$100K Everyday Car Thread (from the GT-R Discussion)

YSSMAN · Dec 26, 2007

So, per request of the mods, its presumably better to do this here. The big question:

You've got $100K, what car do you buy, having to live with it everyday, in all weather and road situations, both in and out of town?

Obviously there are criteria for such:

- Price
- Performance
- Capability (or lack thereof)
- Practicality (or lack thereof)
- Comfort
- Style
- etc

They key word here is EVERYDAY, so this is the car to drive to school, take the wife or the girlfriend out to dinner in, race to Grandma's house for Christmas in four inches of snow, maybe take out to a track day (if applicable), haul the friends (or maybe the kids?) in, etc.

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My personal choice:

The 2009 Pontiac "G8X" GT (Otherwise known as the Holden Sportwagon)

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With the big L76 V8, cylinder deactivation, and a six-speed automatic with manual override... It pretty much offers up enough comfort and style offset with enough sporting equipment to keep me a very happy man. With the right tires, combined with an already "sporty" suspension, it should have enough gusto out on the backroads to keep me happy, and without a doubt, plenty of room for plenty of folks in the back as needed.

Of course, the "regular" saloon version would be fine as well...

exigeracer · Dec 26, 2007

Does this have to be straight from the factory, or can it be something older that has been tinkered with as well?

I would have to drive a variety of vehicles, but most likely it would fall between these two.

BMW M5 wagon

and

Audi RS6 Avant

Pretty simple. All about practicality and enough power to get you down that road in quick style. Wagons are incredibly useful, oftentimes as much room as their SUV counterparts, but with the driving dynamics of the car they are based on. Both cars look awesome, too! The choice would come down to whichever felt lighter and more communicative.

JCE · Dec 26, 2007

I have two and only two choices if I'm choosing to spend $100k USD on a vehicle and no less.

1) http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/cayenne/cayenne-turbo/

In white or black only.

2) http://www.mbusa.com/models/main.do?modelCode=CLS63

In black only.

MagpieRacer · Dec 26, 2007

F1GTR · Dec 26, 2007

exigeracer
Does this have to be straight from the factory, or can it be something older that has been tinkered with as well?

I would have to drive a variety of vehicles, but most likely it would fall between these two.

BMW M5 wagon

<snip>

and

Audi RS6 Avant

<snip>

Pretty simple. All about practicality and enough power to get you down that road in quick style. Wagons are incredibly useful, oftentimes as much room as their SUV counterparts, but with the driving dynamics of the car they are based on. Both cars look awesome, too! The choice would come down to whichever felt lighter and more communicative.

First two cars that came to mind when I saw the thread title. The saloon versions would also be up for consideration, but the estates would be more practical and they both look very nice.

Philly · Dec 26, 2007

or

Off road?

Land%20Rover%20Range%20Rover%20Sport%20Supercharged%20SUV.bmp

Supercharged.

EDIT: exigeracer's RS6 may prove too tempting though....

1X83Z · Dec 26, 2007

Not even a question.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...s=&transmission=&max_price=104000&cardist=300

Venom800tt · Dec 26, 2007

Considering I am single and don't want to be bothered with hauling other people around I'd settle for a nice 997 Carrera S. And there is no snow out here, so I don't need a SUV

I would say a Viper, but the hot exhaust and challenging ingress/egress would put me off if I had to drive it every day more so than the stiff suspension.

1X83Z · Dec 26, 2007

From now on, I will attack every poster in this thread who did not choose the Ferrari 550, and tell him why the Ferrari 550 is better than his choice.

Venom800tt
I'd settle for a nice 997 Carrera S.

You're right, it would be settling, because for just a little more money, you could have a true V-12 supercar, with 485 horsepower and a top speed of over 200mph. Compared to that sissy Porsche that everyone has, I'm sure you'll be coming around to my side soon enough.

Venom800tt · Dec 26, 2007

Well from what I hear Ferraris tend to be a PITA as far as maintenance and reliability go, especially 1990's and before ones. Anyway a 911 is less of a cop magnet here, is a lot cheaper to operate overall, and gets better fuel economy than any Ferrari. Remember, Cali has overpriced fuel compared to the rest of the US...

exigeracer · Dec 26, 2007

The 550 makes little to zero sense in the lifestyle of people who know more than one person who can bear spending more than 4 minutes with them.

Tornado · Dec 26, 2007

550? Pfft.
I'd rather save 30 grand for the extra two parcel shelves. And flip ups.
Then I would grow a mustache. And flip ups.

But in all seriousness:
I'd get this. And then spend the rest of the money on something sane. Like maintenance.

1X83Z · Dec 26, 2007

Venom800tt
Well from what I hear Ferraris tend to be a PITA as far as maintenance and reliability go, especially 1990's and before ones.

Fortunately this isn't 1990s and before! The 550 will run forever.

Anyway a 911 is less of a cop magnet here, is a lot cheaper to operate overall, and gets better fuel economy than any Ferrari. Remember, Cali has overpriced fuel compared to the rest of the US...

Less of a cop magnet? Have you seen a 550? The Porsche is considerably more expressively-styled. As for fuel economy, drive it right. It's got a manual, so if fuel economy is of concern (spending $100k it shouldn't be), you can certainly get decent mileage out of it.

exigeracer
The 550 makes little to zero sense in the lifestyle of people who know more than one person who can bear spending more than 4 minutes with them.

I have read and re-read this sentence, and it still makes no sense.

1X83Z · Dec 26, 2007

Toronado
550? Pfft.
I'd rather save 30 grand for the extra two parcel shelves. And flip ups.
Then I would grow a mustache. And flip ups.

I KNEW you would trot out the 456. Sadly it's an inferior car - less sporting, softer, and many of them have unreliable, ugly automatics. Plus it's boringly-styled, and it's never available in cool colors. More space, yes, but at a higher cost. The 550 is the driver-focused car.

But in all seriousness: I'd get [URL="http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=224924291&dealer_id=6120763&car_year=1992&model=512TR&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&search_lang=&make=FER&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceASC&address=14489&advanced=y&end_year=2008&doors=&transmission=&max_price=100000&cardist=1165"
this[/URL]. And then spend the rest of the money on something sane. Like maintenance.[/SIZE][/FONT]

Engine out service!

ExigeEvan · Dec 26, 2007

M5Power
Not even a question.

*snip*

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...s=&transmission=&max_price=104000&cardist=300

You can't drive a ferrari as a daily unless you make thousands of pounds, daily. A contributor to Evo magazine tried it and it proved soooo damn expensive it was rediculous. Even routine maintenace was rediculous.

Tornado · Dec 26, 2007

M5Power
I KNEW you would trot out the 456. Sadly it's an inferior car - less sporting, softer, and many of them have unreliable, ugly automatics. Plus it's boringly-styled, and it's never available in cool colors. More space, yes, but at a higher cost. The 550 is the driver-focused car.

But it comes with a mustache! And two different sets of flip ups. It essentially a really nice 308 that comes with a 456GT, not the other way around.

Possible, family friendly alternative to 512TR!

1X83Z · Dec 26, 2007

ExigeExcel
You can't drive a ferrari as a daily unless you make thousands of pounds, daily. A contributor to Evo magazine tried it and it proved soooo damn expensive it was rediculous. Even routine maintenace was rediculous.

This is the biggest misconception about Ferrari in existence. After posting on F-chat for the last year, this misconception that I once had has been completely turned around. Now I look forward to Ferrari ownership, instead of cowering in the corner due to maintenance.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=179602
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174183
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159014
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120355
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106423
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92127

These cars CAN be reliably daily driven.

ExigeEvan · Dec 26, 2007

I'm not saying it was unreliable, because it wasn't. But everything from tyres to clutches, to timing belts back to brakes needed replacing or maintaining regualrly.

Venom800tt · Dec 26, 2007

In California a Porsche is much less of a cop magnet than a Ferrari, mainly due to the abundance of them. Plus, Ferrari owners are known for being snobs and jerks

Anyway a 911 will probably outperform a much heavier 550 on a track, which is important since I would plan on taking the car to the track. Anyway it's 182 mph top speed aint THAT slow. Not like I'd ever hit that at a race track anyway.

1X83Z · Dec 26, 2007

Venom800tt
In California a Porsche is much less of a cop magnet than a Ferrari, mainly due to the abundance of them. Plus, Ferrari owners are known for being snobs and jerks
Anyway a 911 will probably outperform a much heavier 550 on a track, which is important since I would plan on taking the car to the track. Anyway it's 182 mph top speed aint THAT slow. Not like I'd ever hit that at a race track anyway.

Honestly, it wouldn't even be close. The 550 would absolutely eat the Carrera S. The Turbo is a closer battle, but 550 vs. Carrera S isn't a comparison.

Remember, the Ferrari has 485hp, does 0-60 in 4.3 seconds, runs to 200mph, and pulls 0.94g on the skidpad. The 355hp Carrera S does 0-60 in 4.7, tops out well below the 550, and pulls only 0.92g on the skidpad. The Ferrari both corners better and accelerates faster.

the Interceptor · Dec 26, 2007

+

I might add that this choice is based on german prices. You wouldn't get the absolute majority of the above posted cars for $100k in Germany. Nevertheless, this does pretty much everything in my book.

exigeracer · Dec 26, 2007

M5Power
I have read and re-read this sentence, and it still makes no sense.

In caveman speech, it's useless if you have mare than one friend.

1X83Z · Dec 26, 2007

the Interceptor
Nevertheless, this does pretty much everything in my book.

Except be a Ferrari! Which is why my 485bhp monster will soon be your choice, too!

exigeracer
In caveman speech, it's useless if you have mare than one friend.

I would've sold all my friends to get the Ferrari!

the Interceptor · Dec 26, 2007

M5Power
Except be a Ferrari! Which is why my 485bhp monster will soon be your choice, too!

I know it sounds weird in terms of being a car nut, but I'd much rather have a 530hp AWD Golf as an everyday car than a 485hp RWD Ferrari.

1X83Z · Dec 26, 2007

the Interceptor
I know it sounds weird in terms of being a car nut, but I'd much rather have a 530hp AWD Golf as an everyday car than a 485hp RWD Ferrari.

Driving dynamics! The Golf may be quick but it's no match for the Ferrari as an overall vehicle.

Race Idiot · Dec 26, 2007

Whoa $100,000 is only £50,000 but i'm v easy to please so here are some results
Booya
Woot
WootyMcBooya
z0r

Maybe when i'm a lil older i'll grow out of wanting a car to be incredibly uncomfortable and deafening but full of woots, booyas and z0r.

Sage · Dec 26, 2007

I mean, it is a hatchback

Okay, seriously, if I had a family and stuff to move and bicycles to carry and yada yada, I really dont know what Id get. Id probably go for my old standby:

I realize thats nowhere near the price cap, but thats as much car as Id ever need.

the Interceptor · Dec 26, 2007

M5Power
Driving dynamics! The Golf may be quick but it's no match for the Ferrari as an overall vehicle.

Agreed. But I need an everyday vehicle that carries up to five people in relative comfort, can carry quite some stuff as well (fold the rear seats down), flawlessly works in every weather condition (including snow) and can be parked outside at night without being stolen or vandalized. And as nice as a Ferrari may be, it doesn't cover that. And I still have a very very quick car, may it not be as fun, agile and alive as a prancing horse.

Philly · Dec 26, 2007

the Interceptor

Meh. I'd rather have a GTI. It only has 30 hp less and the rears don't drive but it doesn't have the big V-6 hanging off the front and it isn't AWD. In the end, the GTI is probably more fun to drive and almost as quick.

Joey D · Dec 26, 2007

I love the 550, it's without a doubt my favourite Ferrari, but to live with everyday I don't think it would be my sort of thing. I have no doubts about reliability or being to expensive to run either, I just do not think I would want a sports car as my daily driver.

Honestly after thinking about it I would probably have a fully loaded BMW X5. I don't really need an SUV but hell why not just get one if you had the money and didn't care about petrol prices?

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