$100K Everyday Car Thread (from the GT-R Discussion)

[McLaren]

Amen brother. If I found myself with that 100 thou, and I also had a decent paying job, I'd probably get a Testarossa since that's the car I want the most and with the rest of the money, a used Evo8 or something like that.

I think the point of the thread is that you live with your Testarossa as a daily driver.

 

[Joey D]

To answer this, I pretty much have even if you're not directing it at me. But I am dead serious that I would use the E92 M3 as an everyday driver. It is easily capable of doing so.

That answer has nothing to do with my statement. The M3 is stock, a modded Seat isn't.

 

[Famine]

The way I look at it is can you take it to the grocery store and get enough food to last you a week? A buddy of mine has a Miata and he can not take it grocery shopping because all that fits in the boot is a case of beer, gallon of milk, and a few other things. Going to the grocery store is something just about all of us do either once a week or every other week (in America mind you).

I can think of numerous situations in which a small sports car would not be practical for daily life and I don't really do anything outrageous.

What?! He's not trying very hard. In the boot of our Mk1 MX-5 you can fit at least 20 shopping bags. Milford Cubicle has been known to fit a 4 man tent, two sleeping bags, inflatable double mattress, four pillows, thick double sheet, camping latern, food for two people for two days and the emergency toolkit just in the boot of it.

My MX-3 can eat all of the equipment required for a 4 player GT4 LAN in the boot alone, and that's not exactly the most practical car on the face of the Earth either.

 

[MustangSVT]

I think the point of the thread is that you live with your Testarossa as a daily driver.

I was only referring to what I would actually do with 100 thou. As I said in the previous GT-R thread (where this one came from), if it had to be on a car I would drive daily, then I would go out and test drive the new GT-R, an E92 M3 and decide between those 2.

 

[forza2.0]

I don't think anyone is dumb enough in the performance world to think that a Seat could still be a sleeper.

Really? Why is that then? SEAT do also sell 1.2 3cylinder cars, and are rolling out a green ibiza that only pollutes with 99 carbon dioxidies.

And people who dont know anything about cars wouldnt have a clue that a seat can spank alot of cars on european roads.

Yes, If you don't mind turning your own wrench almost all the time, and know what the hell you're doing modifying it. and if the suspension's comfortable AND handles well, not to mention being easy enough to drive that you don't have to be the Stig to go fast, you'll be mobbed for the setup. Oh, map that turbo so that you don't get that good old slam-your-head-into-the-headrest-when-you-least-expect-it lag. again, the more you modify, the more you spend

and I'm not sure how much modification the Leon will need. If the floorpan is different, we're probably talking lots and lots of fabrication, and work in the shop. If it's the same underneath as the A3 and R32 (and those may yet be different from the standard Golf/Rabbit!) You might pull it off with minor fab work, such as strut tower moving and suspension/engine mounts.

People reckon 5 grand would be enough to get a Cupra setup with the haldex drivetrain from a A3 quattro. Take the drivetrain from the sportback A3 and it wont need too much modifying.

Once again this is the everyday car thread, not the what you would do with $100K. Modified cars are never going to be as reliable as stock vehicles or really easy to drive...espeically if you are putting out 200 more horsepower over the stock motor that only make 200hp to begin with.

240HP stock in the SEAT Leon Cupra, 310hp after a remap. So would only need to find a extra 90hp in one way or another.

If I had to buy stock id probably get a M3, 911 or RS6.

 

[Jim Prower]

Really? Why is that then? SEAT do also sell 1.2 3cylinder cars, and are rolling out a green ibiza that only pollutes with 99 carbon dioxidies.

And people who dont know anything about cars wouldnt have a clue that a seat can spank alot of cars on european roads.

Here's a clue: Chevrolet is rolling the 620HP ZR-1 Corvette in a year or two. and the Camaro. But they also sell the little 110HP Aveo and are rolling out the VERY green Volt plug-in hybrid.

And given SEAT's record in BTCC and WTCC? Why wouldnt' people expect a SEAT (especially one with a lowered suspension and different wheels) to be fast? They're beginning to sound like the Eclipse/Civic on this side of the pond.

People reckon 5 grand would be enough to get a Cupra setup with the haldex drivetrain from a A3 quattro. Take the drivetrain from the sportback A3 and it wont need too much modifying.

People reckon...but has anyone actually tried it? Again, a job like this usually requires fabrication. Also consider that (I think, at least) the system is designed for the 3.2l engine, apparently, not the 2.0...could require even more fabrication. Might as well import an HGP twin-turbo kit, make 530 HP, and swap the entire 3.2 drivetrain into the Cupra, knowing it'll work...if it fits. I'm not entirely convinced that the Leon and A3/Golf are the same cars. Then there's the exhaustive work of the setup and the like.

By the way, how much is the drivetrain? actually, an A3 donor car? (I would NOT reccommend using a wreck, for damaged parts will severely shorten the life of your new tuner)

240HP stock in the SEAT Leon Cupra, 310hp after a remap. So would only need to find a extra 90hp in one way or another.

How about taking the engine apart? Full balance and blueprint, new bottom end, new cam and valvetrain...those last 90HP could be rather expensive. Don't forget the new exhaust system and all the turbo equipment. That is, if you want to, you know drive it on the street without it blowing up. You could get those 90HP from a big turbo and nitrous kit, but you'd blow something up. And wait a sec, last I checked, the coilover kit and tires and wheels to keep it all under control cost a good bit, too.

Look, just because your buddies "suppose" you can do it on the cheap, doesnt' mean it can be, at least not SAFELY and COMFORTABLY. Speed costs money, speed done right costs more. You might get just in under your country's limit, I think, but unless you like driving a loud, rude, shaky racer at the speed limit, I suggest you go stock.

Otherwise, you'll be living under the same misconceptions of many Honda Civic and Mistubishi Eclipse owners in this country.

If I had to buy stock id probably get a M3, 911 or RS6.

I'd much reccommend that. You'd probably be happiest with that RS6 Avant at the start of the thread. You can keep the hatch and it's utility that way. It'd be perfect for you, comfortable on long journeys, good around town, reliable, and ridiculously fast when you want it to be.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

For the purposes of this thread, can I assume I'll be living in the UK? If not, at least can I use Famine's exchange rates? And can I also assume that I get to decide what I would deem practical enough for a daily car, not someone else?

Audi RS6 - The only strike against it is petrol prices. Way faster than I'd ever really need, huge, capable, and safe in Canada's crap weather (so would fare even better across the pond). Hell, there's a previous gen RS6 sedan that's driven throughout the year right in my neighbourhood.

If I had a little while to think about it, I could list a handful of cars. A BMW 335xi Coupe would satisfy just about everything, and I'd take it over the sedan because the small hit in usability is bundled with a huge improvement in the looks department. The M3 would obviously be an option too, but I don't know if it'd actually be any better in the daily grind. I could easily see myself justifying a Q'porte, or the Gran Turismo, and I'm sure I'd find some way of making an Aston work. Seeing as how they're probably tops on the list of cars I want to some day own... yeah, I'd make it work. The new STI would cover all the bases pretty easily too, all I'd want are some non-whited taillights.

Crazy idea: Take on RS6 Avant, and convince Audi to find a way to drop the V12 TDI in.

Jim - The Leon and A3/Golf are indeed the same cars. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the 4WD system has been mated to the 2.0T, or at least has been an option with the current gen.

 

[Jim Prower]

I assume the R10 TDi's mill...that might cost as much as the car!

 

[forza2.0]

Here's a clue: Chevrolet is rolling the 620HP ZR-1 Corvette in a year or two. and the Camaro. But they also sell the little 110HP Aveo and are rolling out the VERY green Volt plug-in hybrid.

And given SEAT's record in BTCC and WTCC? Why wouldnt' people expect a SEAT (especially one with a lowered suspension and different wheels) to be fast? They're beginning to sound like the Eclipse/Civic on this side of the pond.

Well to be fairly honest with you the SEAT Cupra's and FR's models reputation is starting to go to the dogs due to them being affordable and fast, just like how the impreza wrx and sti brand has, meaning all the chavs are picking them up

People reckon...but has anyone actually tried it? Again, a job like this usually requires fabrication. Also consider that (I think, at least) the system is designed for the 3.2l engine, apparently, not the 2.0...could require even more fabrication. Might as well import an HGP twin-turbo kit, make 530 HP, and swap the entire 3.2 drivetrain into the Cupra, knowing it'll work...if it fits. I'm not entirely convinced that the Leon and A3/Golf are the same cars. Then there's the exhaustive work of the setup and the like.

By the way, how much is the drivetrain? actually, an A3 donor car? (I would NOT reccommend using a wreck, for damaged parts will severely shorten the life of your new tuner)

I know a guy that got a price quoted to get his FWD 350HP Ibiza cupra made into 4wd and because they would have to make most things from scratch he got back a quote of 10 grand. However VAG already have a 4wd system which used on golfs and A3's mated to the 2.0T and seeing as the leon uses the same chassis they could use most the parts of a donor car.


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How about taking the engine apart? Full balance and blueprint, new bottom end, new cam and valvetrain...those last 90HP could be rather expensive. Don't forget the new exhaust system and all the turbo equipment. That is, if you want to, you know drive it on the street without it blowing up. You could get those 90HP from a big turbo and nitrous kit, but you'd blow something up. And wait a sec, last I checked, the coilover kit and tires and wheels to keep it all under control cost a good bit, too.[/quote]

Stock internals are good for 400hp in the engine. Uprated turbo and injectors etc will give the engine 400hp for about 3 grand.

Look, just because your buddies "suppose" you can do it on the cheap, doesnt' mean it can be, at least not SAFELY and COMFORTABLY. Speed costs money, speed done right costs more. You might get just in under your country's limit, I think, but unless you like driving a loud, rude, shaky racer at the speed limit, I suggest you go stock.

Fully adjustable Coilovers will be £1300, it already has brembos as standard, so I dont see why the car would be shaky just because its modified to 400hp. Only has to be loud also if you want it to be so.

Otherwise, you'll be living under the same misconceptions of many Honda Civic and Mistubishi Eclipse owners in this country.

Really wouldnt bother with tuning a civic engine wise. Too much hassle engine tuning a NA.

I'd much reccommend that. You'd probably be happiest with that RS6 Avant at the start of the thread. You can keep the hatch and it's utility that way. It'd be perfect for you, comfortable on long journeys, good around town, reliable, and ridiculously fast when you want it to be.

I would wait for the saloon though.

 

[Tornado]

Well to be fairly honest with you the SEAT Cupra's and FR's models reputation is starting to go to the dogs due to them being affordable and fast, just like how the impreza wrx and sti brand has, meaning all the chavs are picking them up

Which is exactly why no one would be surprised if you showed up with some kind of turbocharged monster.

 

[McLaren]

I was only referring to what I would actually do with 100 thou. As I said in the previous GT-R thread (where this one came from), if it had to be on a car I would drive daily, then I would go out and test drive the new GT-R, an E92 M3 and decide between those 2.

Ok. I'd go with the latter though.

 

[Race Idiot]

So wait is this thread what 100k car you'd want if you were bogged down with kids in america and a job where you have to commute every day and have to buy something boring and sensible. Or is this a thread buy a day to day car for 100k that suits your own lifestyle and location. I still have JoeyD on ignore so I can't read his posts.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

328xi Coupe or a Carrera 4S if I want a bit more excitement

 

[Takumi Fujiwara]

'08 Subaru Outback XT Limited, Manual. Black.

Good looking, reliable, and comfortable. Tons of space for everything.

Nowhere near the limit, at 33k, optioned out... but nobody said the 100k would be the base price. The rest of the money?

-Build the motor to ~450HP. Best quality components and tuning, for maximum reliability. Conservative exhaust.
-Fully build suspension. Lower to moderately under the ride-height of its Legacy sibling.
-STi 6MT w/ DCCD
-Prodrive brakes
-Prodrive P-WRC1 wheels, "Rally Gold"
-ZERO SPORTS aero kit.
-Nice stereo, w/quality speakers, in-dash nav system. No sub boxes or anything of the sort.
-BRIDE "Ergo" seats, black leather.

So... within the price limit, daily drivable, roomy, practical, comfortable... and able to outrun and outcorner most sports cars, and many supercars.

 

[YSSMAN]

So wait is this thread what 100k car you'd want if you were bogged down with kids in america and a job where you have to commute every day and have to buy something boring and sensible. Or is this a thread buy a day to day car for 100k that suits your own lifestyle and location. I still have JoeyD on ignore so I can't read his posts.

The theory is that you get to buy ONE car for $100K or less (and its European, Pacific equivalents), keep it completely stock, and live with it every single day doing what you have to do.

Not everyone lives in a socialist state, so many of us do have to commute to work. Others may have to haul logs around their property. Maybe someone has three kids and has to make trips to the country to visit grandma.

...They're all examples of maybe reasons why you'd have to consider one thing over another. Being American has absolutely nothing to do with it...

 

[Famine]

kids in america

Being American has absolutely nothing to do with it...

Subtle reference.

Bizarre, but subtle.

 

[exigeracer]

I still stand by my choice waaay up there at the top of the thread. I take plenty of trips, and having all that room to drive friends around and pack for multi-week roadtrips is great. And on top of that, still have a car that can more than hold its own on the track if I so chose? Awesome.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

For me...

I wanna say a Country Squire with a turbo'd 351. But that breaks the rules.

So in that case...

for used if possible, and

if it must be new.

 

[a6m5]

Unless this is the only car that I can own(not stated in the original post), my "everyday" $100K car would be the new GT-R....... I think I'm going to have to get my lottery ticket tomorrow.

 

[Jim Prower]

Reports of the GT-R's "Let me help you" behaivior make it even more encouraging as a fair and foul weaher friend for me. To tell the truth, the most extreme weather we have here is tornadoes. and you don't really go out driving in those.

 

[Race Idiot]

The theory is that you get to buy ONE car for $100K or less (and its European, Pacific equivalents), keep it completely stock, and live with it every single day doing what you have to do.

Not everyone lives in a socialist state, so many of us do have to commute to work. Others may have to haul logs around their property. Maybe someone has three kids and has to make trips to the country to visit grandma.

...They're all examples of maybe reasons why you'd have to consider one thing over another. Being American has absolutely nothing to do with it...

Welp then my car choices are abseloutely fine, god I wish I was American so much America owns America number 1 ronpaul for the win.