I agree with Maddock. And maybe I jsut watch to much Initial D, but late braking is a tool to use jsut as much as neutral steering and throttle control. This is just brake control instead. I'm in no way trying to defend dive bombing. but lets say your cruising down the front straight at Tsukuba, right behind the lead driver. your just a touch faster from the draft, so just as your coming up to the first turn, you pop off to the right and brake a bit later. Beofre reaching the turn in point, you now have the proper overlap. IDK about you, but Im sticking to the pass. So long as both drivers hold their line and the pass is clean, that a wrap. Now if the lead driver cuts down into the trailing drivers line, or the trailing driver understeers and runs up into the lead drivers line, well, thats a no go and then either is open to steward review. But its all part of the race. I guess its just the difference in opinions though. I'm an aggressive driver, I will admit. Just ask Maddock, we trade lots of paint. I dont think I have lost him a position with it though. And I have only bumped him a couple of times enough to take him off his line. Thats more from my inexperience though, and from the fact that the "bumper" is further out in bumper cam then it really should be (its bumper cam PD, the camera is the bumper, not 3 feet in front of the car!). But thats my tactic when I race. I want to be all over the car infront of my. I want the driver to know I'm there and putting on the heat. If the driver is stressing me,, then hes not going to be full focused on the track, and that leads to mistakes that I can then capitalize on. I try my hardest not to touch, and not to bump and trade paint. and I never take a spot if any contact is made what so ever. But I'm also not going to back down and whimp out because someone else cant handle the pressure.