4K resolution?
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TheeFrogmanlego
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ITS A FACT Sony said the PS4 WILL NOT PLAY 4K GAMES , only support 4k movies and pictures..
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I'm happy with 720p honestly. Even 480p is acceptable. Some people are never satisfied.
Lain
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If by "huge benefit", you mean being able to notice the extra detail of 4K, then yes you're correct.
But you're ignoring the point I made earlier regarding how increased resolution makes image blemishes (aliasing, compression artifacts, etc) smaller and thus less perceptible. And this effect, unlike the ability to see extra detail, actually works better the smaller the screen is.
So yes, you won't notice more detail. But edges of objects in videogames (assuming they're being rendered at 4k) will look cleaner without the need for antialiasing, hi-res JPEG images will look much better because the compression artifacts will only be a quarter as noticable as they were on a 1080p display of the same size and distance, and the difference between 4K streaming video and 4K video on Blu-ray won't be as noticable as the difference between 1080p due to the video compression artifacts being smaller.
I've looked at a good Blu-Ray on a 60" HDTV close up and not noticed any compression artifacts. It's clean as a whistle and certainly from normal viewing distance you certainly wouldn't notice any. Of course they appear on some shoddy releases but that isn't Blu-Rays fault and if the studio hasn't bothered to encode a Blu-Ray properly they likely wouldn't bother encoding a 4k version properly either.
I can certainly understand the benefits when it comes to video games but are people going to buy a 4K TV just for that benefit, many not even aware of what aliasing is or don't notice it? Just look at all the people not noticing it on the GT6 demo.
I can certainly understand the benefits when it comes to video games but are people going to buy a 4K TV just for that benefit, many not even aware of what aliasing is or don't notice it? Just look at all the people not noticing it on the GT6 demo.
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Quakebass
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It depends on what you're watching. If I'm on YouTube, 480 is fine, but I'm also partly limited by my Internet speed. I've been able to watch in 720 elsewhere, but it just looks SO much nicer. And I've seen 480 and 720 up scaled on 1080 screens, and I'm able tell the difference. 1080 just looks so much more crisp. I'm on an iPad 3 with retina display right now, and it's phenomenal. I remember getting my MacBook Pro in 2011, being impressed with the pixel density, but now this blows it out of the water. I've see (I believe) the ~2.7k displays available on the newer MacBooks, and again, they just look SO much nicer, even from a difference. At least for me. A 4k screen will look even better. And using iPhone apps on the iPad allows me to upscale the app, making it 4x bigger (2x wide and 2x tall). Even with the retina display, I can see the pixelation from the upscale, and 4k won't be too different.
4k will become affordable and the mainstream, eventually, just as HD is now. Remember when 1080 TV's were a few thousand dollars? I certainly do. And we were broadcasting WVGA, now were doing full 1080. I'm betting we'll end up the same way with 4k. And I'm still on an old WVGA tube. Cameras are supporting 4k video (like my GoPro Hero 3 Black), and we're going to need something to support it.
4k may not happen in this generation of gaming, but I'd bet my money on next gen. Maybe some exploration with it this gen, sort of like the PS2 GT's 1080i experimentations. Then full 4k on PS5.
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In my view, 4K is a white elephant just like 3D. Too much money and too little content, then when it does get affordable, it is out of date.
By the time the PS5 comes out 8K will be the standard.
By the time the PS5 comes out 8K will be the standard.
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Maybe not going away, but I wouldn't say we are currently moving towards it either. I an an electronics engineer and for the past 13 years have been chief broadcast engineer at a cable company. For those of us in the industry the tech is unofficially "on hold" at the moment.
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Yes it will play 4K resolution movies IF you have a 4K Ultra HDTV which costs the same as a brand new decent car.
So it is useless as of today, tomorrow...and some more years to come until one of those TV´s can be bought by normal people and not just rich people.
Also for the rest here...use your head...check the Hardware specifications inside of the PS4...go check in the internet how a PC works and what can you do with the best components...its prices and such...then think, meditate and whatever...IF one day we will be able to play games in 4K resolution in a console.
Just in case I may answer that for you: NO.
This type of thread gets deep on my nerves.
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Seiki is one of the companies that is sort of pushing it, considering the prices of their Native UHD TV prices. How does a 50" UHD TV for $1,114 sound?
EDIT: BTW, Seiki is releasing a 39" model for $699, but sadly, the refresh rate is at a mere 30 Hz (rumored).
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Seiki is one of the companies that is sort of pushing it, considering the prices of their Native UHD TV prices. How does a 64" UHD TV for $1,700 sound.
I wonder if they sell 42" UHD TV for half that price ... $800 ?
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Check the edit I posted.
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Maybe in a year or two
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Seiki is one of the companies that is sort of pushing it, considering the prices of their Native UHD TV prices. How does a 50" UHD TV for $1,114 sound?
Not nearly as appealing to me as a 60" HDTV for $300 less when I have 250 HD channels at home to watch and 0 UHD channels, I will choose the screen size over res any day with the programming I have available and so will most consumers.
Yes, the tv's have been dropping in price and I hear Sony is coming out with a UHD disk player soon which is fine if enough movie production companies invest in UHD gear to make the movies. Problem with that scenario is that the vast majority of people have gone away from disk based movies and chosen stream based services like Hulu, Netflix etc. Most ISP's don't have the bandwidth available for much in the way of UHD and even if they did most consumers don't have the net speeds available to take advantage of it. So until we see fiber to the the home in most locations I wouldn't bet much there either.
For that matter, most cable operators don't have the bandwidth to replace a good chunk of there channels with UHD if it were available. Fiber is great, but it does have it's limits! Again, until we have fiber to the home, the final stretch is going to be copper which severely limits your bandwidth.
Seiki is one of the companies that is sort of pushing it, considering the prices of their Native UHD TV prices. How does a 50" UHD TV for $1,114 sound?
EDIT: BTW, Seiki is releasing a 39" model for $699, but sadly, the refresh rate is at a mere 30 Hz (rumored).
Yes and there are two issues there. Firstly Seiki are a cheap Chinese manufacturer and their panels are going to be poor and secondly its the issue above, sit 6ft or more away from a 40" HDTV and you won't see any difference between 4k and 1080p.
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I sit around 4 to 5 feet away from my 32" TV, so does most of me friends when they come over to play games 
I think I'll sit at least 6 feet away with 40" to 50" TV.
I think I'll sit at least 6 feet away with 40" to 50" TV.I sit around 4 to 5 feet away from my 32" TV, so does most of me friends when they come over to play games
..and at that size and distance 4k and 1080p will look pretty much the same. You will only just be getting the full benefit of 1080p at that size and distance.
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Lol you said it all.
Not even need to say anything else.
Have a good day. 👍
PS: But by the way, the day you learn anything related to hardware you should know that 4k in gaming as of today, and mostly with the PS4 hardware is impossible.
Do a little research before posting.
Welcome to GTPlanet as well.
freshseth83
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Lots of opinions in here with hardly any facts. Just wait a few months to see where 4k heads. BTW Sony's new UHDTV's are around $5K- 7k. Not too bad for a 55" and 65" set.
I don't think any of us are denying 4k will arrive in the mainstream eventually, just not yet. You just said it yourself, only the rich can afford a $5k TV, most can't even afford a $2.5k TV and I don't really see them being half price very quickly.
Plus there is the point you have to sell it to them, how are you going to do that?
"So are there 4k Blu-Rays?" No.
"Is 4K HDTV happening soon?" No.
"What 4K content is there then?" Not a lot.
Most people bought HDTVs because of HD broadcasting and HD Blu-Ray/media being widely available. Until 4K is in that position it isn't going to get widespread adoption.
freshseth83
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Rich? You don't have to be rich to buy a $5k TV bud. The other points you made are nice, but pretty pointless in mentioning if you think about the future of the next gen tech push. Sony has the studios to do it and they have a media server with content preloaded plus more in the waiting happening in a few months- like I said. You're talking about the NOW, I'm talking about the near future. I don't get the arguing, I'm more taking a business look at this and seeing the boom Sony can get from it. Couple that with the PS4 and their future is looking up.
Well maybe in Washington you don't but I can assure you generally speaking that is a huge amount of money to the general TV buying public.
4K HDTV is not coming.....ever, they're skipping straight to 8k and yes Sony might be lining up content digitally but it's not enough.
Like I said it will happen eventually but not in the next two or three years. Of course this is just my opinion, as it is yours that differs.
4K HDTV is not coming.....ever, they're skipping straight to 8k and yes Sony might be lining up content digitally but it's not enough.
Like I said it will happen eventually but not in the next two or three years. Of course this is just my opinion, as it is yours that differs.
freshseth83
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Where I live has nothing to do with the affordability of a TV set.
4K is ALREADY HERE so you saying it's not coming is silly. I don't have an 'opinion', I go by the facts. Those facts show you're wrong.
4K is ALREADY HERE so you saying it's not coming is silly. I don't have an 'opinion', I go by the facts. Those facts show you're wrong.
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