$100K Everyday Car Thread (from the GT-R Discussion)

[the Interceptor]

Meh. I'd rather have a GTI. It only has 30 hp less and the rears don't drive but it doesn't have the big V-6 hanging off the front and it isn't AWD. In the end, the GTI is probably more fun to drive and almost as quick.

You must have missed that a bi-turbo setup adds another 280hp to the 250hp the R32 has.

 

[Gashlycrumb]

Based on the current conversion rate I would have NZ$130,289.12 to spend. SO if it had to be just one car that I would have to live with on a daily basis it would have to be:

A HSV Grange for NZ$97,000. 307KW V8, 6 Speed, leather and Bose sound system.

The nearest BMW I could afford for the NZ$130k budget would be a 530SE for NZ$120k or I could get a M-B E280 Elegance for NZ$120k. Both make the Grange seem like a massive bargain.

 

[Turbo Lag]

Does this have to be straight from the factory, or can it be something older that has been tinkered with as well?

I would have to drive a variety of vehicles, but most likely it would fall between these two.

BMW M5 wagon

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and

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Pretty simple. All about practicality and enough power to get you down that road in quick style. Wagons are incredibly useful, oftentimes as much room as their SUV counterparts, but with the driving dynamics of the car they are based on. Both cars look awesome, too! The choice would come down to whichever felt lighter and more communicative.

Id probably go for one of them, most likely the RS6.

But the R32 comes to mind as said earlier, not a very good car but I like it, thats all that matters IMO. But ill have quite alot of change from that; so no.

 

[1X83Z]

Agreed. But I need an everyday vehicle that carries up to five people in relative comfort, can carry quite some stuff as well (fold the rear seats down), flawlessly works in every weather condition (including snow) and can be parked outside at night without being stolen or vandalized. And as nice as a Ferrari may be, it doesn't cover that. And I still have a very very quick car, may it not be as fun, agile and alive as a prancing horse.

Who really needs to carry five people?

The Ferrari works in every weather condition, it can carry stuff, and it can be parked outside at night. All works except the five people thing and be honest.

 

[McLaren]

Not even a question.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...s=&transmission=&max_price=104000&cardist=300

Ha, awesome choice.

I'm not saying it was unreliable, because it wasn't. But everything from tyres to clutches, to timing belts back to brakes needed replacing or maintaining regualrly.

Yes, that is expensive, but the common misconception about Ferrari's is that they'll also need service all the time which is simply untrue. Plenty of Ferrari owners on FChat have spent less than $10,000 a year maintaining their cars, many reporting that the most they ever do is change the tires & oil.
It works much like the Diablo. The common misconception with it is that the clutch will always need to be replaced. However, if you don't treat it like a boxing bag, it'll run smoothly. And of course, even if these cars are not bullet-proof sports cars like the NSX, that doesn't mean they can't be daily driven. Hell, I see a black SRT-10 Viper every business day which means the owner must obviously be using it as his to-and-from-work car.

As for my choice, tough to say. Doug's easily got a good deal with the Maranello and I could find a much older Countach, but I'm going to go with either of these.

Price:
Does this really need an explanation? One the world's best bang-for-the-buck cars for years, this car's price is easily justified.
Performance:
The ///M division doesn't need anymore explanation either. The fact this is a M should say enough.
Capability:
Being a BMW, it probably will lack in this area greatly. However, Dallas weather year round is pretty suitable to the M3, so I have no worries about it. The only problem that can arise with the M3 will most likely be trunk space considering it's gas is pretty decent and maintenance is free with the new M3.
Comfort:
It's a BMW. The only thing that could be uncomfortable besides the rear seats is the sporty suspension.
Style:
Being a BMW fan, it's no surprise I love it. However, I do realize there are some BMW fanatics who don't care too much for it.

 

[Gashlycrumb]

This might help you maintain your 550 Doug

http://www.specializeditalianrecycling.com/ferrari-parts/550.html

BTW the cheapest 550 I could find for sale in New Zealand was NZ$195,000 for a 2000 model with 29,000Kms. I guess I'll stick with the Grange then.

 

[Gil]

I think with that price cap, and my needs, I'd get a Ford Excursion with a diesel.
Possibly the Eddie Bauer edition with the ugly buy comfortable interior, Heated driver and passenger seats, 4WD that can be accessed on the fly...

Oh wait, I already have that vehicle, and I drive over Ferraris stuck in the snow.
But I really hate picking Priuses out of the damn grille.

 

[1X83Z]

As for my choice, tough to say. Doug's easily got a good deal with the Maranello and I could find a much older Countach, but I'm going to go with either of these.

Yeah. Found a Countach on AutoTrader for under $100k. They're still around (barely).

This might help you maintain your 550 Doug

Yaay! Their misfortune is my gain!

 

[Tornado]

Yeah. Found a Countach on AutoTrader for under $100k. They're still around (barely).

To specify Doug's explanation, I too thought of a Countach and there is only 1. It was my favorite model Countach, but it was also 20 grand more than the faster 512TR.

 

[1X83Z]

To specify Doug's explanation, I too thought of a Countach and there is only 1. It was my favorite model Countach, but it was also 20 grand more than the faster 512TR.

Rationalize it all day long, the Countach will always be the more desirable car.

 

[Jim Prower]

Originally, I was going to pick something like this...

But I then remembered that it's value has gone WAY past $100K, and that I'd never get one at that price. It' not that viable everyday, anyway. To get decent gas milage (Despite being slipprier than the Prius,) would require value-dropping modifications, that will make me spend more for less return on the investment. and then it doesnt' handle well (Without modern radials and a bit of suspension tweaking, perhaps a rollcage...)

and by the end of it all, I've spent 100k ABOVE 110k, getting my winged warrior up to par with everyone else's car. and I was overbudget to begin with.

To be honest, I'd probably pick the GT-R. Used, after about a couple years. Hopefully, for around 50, 60K. This way, I have 40-50K left over for, perhaps, another, more practical solution for my need for Mopar Muscle...

Actually, this one's only $25K. and instantly cooler. so, I could just about afford it with the GT-R, if I can find it for MSRP. If I pick up the GT-R up used, I can save a little money for a respray in Evernham Red, and dual Megaphone Sidepipes, perhaps sell the brushguard to a Dukes Enthusiast, put little "9"s over the sidepipe exits, and have my character's (Jim Prower) car. for weekends, of course.

So, let's recap.

Weekdays:

Weekends:

 

[Jay]

As I said in the GTR thread, I would get the R35 GTR, I own a R33 now and am happy with it so why not.

I would keep the change for other things, or most probably spend it on tuning it further.

 

[Wolfe]

I'd wait until this dropped down to the requisite $100k limit (a quick search revealed examples available for as "little" as ~$117k):

I think it's much, much more beautiful than the 550; it's quicker than the 550 in all respects except for top speed (0-60 in 3.7sec, 192mph, 0.98g, 'Ring time that is 18 seconds faster); it's more practical than the 550 (back seats suitable enough for children, even has AWD for snow driving); it'll be more dependable than the 550, no matter how reliable the 550 may or may not be, partially because Porsche has a reputation of building generally reliable sportscars and also because it's just plain newer than the 550; it'll likely be cheaper to fix than the 550, even if it isn't particularly cheap-to-fix itself; and it's less of an attention whore than the 550.

Did I mention I think the 550 is one of the least-attractive Ferraris ever built, or that I don't like any post-1970s front-engined Ferraris?

If you guys think the "wait for the car's price to drop" thing is unfair, then switch it to the 996 Turbo. Most of what I said will still stand, though the 996 doesn't beat the 550's performance as badly (still 11 seconds faster around the 'Ring), and you can take out one "much" from the first part.

 

[JCE]

Except be a Ferrari! Which is why my 485bhp monster will soon be your choice, too!



I would've sold all my friends to get the Ferrari!

Driving dynamics! The Golf may be quick but it's no match for the Ferrari as an overall vehicle.

Who really needs to carry five people?

The Ferrari works in every weather condition, it can carry stuff, and it can be parked outside at night. All works except the five people thing and be honest.

Not everybody wants a Ferrari.

 

[Philly]

You must have missed that a bi-turbo setup adds another 280hp to the 250hp the R32 has.

Nah. I just overlooked that. You can do stuff to a GTI too. I just don't like comparing cars when aftermarket parts are involved.

And I think Wolfe has the right idea. I love those things.

 

[Rue]

Did I mention I think the 550 is one of the least-attractive Ferraris ever built, or that I don't like any post-1970s front-engined Ferraris?

Of course you realise that your comment holds no weight due to it's subjectivity although you're completely entitled to feel that way. I personally think the 550 is one of the most attractive contemporary Ferraris and echoes the design cues of many of the most beautiful Ferrari GT cars from the 50's and 60's. Pictures just don't convey the aggressive and purposeful stance of this car as it looks in the metal and the glorious sound it makes on full song, especially when it's allowed to breathe properly.

If I had to pic a $100k car, the 550 Devil would definitely be making a lot of noise in my ear as would a F355 Spider. At the end of the day though I may be tempted with a tidy Porsche 993 Turbo (stock one pictures) which I would then spend the remaining money to make it a little bit offensive in department of power, sound and looks.

Ask me again in ten minutes, and of course I will have changed my mind.

 

[neanderthal]

still havent figured out the copy and paste on this macbook, but id take either a diesel gelandewagen or a diesel land rover defender 130 crew cab pickup or diesel defender 110 station wagon.

you can image search for your self

 

[Gashlycrumb]

I just found this for sale in New Zealand and it fits in under the NZ$130,000 limit.

http://www.autotrader.co.nz/UsedItemDetails.aspx?N=4294965344+4294965128+0&No=20&item=41066&sid=

It is a 1991 965 RUF Turbo with 67,000kms for NZ$109,000. It is not quite as practical for an everyday car as the Grange I first chose, but I think that it would be a lot more fun in the long run.

 

[YSSMAN]

This thread is funny...

Okay, so if I was to MAX the limit, I'd probably end up with one of these:

The Jaguar XF

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Its big, has the power, the room, and by God is it stylish.

...Okay, and maybe one of these too...

Renaultsport Megane R26

 

[the Interceptor]

Who really needs to carry five people?

I do. Not every day, but occasionally.

The Ferrari works in every weather condition

I wouldn't want to drive that in the snow through one of the quite mountainous towns around, I already had enough trouble with my Bimmer last winter.

it can carry stuff

Sure, but by far not as easy and as much as the Golf.

and it can be parked outside at night.

Maybe where you live, but I wouldn't want to park it where I live.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the Ferrari is a bad car, nor am I saying that it's the worst choice for an everyday car. I do agree with you that it certainly is one of the best overall choices you can make. Still, I'd really really choose that Golf.

Nah. I just overlooked that. You can do stuff to a GTI too.

Sure, but how much power would you want to put into a FWD car?

I just don't like comparing cars when aftermarket parts are involved.

Yeah I know what you mean. This add-on has proven to be very powerful and very realiable though, which is why I'd seriously consider adding it to an R32.

 

[Supercar_Killer]

I'd wait until this dropped down to the requisite $100k limit (a quick search revealed examples available for as "little" as ~$117k):

I think it's much, much more beautiful than the 550; it's quicker than the 550 in all respects except for top speed (0-60 in 3.7sec, 192mph, 0.98g, 'Ring time that is 18 seconds faster); it's more practical than the 550 (back seats suitable enough for children, even has AWD for snow driving); it'll be more dependable than the 550, no matter how reliable the 550 may or may not be, partially because Porsche has a reputation of building generally reliable sportscars and also because it's just plain newer than the 550; it'll likely be cheaper to fix than the 550, even if it isn't particularly cheap-to-fix itself; and it's less of an attention whore than the 550.

Did I mention I think the 550 is one of the least-attractive Ferraris ever built, or that I don't like any post-1970s front-engined Ferraris?

If you guys think the "wait for the car's price to drop" thing is unfair, then switch it to the 996 Turbo. Most of what I said will still stand, though the 996 doesn't beat the 550's performance as badly (still 11 seconds faster around the 'Ring), and you can take out one "much" from the first part.

Agreed, totally agreed. Except for the 'least attractive' bit, the 550, while (in my opinion) stunningly good looking is a car for people with too much money who know little to nothing about racing and think that because its a ferrari it'll go fast round a track. Its pretty close competition, but the Porsche beats the 550 in the track criteria and so I'd have to go with that

 

[Philly]

Renaultsport Megane R26

Sure, but how much power would you want to put into a FWD car?

I could probably get a kit to make it AWD and keep it in the budget. But you do have a point.

I have heard of 500 hp GTIs though.

Yeah I know what you mean. This add-on has proven to be very powerful and very realiable though, which is why I'd seriously consider adding it to an R32.

Then you don't really have an R32 anymore. If you wanted to compare mod-ability, I would certainly choose the R32 simply because of the AWD.

 

[the Interceptor]

Then you don't really have an R32 anymore. If you wanted to compare mod-ability, I would certainly choose the R32 simply because of the AWD.

If you can name other compact do-it-all high powered cars for $100k or less, you're very welcome. I don't know any though...

 

[1X83Z]

Not everybody wants a Ferrari.

I was just screwing around. I'd be surprised if, given $100,000, anyone chose the Ferrari.

 

[Mark T]

I went for the Audi RS4 Quattro cabriolet. From looking on Auto Trader I could pick one up for around £48,000. Comfortable ride, great engine, cabriolet for summer, room for kids and great handling in all weather conditions thanks to Quattro.

 

[JCE]

I was just screwing around. I'd be surprised if, given $100,000, anyone chose the Ferrari.

You fooled me for a minute there.

I'm glad I'm seeing Audis, Porsches, and Mercs in here.

 

[Revheadnz]

For my NZ$130K on a new car I would be leaning towards a BMW 335i coupe, 6 speed of course. Fast, nice handling on road and track, comfortable and one of the better looking current BMWs.

However, if I was considering 2nd hand as well that might stretch to a Audi RS4.

Or as previously mentioned, 993 Turbo. Or a M3 CSl. Or a E39 M5...the list could go on. One would really have to go out and drive them all to make a descsion. Not as if that would be a bad thing though.

 

[1X83Z]

You fooled me for a minute there.

I'm glad I'm seeing Audis, Porsches, and Mercs in here.

What would you get?

 

[JCE]

What would you get?

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2867245&postcount=3

Number 2 is quite obvious since I love AMG Mercs. The first one is chosen purely for "practicality" purposes for my $100k. You can do anything in the Cayenne Turbo...including offroad and hauling a boat if need be.

 

[Alex.]