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[nmcp1]

DIY USB adapter for dummies G27 & PS4

I believe he is going to go through his pc (correct me if I'm wrong).

I have an older Vista laptop that I use for Sunday nights which will server as the go between for the PS4 and the G27. My wife recently "dropped" her 1 year old 15" 2 in 1 ASUS and I'm in the process of cobbling that back together to serve as my new Sunday night laptop. @aerolite I'm really interested in your Raspberry solution so I'll be keeping an eye out for your solution.

 

[CoachMK21]

FYI

I have my PS4 and Project Cars now but no wheel. There has been some discussion on another thread about building an adapter to make the other wheels work and a couple of guys have had success, with everything working.
@nmcp1 has mentioned this in a past thread. We both have parts on order, I believe he is going to go through his pc (correct me if I'm wrong). I don't have a pc close by and don't want to take my laptop with me each time I race. I am going to run my adapter through a Raspberry Pi. The entire unit should end up being no bigger than a smart phone. Already have a Pi so total parts is costing $25. You can get Pi's for less than $30 on ebay. I will post results here.
It will sure beat having to buy a new wheel. If it doesn't end up working, I don't mind being out the $25 and a chance of being able to give Logitech and Sony the you know what!

I have an older Vista laptop that I use for Sunday nights which will server as the go between for the PS4 and the G27. My wife recently "dropped" her 1 year old 15" 2 in 1 ASUS and I'm in the process of cobbling that back together to serve as my new Sunday night laptop. @aerolite I'm really interested in your Raspberry solution so I'll be keeping an eye out for your solution.

I am also in the process of this. I received my last part in the mail yesterday and I'm planning on working on this project this weekend. I'll be sure to document everything and put together a write up. I'm going the route of using a laptop, not the Raspberry Pi method.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

So, am I understanding correctly, you guys will have 2 pieces of hardware between your G27 and the PS4? The adapter module and a laptop or Raspberry?

Was also wondering, will there be any "parties" to celebrate the New SNAIL Year? Saturday the 12th is New SNAIL Year's Eve.

 

[STEAMER62]

DP, go with 69 (Haha), you'll get some go old elementary school laughs out of it!

New to this, how do I request a number? Guessing I have to wait until Saturday when I find out what division I'm in.

loool @Alex ONeill , first double post I presume



@Raw10_2u

 

[CoachMK21]

So, am I understanding correctly, you guys will have 2 pieces of hardware between your G27 and the PS4? The adapter module and a laptop or Raspberry?

That seems to be true. This is the process I will be following.

 

[aerolite]

That seems to be true. This is the process I will be following.

That's the same process Nuno and I are following as well. This is great that at least three of us in SNAIL are trying this.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

That's the same process Nuno and I are following as well. This is great that at least three of us in SNAIL are trying this.

While I won't deny anyone the satisfaction of making their current gear work, it would be better for all G27 owners if folks would just not buy the PS4 because it doesn't support their wheel. I know I'll be finding other things to spend my money on until it does.

 

[MSgtGunny]

I am also in the process of this. I received my last part in the mail yesterday and I'm planning on working on this project this weekend. I'll be sure to document everything and put together a write up. I'm going the route of using a laptop, not the Raspberry Pi method.

One thing I noticed while researching parts, one of the parts that the guide says to get off ebay, the pin out on each of them is different, so you have to look at his instructional pictures and see what wire goes to what pin label, not pin position because the positions change depending on which one you get.

 

[Vitessekid]

While I won't deny anyone the satisfaction of making their current gear work, it would be better for all G27 owners if folks would just not buy the PS4 because it doesn't support their wheel. I know I'll be finding other things to spend my money on until it does.

Some can't resist it, we have to keep up with the present. So far GT6 still isn't old stuff yet, but very soon it will, after the GT Sport hype and other even distributions to different racing simulators. And it's not just G27 owners, this is the current list of the wheels which support the method you guys are using:

• G27
• Driving Force GT
• Momo Racing Force Feedback
• Momo Force
• Driving Force Pro
• Logitech Speed Force Wireless
• Formula Force GP (vibration only)

 

[pubason]

Now you spiked my intrest talked to newark and digikey ,newark raspberry pi 1gb is 30.00 dollars I was looking at the case too .This is a sbc single board computer so no lap top is needed in the hook up .But you will need a computer to down load the firmware for the sbc .So it can convert the serial connections of the usb from the wheel to the game .Looks like all the peices are there but does this work ? and how well are all the options there ? If I find something for sure that it works I will post .

 

[CoachMK21]

While I won't deny anyone the satisfaction of making their current gear work, it would be better for all G27 owners if folks would just not buy the PS4 because it doesn't support their wheel. I know I'll be finding other things to spend my money on until it does.

I do understand your point, but in my case, I was gifted a PS4 for free that already has DriveClub. My wife picked up PCars for $20 last week, so I'm only into the whole system for about $50 including all the parts and the game. It's worth it for me

 

[aerolite]

Now you spiked my intrest talked to newark and digikey ,newark raspberry pi 1gb is 30.00 dollars I was looking at the case too .This is a sbc single board computer so no lap top is needed in the hook up .But you will need a computer to down load the firmware for the sbc .So it can convert the serial connections of the usb from the wheel to the game .Looks like all the peices are there but does this work ? and how well are all the options there ? If I find something for sure that it works I will post .

Right, so once you have downloaded software to a Pi, that's it. You would only ever need to connect to computer for any updates. You can make a little box out of just about anything you want.

@Vitessekid Someone seems to have this working on some Fanatec wheels now as well.

 

[Vitessekid]

Right, so once you have downloaded software to a Pi, that's it. You would only ever need to connect to computer for any updates. You can make a little box out of just about anything you want.

@Vitessekid Someone seems to have this working on some Fanatec wheels now as well.

Cool, I just took the list out of this thread: http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sh...B-are-now-playable-on-PS4-via-homebrew-PC-app

I'm looking to race on different games, and Project Cars looks pretty good for a start on the PS4 too.

 

[aerolite]

I'm looking to race on different games, and Project Cars looks pretty good for a start on the PS4 too.

It is really good, I only tried mine for a bit as it sucks with controller, but I tried @Mike Lobban 's on his pc and it didn't disappoint. Game physics are great, and sounds and visuals are amazing, especially watching some of the working parts of the car, like the open wheeled Lotus. I can't wait to get wheel stuff done!

 

[DesertPenguin09]

That's the thing. I'd love to buy a PS4 and Project Cars because it looks amazing, but I also need to spend the cost of a second PS4 on a wheel/shifter/pedal set.

 

[Vitessekid]

That's the thing. I'd love to buy a PS4 and Project Cars because it looks amazing, but I also need to spend the cost of a second PS4 on a wheel/shifter/pedal set.

Did you just completely miss the discussion above?

Does anyone have experience with iRacing? How does it feel?

 

[Dragonwhisky]

Did you just completely miss the discussion above?

Does anyone have experience with iRacing? How does it feel?

Expensive.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

I have a DFGT. I'm not gonna try to make that work on PS4. Nor do I have a good PC.

 

[Vitessekid]

Expensive.

Lol.

I have a DFGT. I'm not gonna try to make that work on PS4. Nor do I have a good PC.

Now I wonder, does the DFGT and all the other old Logitech wheels work on the PC version of Project Cars? I haven't found a thread on that topic yet.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

Lol, there are promo codes to test the game before actually commiting to it..

I joined the iRacing deal for the $5.00 deal a year or so ago. 7 cars and 3 tracks I think. $12.99+- for each car after that and $15.00+- for every track after that. Then, if you really fall down that rabbit hole, you can spend thousands on hardware, just for immersion's sake. That bang just wasn't worth the bucks.

 

[Vitessekid]

I joined the iRacing deal for the $5.00 deal a year or so ago. 7 cars and 3 tracks I think. $12.99+- for each car after that and $15.00+- for every track after that. Then, if you really fall down that rabbit hole, you can spend thousands on hardware, just for immersion's sake. That bang just wasn't worth the bucks.

How many months did you get with 5$? I know, I find the "Recommended Specs" very odd, it's one of the competitors of RFactor 2, yet the "Recommended Specs" are completely different. iRacing is telling me a AMD Radeon 2800+ Series is recommended? Bullcrap.

 

[JLBowler]

I joined the iRacing deal for the $5.00 deal a year or so ago. 7 cars and 3 tracks I think. $12.99+- for each car after that and $15.00+- for every track after that. Then, if you really fall down that rabbit hole, you can spend thousands on hardware, just for immersion's sake. That bang just wasn't worth the bucks.

It's still less expensive than trying to field a real race car on a weekly basis for 8 months out of the year as long as you don't get completely crazy with a full motion rig or some dream rig that runs 80k and takes up a whole room. If someone has that kind of disposable income, go racing for real.

IRacing feels really good from a physics standpoint. It's looks OK at best. They put much more emphasis on getting the feeling correct than they do on the graphics. Substance over eye candy, as a sim should be.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

How many months did you get with 5$? I know, I find the "Recommended Specs" very odd, it's one of the competitors of RFactor 2, yet the "Recommended Specs" are completely different. iRacing is telling me a AMD Radeon 2800+ Series is recommended? Bullcrap.

That $5 got me a month. Spent $100.00 on hardware to send A/V and USB from PC to TV and rig. Didn't enjoy the "feel" of the game at all. You'll spend as much or more time tweaking the game and computer settings as you will actually driving. I did not spend that time so that may be why I didn't get to the point of enjoying it. Again, the iRacing juice just wasn't worth the squeeze for me. Probably be why, when the rest of you are happily screaming about in pCars and GT7, I'll still be putting around with GT6.

 

[Jaguara]

While I won't deny anyone the satisfaction of making their current gear work, it would be better for all G27 owners if folks would just not buy the PS4 because it doesn't support their wheel. I know I'll be finding other things to spend my money on until it does.

Yeah, I am sure Sony will be moved by a few hundred G27 holdouts...same goes for Microsoft on XBone.

It's still less expensive than trying to field a real race car on a weekly basis for 8 months out of the year

Is that really a comparison? Given a choice between those 2 things, I would not hesitate to go "Real" over virtual...unless of course there is a disability or other obstacle to block the person from doing so.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

Yeah, I am sure Sony will be moved by a few hundred G27 holdouts...same goes for Microsoft on XBone.

Yeah, I reckon you're on the money there. However, if just 1 thousand owners of the G27, DFGT, and other Logitech gear those mods are spoofing hardware IDs for, held out for native support, that's $399,000.00. Well, at the current price point, 'tis only $300,000.00, but still. And yeah, that's also a drop in the bucket to a multi-billion dollar company....

Ah well. I managed to live without these kinds of things for years.

It's still less expensive than trying to field a real race car on a weekly basis for 8 months out of the year as long as you don't get completely crazy with a full motion rig or some dream rig that runs 80k and takes up a whole room. If someone has that kind of disposable income, go racing for real.

The appeal of the virtual versus real, regardless of how much is spent on either is, there's no risk of actually killing oneself or others when things go wrong. Might damage your eardrums if the sound system is turned up way high. Hell, you can crash a virtual car at 300MPH and never have to put your beer down. It's the only safe and legal way for thorvas to do what they do.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

I mean, who wouldn't want to have a go at the Devils Elbow?

All the while chuggin some fermented beverage and laughing like a loon, instead of screaming out your last breaths.

 

[Jaguara]

I mean, who wouldn't want to have a go at the Devils Elbow?

All the while chuggin some fermented beverage and laughing like a loon, instead of screaming out your last breaths.

Right, of course...and another advantage should be cost...but when the price of virtual racing approaches the price of actual racing, there is a problem. My point was that saying that iracing was still cheaper than actual racing is not really a comparison that is very useful.

 

[llNovall]

@Raw10_2u , thanks for the practice. My daughter secided it was time to quit and hit the power to the PS3. If I don't see ya, good luck Sunday.

 

[JLBowler]

Right, of course...and another advantage should be cost...but when the price of virtual racing approaches the price of actual racing, there is a problem. My point was that saying that iracing was still cheaper than actual racing is not really a comparison that is very useful.

A guy can go real racing fairly inexpensively depending on what that guy wants to run. It's not unheard of for some guys to go overboard on their sim rigs and approach, or even exceed, the cost of real racing. My point in making the comparison is that you can get a fairly realistic handling model from Iracing for quite a bit less that it would cost to go racing for real as long as you don't go overboard on your set up.

Example: Iracing will run you $15 per track and $13 per car plus a regular subscription rate. Your're probably looking at close to $60 a month until you have all the content to run a series for that month. You have to invest in something of a rig. Consider that you would need a wheel, pedals, something to sit in, and a computer / monitor. Think of that as you race car. These items would probably run you somewhere in the neighborhood of $1000 to $1500 if you needed to putchase all of them and that would be entry level.

Out here, I can go to my local dirt track and claim a 4 banger for $1300 and get everything but the seat and belts. Add that cost to purchase your own along with personal safety gear and a trailer and you can be racing for right around $3500 -$4000 and then it's going to cost you about $60 every time you want to take that car out and race between entry fees and fuel.

The comparison isn't that far apart if you really sit down and look at it. Real racing is going to be more expensive but not by as much as you might think. It all depends on what you want to race and where you want to race it as the expense in Iracing depends on what you want to race and where you want to race it and how much immersion you want while doing so.

 

[Lessen]

You'll spend as much or more time tweaking the game and computer settings as you will actually driving. I did not spend that time so that may be why I didn't get to the point of enjoying it. Again, the iRacing juice just wasn't worth the squeeze for me. Probably be why, when the rest of you are happily screaming about in pCars and GT7, I'll still be putting around with GT6.

PCARS ain't no Sunday drive either. There are enough global settings that can be changed that keep folks busy fiddling.

Me being a controller user makes it very difficult. I've become a lot more comfortable with the game, but in recent testing for WRRC, I've found there are still some cars are that are absurdly difficult to just keep in a straight line with a DS4. I'm just gonna be out to lunch on those nights, and that's just the way it is. These new games offer a ton of setup options and it's easy to convince oneself that the problem is in the game settings rather than the hands. This is something I learned racing rc cars. A lot of it is in peoples heads. The game settings help, that is true; but at some point we have to come to the reality that the more "real" these things become, the harder they get. We don't have to spend hours testing settings, but people do because they sell themselves on the "easy button".