◆ SNAIL [DriveTrain Challenge - DTC] Racing - Closed

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Heading to D3 in a few.
Sucks being at work.

But at least I could think up some challenges:

One Make Challenge Excluding Honda, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Toyota
2 cars = 1pt
3 cars = 2pts
4 cars = 4pts

One Make Challenge For Honda, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Toyota
4 cars = 1pt

4 cars from one continent excluding Asia= 1pt

3 cars from three different continents = 1 pt

4 cars from four different continents = 3 pts

4 cars from One Country not Japan = 2pts
4 cars from Japan = 1pt
4 cars none of which are from Japan = 1pt

4 cars from four different decades = 2pts
4 cars from the same decade (80's 90' 00's)= 1pt
4 cars from the same decade not the (80's 90' 00's)= 2pts

4 different makes = 1pt
4 different makes and 4 different countries = 2pts

The GM challenge - One GM car from four current GM makes, from three continents and four decades - 4 pts

The Chrysler challenge - Run 8 cars over two race nights that are owned, or have been owned by a company that was either chrylser or owned Chrysler while not running a chrysler - Fiat, Ferrari, Lancia, Dodge, Lamborghini, Maserati, Mercedes, Eagle, Alfa Romeo - 4 pts

The Ford challenge run four cars from 4 makes that were but are no longer owned by ford (Volvo, Jag, Austin martin, Land Rover, Mazda)= 4 pts

Any thoughts or additions? For now just playing with this idea so nothing official.
 
Sweet. I'm on now if anyone wants to practice. D3 doesn't give me any miles though, boo.

Oh and I just got twin ring.
 
Alright, here's my new lineup:

FF - Toyota Corolla Levin BZ-R '98 (393)
FR - Mazda efini RX-7 Type R (FD) (437)
MR - Dome Dome-Zero Concept '78 (397)
4WD - Dihatsu Sirion X4 (j) '00 (369)

Total PP: 1596
 
I'm keeping the MX-5 and DeLorean, but replacing the other two:
FF - Mitsubishi FTO GPX '99 (406PP)
4WD - Toyota Celica GT-four RC (ST185) '91 (417PP)
FR - Mazda MX-5 1600 NR-A '04 (363PP)
MR/RR - DeLorean S2 '04 (412PP)


That brings me to 1598PP total by my calculations.
 
So, if you gentlemen don't mind my presence at such distinctive competition, :) i will prepare my set and post as soon as i have it ready.
 
So, if you gentlemen don't mind my presence at such distinctive competition, :) i will prepare my set and post as soon as i have it ready.
of course you are welcome Schmiggz. Be sure to use the known PP tab on the spreadsheet. I am updating it with several hundred more cars thanks to a list JLBowler has provided:)

The spreadsheet for known PP of cars used in the S.N.A.I.L. Performance Cap Series can be found here.
 
ok, here's my thing:

My cars are :
- (FR) Mazda Roadster RS '07 - 394pp
- (FF) Peugeot 207 GTI '07 - 397pp
- (MR) Lotus Elise '96 - 413pp
- (AWD) Toyota Celica GT-Four '86 - 387pp
Total - 1591pp

All cars are painted in Chamaleon Orange
 
I'm keeping the MX-5 and DeLorean, but replacing the other two:
FF - Mitsubishi FTO GPX '99 (406PP)
4WD - Toyota Celica GT-four RC (ST185) '91 (417PP)
FR - Mazda MX-5 1600 NR-A '04 (363PP)
MR/RR - DeLorean S2 '04 (412PP)


That brings me to 1598PP total by my calculations.

Just a warning, the gearing in the Celica GT 4 RC is all buggered up:yuck:.
 
Be sure to use the known PP tab on the spreadsheet. I am updating it with several hundred more cars thanks to a list JLBowler has provided:)

The spreadsheet for known PP of cars used in the S.N.A.I.L. Performance Cap Series can be found here.

Sorry to butt in here. :guilty:
But I'm interested in your Known PP list. 👍 Very useful.
Just to clarify, if it doesn't have specified in the "High Mileage PP", then the PP is assumed to be broken in but LOW mileage, with engine overhaul or whatever (if need be)? Are you being that specific?
 
FF 388PP Mazda6 5-Door '03
FR 436PP Mazda RX-8 Type S '03
MR 383PP Toyota MR-S Edition '99
4WD TBD
 
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Sorry to butt in here. :guilty:
But I'm interested in your Known PP list. 👍 Very useful.
Just to clarify, if it doesn't have specified in the "High Mileage PP", then the PP is assumed to be broken in but LOW mileage, with engine overhaul or whatever (if need be)? Are you being that specific?
You are welcome to butt in. You could even join us:)

You are correct if the PP Value has a confirmed by name then it should be a car with between 200-9000 miles, With engine rebuild and clean oil. From what I have read that car should have the max PP. To notes. NBI stands for Not Broken In and MGT is for Mygranturismo.net. Both of these figures will likely increase. One last note. Some of the values for the NBI cars are probably correct as they may well have been bought from the OCD but I can not verify that till I run them for 200 miles.

Hope it helps:)
 
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Here is tonight's Winning Combo:

Lancia Stratos '73 MR 417
Chrysler Prowler '02 FR 425
Focus ST 170 FF 387
Daihatsu Storia 4WD 370

Total 1599
 
Here is tonight's Winning Combo:

Lancia Stratos '73 MR 417
Chrysler Prowler '02 FR 425
Focus ST 170 FF 387
Daihatsu Storia 4WD 370

Total 1599
If you can get that prowler to win anything you ate a better man than me:)
 
For Monday:

FF 388PP Mazda6 5-Door '03
FR 436PP Mazda RX-8 Type S '03
MR 383PP Toyota MR-S Edition '99
4WD 390PP VW Bora V6 4Motion '01

Total: 1598
 
You are welcome to butt in. You could even join us:)

You are correct if the PP Value has a confirmed by name then it should be a car with between 200-9000 miles, With engine rebuild and clean oil. From what I have read that car should have the max PP. To notes. NBI stands for Not Broken In and MGT is for Mygranturismo.net. Both of these figures will likely increase. One last note. Some of the values for the NBI cars are probably correct as they may well have been bought from the OCD but I can not verify that till I run them for 200 miles.

Hope it helps:)

Yes very helpful. Thank you.
And yeah, I wish there was something to indicate whether a car is broken in or not at 0miles, because I often have multiple 0 miles cars that I can't recall whether I got them as a prize car or from the OCD or a car ticket... or if there's 50 miles on a car because I made a good find in the UCD, or because I got it at 0miles and took it into a race. :boggled:

Anyway, I am interested. This concept is very interesting. The time is dodgy & uncertain for me. But I will see if I can prepare something for Monday, because I never seem to get to race Motegi, and it was one of my fave tracks in GT4.

I'm not sure if I fully "get" the possible strategy with picking cars. :dopey: Is there anything I'm missing? Like an idea people have in mind when picking the cars? I could use some tips. ^^ :)

Append: Also, can you link the spreadsheet link in the OP for reference? (Or is it there & I'm blind? :dopey:)
 
Change of plans, again. I am going to race tonight.

FF 388PP Mazda6 5-Door '03
FR 436PP Mazda RX-8 Type S '03
MR 383PP Toyota MR-S Edition '99
4WD 390PP VW Bora V6 4Motion '01

Total: 1598
 
Yes very helpful. Thank you.
And yeah, I wish there was something to indicate whether a car is broken in or not at 0miles, because I often have multiple 0 miles cars that I can't recall whether I got them as a prize car or from the OCD or a car ticket... or if there's 50 miles on a car because I made a good find in the UCD, or because I got it at 0miles and took it into a race. :boggled:

Anyway, I am interested. This concept is very interesting. The time is dodgy & uncertain for me. But I will see if I can prepare something for Monday, because I never seem to get to race Motegi, and it was one of my fave tracks in GT4.

I'm not sure if I fully "get" the possible strategy with picking cars. :dopey: Is there anything I'm missing? Like an idea people have in mind when picking the cars? I could use some tips. ^^ :)

Append: Also, can you link the spreadsheet link in the OP for reference? (Or is it there & I'm blind? :dopey:)
I am glad the spreadsheet is helpful. Feel free to link to it for your races if you would like. There is a link in the 5th post but you are right I should probably put it in the first post.

As far as strategy goes I am not sure anyone has figured out the perfect strategy yet. The two trains of thought seem to be:

1. Throw one race with a low PP car and stack your other cars.
2. Be consistent in all the races but not win any.

Both seem valid. The real key is finding the cars that punch above there PP and running them on a track that maximizes that advantage. So two cars off the same PP can have massively different times on different tracks. To illustrate take a low hp 400 PP car on Daytona Road course. It will be much slower than a 400 PP car that has significantly higher hp. Now take them both to Tsukuba and the difference may not be as great or it may even swing to give the advantage to the low hp car.

Also when you choose to race the cars will play a big part. The last thing you want to do is win a race when you have a huge PP advantage. So say you run a 450pp car and everyone else runs a 360pp car. Sure you will win but for the rest of the races you opponents will have an additional 90pp to use to their advantage. You would have been better off running a car with say 380pp.

I am sure some of that is obvious but those are the things I think about win choosing cars and racing.

I will also say that a lot of the fun in this series seems to come from trying out the cars you are going to use. The racing is cool but there will be times that you will be racing by yourself. Of course we have had some really challenging battles also.
 
Oooh... I found something I'm not quite sure I understand:
Each car can only be used in one race and it will be up to the competitor to choose which car they use for each race
So you can take whichever of your 4 cars and use them in whatever order?

And more importantly - when does everyone make this decision? Do you declare before hand or at the time of the race?
(ie: for race 3, I can dither deciding until that moment which car to use next...?)
 
Oooh... I found something I'm not quite sure I understand:

So you can take whichever of your 4 cars and use them in whatever order?
Correct. So your FF may be racing someones MR. Also remember the winner of the previous race gets to pick the next track so you have to think on your feet.
 
Correct. Also remember the winner of the previous race gets to pick the next track so you have to think on your feet.

Yes I only realized that just now.

Very interesting since for example, I always thought of Motegi as kind of a flatter Laguna Seca... but that elevation issue can be huge depending on the type of car.
 
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