3 Liter Championship Series *Look for 4 Liter Series thread soon*

What do you think?

  • Everyone picks 1 car and run 1 race with both classes at once.

    Votes: 14 70.0%

  • Pick 1 car for each class and run 2 races, one per class, at half the distance.

    Votes: 6 30.0%
  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .
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Rules:
Absolutely nothing with a displacement greater than 3000 cc.
There will be no race cars or racing modified cars.
There will be no tuning or drivetrain restrictions.
No skid recovery, active steering, tcs, or asm.
There will be no set horsepower or weight restrictions, however a car's horsepower to weight ratio can be no more than 0.5 HP per kilogram.Bumping is a part of racing, however intentionally wrecking another car is not, and will not be tolerated.
With regards to corner cutting issues anything allowed in a license test will be allowed here.
Any complaints with regards to somebody breaking the rules shall be sent via Personal Message on GTP to me and include what I should look for and what lap the incedent happened on, so I am sure to keep a close eye for it.
A first offense will most likely result in a warning, but if the outcome of the race is drastically altered, a points penalty can and will be handed out for a first offense.

Classes:
Class 2(under 2000cc)
Class 3(between 2000 and 3000cc)

Points System:
1st 100 points
2nd 80 points
3rd 65 points
4th 55 points
5th 45 points
6th 35 points
7th 25 points
8th 20 points
9th 15 points
10th 10 points
11th 8 points
12th 6 points
13th 4 points
14th 3 points
15th 2 points
16th 1 point

Schedule (races will start around 10 PM Central US time (GMT- 6:00) on these dates):
January 21st: Top Gear Test Track*- 30 laps 52.5 miles (Winner- elkydriver)
January 28th: Trial Mountain- 20 laps 49.4 miles (Winner- sach22)
February 4th: Grand Valley- 16 laps 49.12 miles (Winer- Jav122678)
February 11th: High Speed Ring Weather Change - 20 laps 49.8 miles (Winner- Ford-Driver_62)
February 18th: Fuji GT- 18 laps 50.58 miles (Winner- GTP_Egghead)
February 26th: Suzuka Weather Change (fixed rain)- 14 laps 50.54 miles (Winner- Jav122678)
March 4th: Nurburgring 24H (night/fixed dry)- 4 laps 63.04 miles (Winner- GTP_Egghead)
March 11th: Daytona Road Course- 14 laps 49.84 miles (Winner- GTP_Egghead)
March 18th: Monaco- 24 laps 49.92 miles (Winner- Jav122678)
March 25th: Monza Weather Change- 14 laps 50.4 miles (Winner- Ford-Driver_62)
April 1st: Tsukuba- 39 laps 49.53 miles (Winner- Ford-Driver_62)
April 8th: Laguna Seca- 22 laps 49.28 miles (Winner- Jav122678)
April 15th: Circuit De La Sarthe 2009 (night/ fixed rain)- 6 laps 50.82 miles (Winner- Jav122678)
*=exhibition

Podiums:
Overall
1) Jav122678
2) Ford-Driver_62
3) tr1mble
Class 2
1) Jav122678
2) Ford-Driver_62
3) tr1mble

Class 3
1) legendracer911
2) GTP_Egghead
3) GTP_mike46an2

Manufacturer
1) Honda
2) Subaru
3) Nissan
 
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Good to see a thread now for this series.

Is that all 3 classes racing at the same time?

If so that'd work fine. Like the Bathurst race ( Australia's biggest ) back in the 1980's. 500+ Hp V8 supercars on the track with 2 litre lightweight racers.

Also, the race time, which time zone are you talking about?
 
Mic_Col
Good to see a thread now for this series.

Is that all 3 classes racing at the same time?

If so that'd work fine. Like the Bathurst race ( Australia's biggest ) back in the 1980's. 500+ Hp V8 supercars on the track with 2 litre lightweight racers.

Also, the race time, which time zone are you talking about?
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All classes will race at once unless there are 20+entries, I am in the Central Time Zone in the USA (GMT-6:00)
 
ah, now to start searching for the perfect car. A suggestion, why not use the 4hr or 24h ring tracks, allows all the traffic to be sorted out on the GP track instead of the tight first section of Nordschleife.
 
Not sure on car yet, but sign me up!!

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Oficial car and specs:
Subaru Impreza Sti 07
1219Kg
529HP/7400rpm
453ft-lb/5400rpm
 
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Ok! I want to use the Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo!
Let me know if it is still elegible please!
 
I have a car picked out. This'd be in the <2000 category. Class 2.

Lotus Elise 111R '04

Note it hasn't been race modified. Making it very rare.

298HP - 776KG

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Also another thing, how are rotary engines to be calculated? I checked my RX-7 which has an engine with 635x2 which doing straight maths gives you 1.270 Liters. But the horse power is way beyond what you'd get from a 'pistons and crankshaft' engine of 1.3 L

Rotary engines function vastly differently to a regular one, so can they even be included based on displacement?
 
i would think you would have to double the liters on a rotory engine...but im not sure...i know there is a right way to figure it out....

as of now im gonna use a 05 sti...but i might change it up
 
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Jav
Ok! I want to use the Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo!
Let me know if it is still elegible please!
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From the first post "anything with adjustable front downforce will be considered a race car" Sorry Jav Front downforce is adjustable on this car, which would give it a big advantage over the other cars. Maybe the title is a bit misleading, but looking at the majority of cars from the tuning outlets, it appears that they would all have adjustable front downforce.

Mic_Col
I have a car picked out. This'd be in the <2000 category. Class 2.

Lotus Elise 111R '04

Note it hasn't been race modified. Making it very rare.

298HP - 776KG

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Also another thing, how are rotary engines to be calculated? I checked my RX-7 which has an engine with 635x2 which doing straight maths gives you 1.270 Liters. But the horse power is way beyond what you'd get from a 'pistons and crankshaft' engine of 1.3 L

Rotary engines function vastly differently to a regular one, so can they even be included based on displacement?
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Nice car choice, if you havent added all the power parts and you add more just put up your new power numbers. As far as the rotary engines go for classification, my max HP tuned '02 RX-7 has a .51 hp/kg ratio (illegal for series), compared with my 2 liter '10 STI and '07 EVO with a .43 and .42 respectively. My 2.6L '02 GTR has a .62 ratio, so I will determine how to classify the rotary engine cars after more research, but they will be legal to run.

smokedogg
i would think you would have to double the liters on a rotory engine...but im not sure...i know there is a right way to figure it out....

as of now im gonna use a 05 sti...but i might change it up
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For rotary engines, Gran Turismo lists the displacement along with the amount of rotors (some in the game have 3) to figure total displacement, multiply single rotor displacement by number of rotors. However for our purposes if these cars are going to have a significant advantage over Class 2 competition then they will be placed into Class 3. When you've made a final decision, just post car and output figures.
 
Looks like a lot of us from the touring car championship are joining in all the same series that's cool. Makes for some good racing.
 
I have interest in this Series. I have recently gotten involved with the Super GT series and loving it.

I would love to race an Evo, this series would be perfect. If I can manage both of these series with my time schedule, then I am in this one........like to be in shall I say.
 
Ford-Driver_62
From the first post "anything with adjustable front downforce will be considered a race car" Sorry Jav Front downforce is adjustable on this car, which would give it a big advantage over the other cars. Maybe the title is a bit misleading, but looking at the majority of cars from the tuning outlets, it appears that they would all have adjustable front downforce.
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That's to bad! Really wanted to used that one! How about the 380 Superleggera?
 
i have a sti with 468 hp at 1152 kg (for 2000)

and an f40 thats 542hp at 1125 kg ...(not sure yet if thats what i like for 3000)
r those both good??
 
I'm kind of interested in this series, I'll poke around and see what kind of 3L cars I can come up with that will make for a good race.
Ford-Driver_62
As long as it's under 3000 cc, when you're done adding parts just post you're HP and kg figures.
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Somehow I doubt it. He didn't specify which M3 but there are only 2 kinds. The E92 has a V8 which I don't know the displacement but I can guarantee its more than 3L. I know this much because the E46 is a 3.2L straight six so it doesn't qualify either. I'd have loved to use the E46 myself. :indiff:
Jav
That's to bad! Really wanted to used that one! How about the 380 Superleggera?
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Pretty sure that's 3.7L based on the original 370Z or I'm guessing bored to 3.8L due to the name. ;)
 
smokedogg
i have a sti with 468 hp at 1152 kg (for 2000)

and an f40 thats 542hp at 1125 kg ...(not sure yet if thats what i like for 3000)
r those both good??
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The STI is most good as long as it is not RM'd. The F40 will also be good, just post exact model and specs when you make a decision. Remember both classes will run at the same time, so you have to pick one car.
 
Jav
Ohh damn!!! Well, I guess I'll go with my good old amuse R1 for the 2.0 class...
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Ford-Driver_62
Rules:
There will be no race cars or racing modified cars (anything with adjustable front downforce will be considered a race car).
There will be no set horsepower or weight restrictions, however a car's horsepower to weight ratio can be no more than 0.5 HP per kilogram..
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As long as it follows these rules it's legal, just make sure to post the exact displacement, because I know that the '06 S200 actually is a 2.2 liter.
 
smokedogg
and an f40 thats 542hp at 1125 kg ...(not sure yet if thats what i like for 3000)
r those both good??
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Wow, I never realised that a F40's engine is smaller than 3.0L , I thought you'd miss-read the rules.

But I went and checked, it really is a 2.9L engine.
 
Ford-Driver_62
As long as it follows these rules it's legal, just make sure to post the exact displacement, because I know that the '06 S200 actually is a 2.2 liter.
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Amuse S200 R1 '04

Displacement________________1997 cc
Max. Power__________432 HP/8400rpm
Max Torque__________264ft-lb/8600rpm
Drivetrain________________________FR
Width_______________________1750mm
Height_______________________1285mm
Weight_______________________1120kg

That's where I'm leaning, let me know the date for our final car decision!
 
Jav
Amuse S200 R1 '04

Displacement________________1997 cc
Max. Power__________432 HP/8400rpm
Max Torque__________264ft-lb/8600rpm
Drivetrain________________________FR
Width_______________________1750mm
Height_______________________1285mm
Weight_______________________1120kg

That's where I'm leaning, let me know the date for our final car decision!
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I'll put you down for it, just make sure it adheres to the front downforce rule!
As far as a car decision goes you must finalize your car choice before you compete in your first points race, so if you do the exhibition race at the TGTT and do not like your car, you can choose a different car. Just make sure to lay claim to a car if you want to run it, as two people can not run the same car (this does not apply to different year cars)
 
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Class 3
Mines R34 GT-R
660hp 1340kg

Any thoughts on everyone running both classes? Just like in ITCC run two races back to back, 15mins each. We switch cars between races and points count for both together and seperate. That way we have a battle for class 2,3, and overall. Also if you don't have the fastest car in either race you could still have a chance at the overall championship.

The idea just dawned on me when i was picking from two cars, one was a class 2 and the other was class 3.
 
GTRedline
Any thoughts on everyone running both classes? Just like in ITCC run two races back to back, 15mins each. We switch cars between races and points count for both together and seperate. That way we have a battle for class 2,3, and overall. Also if you don't have the fastest car in either race you could still have a chance at the overall championship.

The idea just dawned on me when i was picking from two cars, one was a class 2 and the other was class 3.
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thats what i would like to do...i have a car for each that i love...plus back to back races is pretty fun

..also ...the 2 cars i said im thinking about earlier are the 2 im gonna use....for now ;)
 
GTRedline
Class 3
Mines R34 GT-R
660hp 1340kg

Any thoughts on everyone running both classes? Just like in ITCC run two races back to back, 15mins each. We switch cars between races and points count for both together and seperate. That way we have a battle for class 2,3, and overall. Also if you don't have the fastest car in either race you could still have a chance at the overall championship.

The idea just dawned on me when i was picking from two cars, one was a class 2 and the other was class 3.
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Upon further review the front downforce rule is revoked. I tested a Mines R34 and ran a lap .160 quicker than the Subaru that I will run. I thought that adding downforce to the front of the car on these tuner companies' cars would provide a huge advantage to those running them. As far as running the classes separately I had a LeMans style of running all classes at once in mind, but if the majority want to do it that way, I suppose that's the way we'll do it.
 
Ford-Driver_62
Upon further review the front downforce rule is revoked. I tested a Mines R34 and ran a lap .160 quicker than the Subaru that I will run. I thought that adding downforce to the front of the car on these tuner companies' cars would provide a huge advantage to those running them. As far as running the classes separately I had a LeMans style of running all classes at once in mind, but if the majority want to do it that way, I suppose that's the way we'll do it.
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Woohoo!!! Amuse GT1 Turbo it is for me!!!
 
Ford-Driver_62
Upon further review the front downforce rule is revoked. I tested a Mines R34 and ran a lap .160 quicker than the Subaru that I will run. I thought that adding downforce to the front of the car on these tuner companies' cars would provide a huge advantage to those running them. As far as running the classes separately I had a LeMans style of running all classes at once in mind, but if the majority want to do it that way, I suppose that's the way we'll do it.
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The Mines GT-R doesn't have any front downforce. But if you want to allow it i'll be changing both my cars to much faster ones!
 

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