TT 35: Laguna Seca (SUSPENDED) & Chamonix West. [Post 1 for tunes!]
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I never said the cheaters was right. All I'm saying is those with active steering on do it to put their names on the top of the leaderboard as well. The aids are meant for noobies like me, not for you who're trying to do fast times.
And to Fobia :
Yes that's exactly my point. They won't be able to drive as aggressively as they would with AS off. If they want to put their skills to test, then do it with the same restrictions. That's why I'm saying Dario is the fastest in this TT right now for AS off. If yinato wants to claim fastest title then go ahead, but it's only for AS-on
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- Adrian, Mich.
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Not sure how driving aids got put into discussion here. They have nothing to do with the original discussion which was corner cutting. Don't confuse something that is allowed to be used in these TT's with using a programming flaw as a cheat. Driving aids are not a cheat, corner cutting is.
Having said that, I think the simple way to solve this whole mess is, like I said before, a "report lap" button and give us one certain car to use with no tuning allowed and all driving aids the same for everyone. Whether it be ABS 1 and everything else off or whatever. Should be the same for everyone. That would truely constitute a true test of everyones pure driving skill at running a hot lap. Thats my opinion. Even tho I tune my cars and use ABS 1 and AS on strong, I would be the first in line for this. Thats my view on this whole mess.
Having said that, I think the simple way to solve this whole mess is, like I said before, a "report lap" button and give us one certain car to use with no tuning allowed and all driving aids the same for everyone. Whether it be ABS 1 and everything else off or whatever. Should be the same for everyone. That would truely constitute a true test of everyones pure driving skill at running a hot lap. Thats my opinion. Even tho I tune my cars and use ABS 1 and AS on strong, I would be the first in line for this. Thats my view on this whole mess.
You can't change people, people have their own styles... people use what suits them, and I'm ok with that as long as it's within the rules of the game.
Just use what suits you, whether it'll be active steering, driving line, traction control or ABS, the choice is up to you.
ie. If something is clearly making me faster on a given combo - why should I refrain myself from using it?
Which brings us back to corner cutting. Why the huge outrage against amo earlier when he's clearly within the rules of the game? The 'rules' in these TTs are that the times must be white for them to be valid. That's the one and only rules there is in the TT.
to quote you again
If something is clearly making me faster on a given combo - why should I refrain myself from using it? I'm sure that's the exact thinking behind his doings
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- Lou8ball
Just to link into a thread I started yesterday called leaderboard ideas I think it would be good if there was a filter so we could look at results based on a number of parameters: such as nationality, driving aids (tc, abs, active steering), car used, and also individual sector times.
What are other peoples ideas on this?
Im not saying the overall leaderboard should be changed, but a way of filtering how we look at it - like the option in the gt home garage drop down menu, could give more variety to the competition.
Eg fastest in a particular country or without using abs or traction control.
Sorry to basically post what I have already in my thread, just wasn't sure if it had been read.
Cheers
Louis
What are other peoples ideas on this?
Im not saying the overall leaderboard should be changed, but a way of filtering how we look at it - like the option in the gt home garage drop down menu, could give more variety to the competition.
Eg fastest in a particular country or without using abs or traction control.
Sorry to basically post what I have already in my thread, just wasn't sure if it had been read.
Cheers
Louis
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I can puke now - the very first time i made it into the top100, was pretty sure i will finish within the top250 (would have also been for the first time) - and now its for nothing........
btw. wondering why chamonix is still in......
btw. wondering why chamonix is still in......
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- Adrian, Mich.
- cargorat323
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Just read Famine's post. A big heart felt thanks goes out to all those cheaters that have just wasted my time on this TT. And yes, I said YOU wasted my time because you are the ones that got this event shut down due to your cheating. Great job guys. (big sarcasm) This just proves my point tho to all those people that said, "its not cheating if the game lets you do it" or other related comments. Like I tried to tell all you cheaters before, you are ruining these TT's for the rest of us and tried arguing with me with statements like, " I'll do it how I want". Well, look where your cheating has gotten us. Yes, I'm pissed. I put a good amount of time in this, Thanks again cheaters.
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- Johnnypenso
The TT was cancelled due to the corner cutting...isn't that enough to tell you that it's "cheating"? What else do you want to see for proof? I think PD was watching this forum and the heated argument over ethics and honour and respect is what caused them to change their minds. Great credit should go to Yinato and others for keeping it clean, and especially KB18Fan for his dogged stance in maintaining his position that cutting corners, even if PD allows it by some programming flaw, is still cheating.
This should settle the argument once and for all as to what is and what is not, a "good" lap in a TT. In the future, we have to remain vigilant in bringing these discussions into the light and not sweeping them under the rug and pretending there are no issues with the game and the track boundary programming. Yes it got a little heated, but this is a game that many people are passionate about so that is bound to happen. The end results, the cancelling of this TT, prove that people at PD are listening to the heated discussions, not just the fanboys and guys who can't find anything wrong with this imperfect but still great game!!
Kudos to you KB for leading the charge!!
I was obviously reffering to aids, since cutting destroys the spirit of the competition.
White isn't valid, hence this TT got shut down. So, for you these laps are clean (even though there's blatent cutting involved yet the laps aren't invalidated)?
White isn't a proof that the lap is clean. Contact, off-track and a few other things aren't noticed by GT5's penalty system since it's awful.
But again it's up to the player to have some common sense and see that these time trials are just for a limited period of time, after that they dissapear - so they should have in mind that your reputation lasts longer than an ordinary seasonal time trial.
But, who am I to preach, do as you like - just don't expect respect to be handed out just because you're #1.
dariOPC is a great driver, so is Yinato. 👍
I hear traction control and stability management make you go faster....keep that in mind when I start running WRS again
Ssshhh....nobody tell him these assists are the culprits for slowing you down on GT5
I had TCS in mind when I ran Week 64. 💡
But it killed the acceleration so much that it wasn't worth it. I packed that Cobra full of aids I was embarrased of myself.
ABS 10, active steering strong, driving line... 
Anyways, I'm awaiting that next arcade mode combo, beware!
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- Adrian, Mich.
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It was removed when the announcement went out - if you don't have a replay saved you can't access it now.
If you have saved one, it might be worth uploading the replay to Youtube too, for an extra bit of name'n'shame
I have two replays saved of the short cuts but not sure if I can be of help as I am only running off my ps3 and no computer.
The TT was cancelled due to the corner cutting...isn't that enough to tell you that it's "cheating"? What else do you want to see for proof? I think PD was watching this forum and the heated argument over ethics and honour and respect is what caused them to change their minds. Great credit should go to Yinato and others for keeping it clean, and especially KB18Fan for his dogged stance in maintaining his position that cutting corners, even if PD allows it by some programming flaw, is still cheating.
This should settle the argument once and for all as to what is and what is not, a "good" lap in a TT. In the future, we have to remain vigilant in bringing these discussions into the light and not sweeping them under the rug and pretending there are no issues with the game and the track boundary programming. Yes it got a little heated, but this is a game that many people are passionate about so that is bound to happen. The end results, the cancelling of this TT, prove that people at PD are listening to the heated discussions, not just the fanboys and guys who can't find anything wrong with this imperfect but still great game!!
Kudos to you KB for leading the charge!!
Excuse me? Amo was not driving through the pit lane shortcut when some guys was bitching about him for cutting corners..Go read the earlier pages. The first one to do it was the star guy from JP and that's the reason why PD pulled this TT out, not Amo
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