - Sports: Soft tyres

1958 Subaru 360

Suzuki Cappuccino EA11R

Suzuki Cappuccino EA21RM

Suzuki Cervo Works RS

Suzuki Concept-S2

Suzuki SX4 WRC Racing: Soft Tarmac Tune

Toyota FT-86 G Sports Concept
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TVR Tuscan Speed 6 Clubsport
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Notes: TGTT record for X2010 is 38.879 seconds

Dragonthing · Jun 25, 2011

Suzuki Cervo Works RS

Stats:
Power: 136BHP/7400rpm
Torque: 110lbft/4900rpm
Weight: 723kg
PP: 430

Description: This is Suzuki's latest Works car, the Cervo RS. Following the tradition of Suzuki Works cars, this lightened, more powerful version delivers much improved acceleration and astonishing handling compared to the standard car.
Current speed record: 0.55:300 on Eifel K-Car cup (limited to 126bhp)

Parts:
Chassis Weight Reduction 3
Rigidity Improvment
Window Weight Reduction
Carbon Fibre Bonnet
Sports ECU
Engine Stage 3
Sports Intake Manifold
Racing Air Filter
Sports Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Titanium Racing Exhaust
High RPM Turbo Kit

Fully Customisable Transmission
Clutch: Twin-Plate
Flywheel: Semi-Racing
Carbon Propeller Shaft
Fully Customisable LSD
Fully Customisable Suspension
Racing: Soft tyres

GT Auto:
Choice of wheels
Front Aero B
Wing C

Transmission:
Final: 5.000 (Set First!)
Max Speed: 130 (Set Next!)
1st: 2.500
2nd: 2.000
3rd: 1.500
4th: 1.250
5th: 1.050
6th: 0.900
7th: 0.800

LSD:
Initial: 5
Acceleration: 20
Braking: 5

Suspension:
Height: -25/-25
Springs: 9.6/8.8
Extension: 5/5
Compression: 5/5
Anti-Roll: 2/2
Camber: 0.5/1.0
Toe: 0.00/0.00
Brakes: 10/2

dr_slump · Jun 25, 2011

Dragonthing
Shameless thread bump for the new Cervo tune! New tune is pointless if it's stuck on page four o_o

But it would be much better when you put your tunes in single posts and make a link in the OP.
If you don't know exactly what I mean, check some other garages.

XDesperado67 · Jun 25, 2011

dr_slump
But it would be much better when you put your tunes in single posts and make a link in the OP.
If you don't know exactly what I mean, check some other garages.

And some of us don't have the ability to do that easily or at all Doc.

Nice looking Cervo there Dragonthing! Welcome to pit road.

Dragonthing · Jun 25, 2011

XDesperado67
And some of us don't have the ability to do that easily or at all Doc.

Nice looking Cervo there Dragonthing! Welcome to pit road.

I only have one tune at the moment, I was kinda waiting until I had something substantial to split up. And have you tried this beast out yet? Managed to get a 0.55:300 on the Eifel K Car championship (limited to 420PP)

XDesperado67 · Jun 25, 2011

Dragonthing
I only have one tune at the moment, I was kinda waiting until I had something substantial to split up. And have you tried this beast out yet? Managed to get a 0.55:300 on the Eifel K Car championship (limited to 420PP)

Sorry no I haven't given it a spin yet. Sorta partial to my tune of the Daihatsu Cuore/Mira TR-XX. I'll give your setup a spin in a bit though.

One thing just looking at your tune is you can shave a few tenths off your time by removing/not adding the rear wing. The wing costs you twice, once by adding PP that you have to make up in either HP or weight, and second in extra wind resistance/drag that costs you 1-2 mph on the longer straights at Eifel. Of course it does look cool, my original Cervo had the carbon front aero carbon hood and wing 3. The car was that sweet purple color they come in.

Note: You don't list if you use a turbo, I'd say with the HP your using a High RPM turbo.
Also you don't list what you have the wing set to and how you reduce PP to 420. I'm setting my wing to 5 and adding 10 kg at position 50 to reach 420PP.
Have High RPM turbo installed, everything else is as you have it listed. Will give it a run now.

Dragonthing · Jun 25, 2011

XDesperado67
Sorry no I haven't given it a spin yet. Sorta partial to my tune of the Daihatsu Cuore/Mira TR-XX. I'll give your setup a spin in a bit though.

One thing just looking at your tune is you can shave a few tenths off your time by removing/not adding the rear wing. The wing costs you twice, once by adding PP that you have to make up in either HP or weight, and second in extra wind resistance/drag that costs you 1-2 mph on the longer straights at Eifel. Of course it does look cool, my original Cervo had the carbon front aero carbon hood and wing 3. The car was that sweet purple color they come in.

Note: You don't list if you use a turbo, I'd say with the HP your using a High RPM turbo.
Also you don't list what you have the wing set to and how you reduce PP to 420. I'm setting my wing to 5 and adding 10 kg at position 50 to reach 420PP.
Have High RPM turbo installed, everything else is as you have it listed. Will give it a run now.

I'm glad you pointed out that I missed the Turbo from my list :dunce:

and I'll have a play with no spoiler, see what that does for the car

Good luck!

XDesperado67 · Jun 25, 2011

Okay just ran 5 races on the Eifel K cup with Dragonthings Cervo setup.
As expected the car feels light and very responsive the mark of a good Kei car tune. It's been quite some time since I've driven this car and so my less than stellar driving skills affected my laptimes more. Was able to turn best lap times in the mid 0:57 range with plenty of room for improvement on my part.
The good parts are the transmission which helps this car accelerate very nicely and even with the added weight for PP restriction and drag from the wing I was able to get it up to 112 mph on the downhill straight. Very smooth and easy to control this would be a good choice for anyone new to the game or with limited driving skills to get sub 3 minute times on this course with.
Couple of things that I feel could be improved; With current setup the car feels like its turning on a pivot placed at the rear end of the vehicle, a personal thing but I prefer my cars to feel like they are rotating in the middle. Think this may be in part because of the extra downforce of the wing so maybe removing it would help that feeling as well. Secondly as much as I like the transmission setup I think that if it was fine tuned to be a closer match to the actual top speed the car achieves on this course it could probably shave another tenth or two off the lap times. Would aim for an adjusted top speed of around 118mph and the car should be able to reach about 114-115 mph on that downhill straight.
Overall this is a good tune for this car and a real pleasure to drive.👍👍

Drewsifer3x · Jun 25, 2011

I wish the premium suzuki kei was the alto... Never the less this car is fun! Before I try out your tune, I want to clarify (not that it matters much) but are you using the body colored hood? Its the cf one in the pic.

Dragonthing · Jun 26, 2011

@Desperado
Thanks very much for testing my tune

I definitely see what you mean about the turning pivot, the car does feel a little odd. I shall try removing the wing to correct this. I'll try and get a slightly longer gearbox tune posted up too, I know the current one was mainly set up for Eiger and the Eifel circuit.

@Drewsifer
Completely up to you! I used one of the Enkei wheels too, but it's down to what you think looks best

XDesperado67 · Jun 26, 2011

Your very welcome Dragonthing

Was wondering if your getting involved in the FF Summer Shootout I'm hosting? If not I was wondering if you could help me sort out my gears as you seem to have the touch and I'm basically clueless on them.

Regardless would love to have you do a transmission job on my "Pocket Monster" Cuore/Mira tune.

colepepper · Jun 26, 2011

Just tried out this setup online at Tsukuba Circuit. First off the handling is amazing. It delivers good grip and virtually no understeer. (I hate understeer basically more than anything so big plus there). The transmission settings were good too, providing smooth acceleration and did a good job of keeping the engine in the optional torque range. I did not notice anything too unusual with the wing fitted (set to 5). So overall very good tune however I do see some potential issues with the transmission on courses with longer straights. Keep up the good work!

Dragonthing · Jun 27, 2011

XDesperado67
Your very welcome Dragonthing

Was wondering if your getting involved in the FF Summer Shootout I'm hosting? If not I was wondering if you could help me sort out my gears as you seem to have the touch and I'm basically clueless on them.

Regardless would love to have you do a transmission job on my "Pocket Monster" Cuore/Mira tune.

I'd be very happy to help out with whatever you need

Unfortunately I won't be able to take part in the summer shootout, I have to share both PS3s so I can't guarantee I'll ever be online

XDesperado67 · Jun 27, 2011

Dragonthing
I'd be very happy to help out with whatever you need Unfortunately I won't be able to take part in the summer shootout, I have to share both PS3s so I can't guarantee I'll ever be online

Great send me a friend request on PSN and I'll send you one of my "Pocket Monsters" set up for the Lightweight K Cup seasonals today. So you can check it out and see about tuning its transmission. Currently hits 118-119 mph on the downhill straight of the Eifel track. Think it could accelerate out of the corners a bit better though.
Also if your up to it I'll send you my FF shootout car in a day or so to have a look at its transmission.
Afraid I'm clueless on setting them up and I can't access the resources available on here because I'm only online with my cell phone. (It functions as a Mobil hotspot for the PS3.)

CyKosis1973 · Jun 27, 2011

Oh, splendid, someone who has had a proper crack at the CERVO gearbox. I'll give your ratios a try on my little Kei Car Grinder, if you don't mind.

Great little car this one, you run as much wing as you like... :sly:

{Cy}

Onboy123 · Jun 27, 2011

XDesperado, the shootout does not allow for the tuner to ask for help in tuning his car! By doing so you are violating the unwritten rules of the FF summer shootout, therefore your entry in said shootout is canceled

And yay! More kei-cars tunes, perhaps this could take part in our 'Super-Kei-car' challenge which will take place nearly straight after the FF shootout!

XDesperado67 · Jun 27, 2011

Onboy123
XDesperado, the shootout does not allow for the tuner to ask for help in tuning his car! By doing so you are violating the unwritten rules of the FF summer shootout, therefore your entry in said shootout is canceled
And yay! More kei-cars tunes, perhaps this could take part in our 'Super-Kei-car' challenge which will take place nearly straight after the FF shootout!

Uhm...AdrinaJunkie, your buddies from MFT, need I go on?
And I fully intend to give Dragonthing full credit on any tunes she helps me with.

Onboy123 · Jun 27, 2011

Well……the Adrenaline Junkie is there purely because RJ's PS3 is crapped up, Leonidae helped Jackthalad to show him where to improve, but didn't do the setup for him, while you are getting the setup for the gears from someone, without changing anything! Anyways, what happened to your 'I'm Adolf Hitler and I have every right to do what I want because I'm a dictator' attitude? And there aren't really any rules to the challenge anyways

XDesperado67 · Jun 27, 2011

Onboy123
Wellthe Adrenaline Junkie is there purely because RJ's PS3 is crapped up, Leonidae helped Jackthalad to show him where to improve, but didn't do the setup for him, while you are getting the setup for the gears from someone, without changing anything! Anyways, what happened to your 'I'm Adolf Hitler and I have every right to do what I want because I'm a dictator' attitude? And there aren't really any rules to the challenge anyways

Excuses, excuses...Now get back to the shootout where you belong and quit spamming up Dragonthing's garage. :mischievous:

Onboy123 · Jun 27, 2011

No, cuz I'm actually interested in this car, so I shall stay

Dragonthing · Jun 27, 2011

Onboy123
XDesperado, the shootout does not allow for the tuner to ask for help in tuning his car! By doing so you are violating the unwritten rules of the FF summer shootout, therefore your entry in said shootout is canceled
And yay! More kei-cars tunes, perhaps this could take part in our 'Super-Kei-car' challenge which will take place nearly straight after the FF shootout!

I like the sound of that challenge! Maybe I should iron out my OFC-1 and stop it from understeering so bad...I love the sound of it! That should be my next upload, hopefully followed by my 200+bhp Copen

XDesperado67 · Jun 27, 2011

Dragonthing
I like the sound of that challenge! Maybe I should iron out my OFC-1 and stop it from understeering so bad...I love the sound of it! That should be my next upload, hopefully followed by my 200+bhp Copen

I love the Copen!

One of my original goals that I've been to busy to pursue lately is to get my Copen under 8 minutes on Nürburgring Nordschleife. Best so far is 8:20.xxx but both my driving and tuning skills have improved since then!

Onboy123 · Jun 27, 2011

Well, just so you know, the 'super-kei-car' challenge is where you have to tune a kei car to rival a super car, hence super kei car

So if I were you, I'd choose wisely, because whoever can lap a test track with the smallest gap between the supercar and the kei wins!

Dragonthing · Jun 29, 2011

Update: Good news! My Copen tune is coming on pretty well, cornering is improving slowly despite my 'skills,' and I may have managed to improve on the premium Advan Impreza GT300 racecar

anyone got any requests or questions?

XDesperado67 · Jun 29, 2011

Any chance you could send me a friend request on PSN so I could gift you one of my Daihatsu Cuore TR-XXs for a gear job? It's all set up to run sub 2:50.xxx in the lightweight Eifel race but think with a proper transmission we could shave a little more time off. Need to get it out of the corners a little faster. Probably can't get a much higher top speed on that track and still hit the corners properly though as its currently running between 118-120mph on the downhill straight after the first turn.

Dragonthing · Jun 30, 2011

Daihatsu Copen Active Top

Stats:
Power: 202BHP/8400rpm
Torque: 138lbft/5400rpm
Weight: 732kg
PP: 471

Description: So here it is! Finally ironed out my Daihatsu and this little thing is ready to kick some butt! Surprisingly quick on the Nürburgring and far too cute not to win every single race ever*. The setup is largely neutral, has good turning speed but feels ever so slightly odd...any tips are welcome!

*Not Guaranteed to win every race ever but damn fast anyway ^_^

Parts:
Chassis Weight Reduction 3
Rigidity Improvment
Window Weight Reduction
Carbon Fibre Bonnet (Body Colour)

Sports ECU
Engine Stage 3
Sports Intake Manifold
Racing Air Filter
Sports Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Titanium Racing Exhaust
High RPM Turbo Kit

Fully Customisable Transmission
Clutch: Twin-Plate
Flywheel: Semi-Racing
Carbon Propeller Shaft
Fully Customisable LSD
Fully Customisable Suspension
Racing: Soft tyres

GT Auto:
Choice of wheels

Transmission:
Final: 5.000 (Set First!)
Max Speed: 149 (Set Next!)
1st: 2.500
2nd: 1.750
3rd: 1.300
4th: 1.000
5th: 0.800

LSD:
Initial: 7
Acceleration: 15
Braking: 5

Suspension:
Height: -15/-5
Springs: 9.0/10.0
Extension: 5/5
Compression: 4/4
Anti-Roll: 2/2
Camber: 2.5/2.0
Toe: 0.00/0.00
Brakes: 4/6

XDesperado67 · Jun 30, 2011

Just sent you the Cuore TR-XX. That's yours to keep by the way.

Just post the transmission settings up when you get them.

Your Copen looks good. What's your time on Nürburgring with it?

Dragonthing · Jun 30, 2011

XDesperado67
Just sent you the Cuore TR-XX. That's yours to keep by the way. Just post the transmission settings up when you get them.

Your Copen looks good. What's your time on Nürburgring with it?

No idea!

spent so much time running the first 1/4 of Nordschleife that I don't think I have completed a lap in it's final tune. And thanks very much for the car ^_^ already tried it out and it's a fun tune, trying my best to get it round as fast as it should be!

XDesperado67 · Jun 30, 2011

Dragonthing
No idea! spent so much time running the first 1/4 of Nordschleife that I don't think I have completed a lap in it's final tune. And thanks very much for the car ^_^ already tried it out and it's a fun tune, trying my best to get it round as fast as it should be!

HeHe

I know how it is when your tuning and not always completing laps.

Forgot to ask do you drive automatic or manual transmission? If you drive a manual you might at some point swap the high rpm turbo in the Cuore for a mid rpm turbo. It will create more HP and a lot more torque so you'll have to further limit the engine. The extra torque, and its a lot, should be good for acceleration, but you have a very peaky power curve with all that HP and torque coming on very early (around 5000 rpm I believe) and then droping off drastically to redline. It's because of the power curve that I chose the high rpm turbo for use with automatic transmission, which is how I drive.

Dragonthing · Jun 30, 2011

XDesperado67
HeHe I know how it is when your tuning and not always completing laps.

Forgot to ask do you drive automatic or manual transmission? If you drive a manual you might at some point swap the high rpm turbo in the Cuore for a mid rpm turbo. It will create more HP and a lot more torque so you'll have to further limit the engine. The extra torque, and its a lot, should be good for acceleration, but you have a very peaky power curve with all that HP and torque coming on very early (around 5000 rpm I believe) and then droping off drastically to redline. It's because of the power curve that I chose the high rpm turbo for use with automatic transmission, which is how I drive.

Depends on the car really, usually I drive auto in something like the Cervo because it can drop all 7 gears in about 2 seconds. I only drive manual when the car needs it, like the Volvo S60 T-5 which actually has over 1000rpm useable above the auto shift point.

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