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The below text is taken from here. It would appear after tonight that some of us could use a refresher course and it wouldn't hurt for everyone to be reminded. Specific issues will be dealt with privately so please don't turn this into a chance to complain. Just read it and follow it going forward.

6.2

Sunday Night Race Host and Driver Responsibilities

All Sunday Night Lobbies Will be Club Only Rooms

All drivers must be a member of the SNAIL_SpecRacing club


What the host should do:

1. Between 9 and 9:15 pm Eastern time the host should open a club only room from the club page for the night's racing. This room should be set to the first track from the time it is opened. The host should not allow hot lapping or practice before the start of the race night.

2. The host/director should continue to watch the main thread, refreshing often, until they see a message from JLBowler that it is clear to start racing for the night.

3. Before starting qualifying or any race, the host/director should have all drivers gather in turn one and ask if everyone can see the same number of drivers listed in the upper left corner of the screen. Drivers must be on the track for this and not sitting in the pits. If all drivers don't see the same number of drivers the host should ask those drivers to leave and rejoin while the host waits to start the night. Drivers should not be using this time to run laps or go and drift other parts of the course. Just go sit in turn one and let everyone count so we can get started.

4. The host/director is responsible for handling any lag issues during the night. If a driver is lagging, the host/director should ask them to leave the room, clear their cache, and re-enter the room. The host/director should allow 3 minutes for the driver to take care of this. If the lag is still present, the host/director should ask the driver to leave for the night. If the host/director doesn't make the lagging driver aware of the issue and give them the chance to rectify the issue then the fault lies with the host/director. Most of the time, the driver that is lagging will not know it. Other cars will appear to have slight jittery movements to them. Meanwhile, the driver lagging will be flying all over the track with tires smoking.

What the driver should do:

1. If you can't enter your assigned room because it is full, post in the thread before 9:25 Eastern time and I will make sure drivers are moved. If you wait until 1 or 2 minutes before race time, you run the risk of not being able to get in. We want to start the night on time so that we can finish on time. Do not take it upon yourself to go to a different division and race.

2. If you wait until after JLBowler has given the all clear to start racing to post that a room is full, you're too late. We will not move drivers around to accommodate a late arriving driver.

3. If you are told that you are lagging badly and affecting other drivers, please do the considerate thing and leave in the middle of the race. You will receive last place points but you won't ruin the race for another driver. This will give you extra time to try and get your connection sorted and get back for the next race without holding up the room too much. It's better to get last place points for leaving early to get it sorted than it is to miss the start of the next race and get 0 points if you can't get back to the room in three minutes.

Special Instructions for invisible drivers or glitch race starts.

1. In the event that all drivers are not able to see all other drivers on track the host should ask that all affected drivers leave the room and reenter. If this does not fix the issue any driver that can not be seen by everyone else in the room should be asked to leave the room for the night. Example: Driver A can not see Driver B. The rest of the room can see Driver B but not Driver A. Both drivers should leave the room and reenter. Upon reentering, the problem is the same. Driver A should leave for the night as the rest of the room can't see them. Driver B can stay because the only person that couldn't see them was Driver A.

2. In the event that a driver gets "stuck" on the starting grid, everyone will quit the race and we will restart the race with the grid set manually. If the driver gets "stuck" in this manual grid race, they should press start and sit through the race. After that race is over, the room should close and switch to the back up host for the next race. If that host gets "stuck" on the grid, follow the same procedure that is listed above.

Note: Do not spend any more time on these issues than what is listed here. The schedule is very tight as it is and we don't want the night's racing to go on until the wee hours of the morning.


Special instructions for “fixed host” rooms.

Rooms should only be operated as “fixed host” if you have been given permission from SNAIL administration to operate the room as “fixed host”.

If the room is being run as “fixed host” and the hosts gets disconnected, they entire room will close. If this occurs during a race, you will have to restart the race. If this occurs during the race countdown or before the race results can be entered, you will have to rerun the race. In order for results to be official, there will need to be a replay saved or at least two photos of the finish screen with all drivers finished or the time expired and the results entered. As long as one of these two requirements are met, results can be entered from that information immediately after the night’s racing is completed.

These are not suggestions or guidelines. These instructions must be followed by all hosts and drivers. If you are a host and can't or won't be willing to follow this policy, please let us know and we will work to find a host who can and will follow this policy.
 
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Data Specialists do your thang!
 
D5 Data has been completed. We had 5 different drivers stand on the top spot of the podium for the races. 3 different pole winners. We had 6 different drivers run fastest lap.

@McTrucker finished third overall for the night.
@aerolite had a great showing in his first Sunday Night races since January finishing second overall for the night.
@MarkR420 finished first overall for the night.
 
I see there is a lot of "dislike" for Team Penske. Seems the rules are always different for all the Hendrick/Gibbs/Stewart-Haas drivers. Going back to last year with Brad and Jeff, if the tables were turned and Jeff had taken the spot from Brad and cut his tire, that would have been just racing, but the other way around he's a dirty driver. Kenseth blocked and blocked a faster driver and got turned. If that was Dale Earnhardt Sr. being blocked, I'm pretty sure the same thing would have happened and nobody would have said a thing. What Kenseth did to Logano @ Martinsville was just sour grapes and bad sportsmanship. Yesterday Jimmy Johnson had the faster car at the end. Brad could have blocked and tried to do the same thing Kenseth did @ Kansas but instead he did what Kenseth should have done. He tried everything he could to take Jimmy's line and slow him but he knew Jimmy had the better car and he let him by. If Kenseth had done the same, there would have been no issue but he chose to block and it cost him. Say what you will, Brad and Joey are talented drivers and they will win their share of races. Remember when Jeff Gordon was a young driver and he had his run in's with Dale Sr? He was not liked by a lot of people who now are rooting for him in his final season.
 
It's all about who you know...rules don't get enforced equally to everyone here...
It has come to my attention (mostly because he PM'd me and also because I have recently been following GGG's PCARS thread) that @JoeW has been banned from all GT6 Snail threads. And the only evidence I can find as to why is the above post (his last in this thread).

Besides all the helpful posts I have seen from him, the last post is not even inflammatory...it's pretty much the truth (most places you go and in life in general).

Just looking at several of his more recent posts here all I see are helpful replies. And a minor jab or two months ago but nothing that would constitute a banning.

I was on the fence about returning for the holidays but I'm not certain now.

I had a lot of other things written but I decided to wait and see how this plays out before name names.
 
It has come to my attention (mostly because he PM'd me and also because I have recently been following GGG's PCARS thread) that @JoeW has been banned from all GT6 Snail threads. And the only evidence I can find as to why is the above post (his last in this thread).

Besides all the helpful posts I have seen from him, the last post is not even inflammatory...it's pretty much the truth (most places you go and in life in general).

Just looking at several of his more recent posts here all I see are helpful replies. And a minor jab or two months ago but nothing that would constitute a banning.

I was on the fence about returning for the holidays but I'm not certain now.

I had a lot of other things written but I decided to wait and see how this plays out before name names.
I hope @JoeW still races in the Pcars ?series, we still have the PS4 community to communicate and he won't have to look here.
 
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Good luck to all
 
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It has come to my attention (mostly because he PM'd me and also because I have recently been following GGG's PCARS thread) that @JoeW has been banned from all GT6 Snail threads. And the only evidence I can find as to why is the above post (his last in this thread).

Besides all the helpful posts I have seen from him, the last post is not even inflammatory...it's pretty much the truth (most places you go and in life in general).

Just looking at several of his more recent posts here all I see are helpful replies. And a minor jab or two months ago but nothing that would constitute a banning.

I was on the fence about returning for the holidays but I'm not certain now.

I had a lot of other things written but I decided to wait and see how this plays out before name names.

Somehow, I think he'll get over it quickly. Forced or voluntary, he's another addition this year to a growing list of folks who have left SNAIL either all or in part for the same reason.
 
It has come to my attention (mostly because he PM'd me and also because I have recently been following GGG's PCARS thread) that @JoeW has been banned from all GT6 Snail threads. And the only evidence I can find as to why is the above post (his last in this thread).

Besides all the helpful posts I have seen from him, the last post is not even inflammatory...it's pretty much the truth (most places you go and in life in general).

Just looking at several of his more recent posts here all I see are helpful replies. And a minor jab or two months ago but nothing that would constitute a banning.
He wasn't banned because of one post. It's was a body of work built over an extended period of time. If you're curious to know specifics, feel from to PM me.

I was on the fence about returning for the holidays but I'm not certain now.
Please don't feel like there is any pressure on you to return. Sim racing is a hobby and SNAIL is a not-for-profit league that is run by volunteers. If at any time you feel this league is not for you, please know that there is absolutely no obligation to race with us. There are many other great leagues where you can race, both on GTPlanet and off. Again, feel free to PM me if you'd like some recommendations.

I had a lot of other things written but I decided to wait and see how this plays out before name names.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but there isn't anything that will "play out". I have no idea what you mean by naming names, but if that's somehow a threat of retaliation if he isn't unbanned, then by all means start naming names I guess. Just keep in mind that making public accusations (his were delusional accusations, but that's besides the point) against others is one of the reasons he got banned. More specifically, multiple violations of this policy. It's the same reason we don't allow racing incidents to be discussed on the thread. Simply put, if you have a beef with someone, send a PM because personal drama is not welcome on the thread. You don't have to agree with that policy, just like you don't have to race with us. However, the policy is designed to protect the efforts of all those who are dedicated to contributing to the league from those who are just here because they have an axe to grind.
 

Here are the unofficial results from our league night on November 8, 2015

Click here for this season's points standings and click a tab at the bottom for more detail.

Click here if the data linked above has already been archived and you would like to view it.


Division 1
  1. gtr3123 ----------- voted to eliminate Round 2 - 90 (85.34 for Prize B)
  2. dgafaboutany1420 -- voted to eliminate Round 1
  3. ConnorWolf -------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  4. Nic-KL ------------ voted to eliminate Round 1
  5. msgt-sd ----------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  6. JACKOLANTERN31 ---- did not submit a vote
  7. MSgtGunny --------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  8. ness24_O ---------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  9. ONESPACE ---------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  10. trobes29 ---------- did not submit a vote
  11. Xrad-11 ----------- did not submit a vote
Division 2
  1. Encvell ----------- voted to eliminate Round 1 - 91 (84.87 for Prize C)
  2. nmcp1 ------------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  3. turnupdaheat ------ voted to eliminate Round 3
  4. kgffty ------------ voted to eliminate Round 1
  5. kickenit4evr ------ voted to eliminate Round 3
  6. MikeGrove --------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  7. pakicote ---------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  8. RayzaBlayz -------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  9. Sand__68 ---------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  10. DoublePass -------- voted to eliminate Round 1
Division 3
  1. TomMang_68 -------- voted to eliminate Round 1 - 78 (80.02 for prize purposes only)
  2. quiltingchloe ----- voted to eliminate Round 3
  3. USERID_77a23 ------ voted to eliminate Round 2
  4. JJLopez_427 ------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  5. Grandpas_Money ---- voted to eliminate Round 2
  6. II-NOVA-II -------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  7. jlbowler ---------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  8. Wsk96 ------------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  9. WIDEeyedDRIVER ---- voted to eliminate Round 1
  10. TheKing259__ ------ voted to eliminate Round 1
  11. lllTrick ---------- voted to eliminate Round 1
Division 4
  1. CallmeMike41 ------ voted to eliminate Round 2 - 76.1 (112.38 for Prize A)
  2. Onyx58 ------------ voted to eliminate Round 2
  3. MajorBlixem ------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  4. BKM-540 ----------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  5. BlackOut__Nasseh -- voted to eliminate Round 1
  6. JamCar0ne --------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  7. flip_jj ----------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  8. singlepaddy ------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  9. canuckleheadII ---- voted to eliminate Round 1
  10. Jaguara333 -------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  11. Danimal780 -------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  12. Rpm1990 ----------- did not submit a vote
  13. Die_Birdy_Die ----- voted to eliminate Round 2
  14. EBishiop ---------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  15. Engmatic1 --------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  16. goofytyler1995 ---- voted to eliminate Round 2
Division 5
  1. MarkR420 ---------- voted to eliminate Round 2 - 89 (80.24 for prize purposes only)
  2. aeroliteflight ---- voted to eliminate Round 2
  3. McTrucker000 ------ voted to eliminate Round 3
  4. Drewspeed --------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  5. lobbanmike -------- did not submit a vote
  6. TEX-36 ------------ voted to eliminate Round 1
  7. RacingChamp30 ----- voted to eliminate Round 1
  8. Middy65 ----------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  9. mbracer11 --------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  10. RPM_mrnascar2424 -- voted to eliminate Round 2
  11. zpower86 ---------- voted to eliminate Round 1
Division 6
  1. WraithQueen8 ------ voted to eliminate Round 1 - 91 (65.06 for prize purposes only)
  2. Raw10_2u ---------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  3. o8jedi ------------ voted to eliminate Round 2
  4. pubason ----------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  5. sinna123sinna123 -- voted to eliminate Round 1
  6. basswerks1 -------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  7. Polygrizz --------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  8. rkzjb04 ----------- voted to eliminate Round 2
The round that received the most elimination votes was:
Round 1 - Toyota SUPERAUTOBACS APEX MR-S '00 (Sports: Soft) at Circuito de Madrid / Forward (8 laps)
Therefore the entire combo has been dropped from next week's line-up. Since @Adramike wins Prize A, he gets to choose an entirely new car and track combo to replace it.

The round that received the second most elimination votes was:
Round 2 - Toyota Supra GT500 Base Model '05 (Racing: Hard) at Twin Ring Motegi Road Course (6 laps)
This means either the car or the track will be replaced for next week's line-up. Since @gtr3123 gets Prize B, he has the option to freeze the car or the track, or he can give that option to the Prize C winner. If he gives the freeze away, then he gets to decide what car or track replaces the part of the combo that is left unfrozen by the Prize C winner. NOTE: @Encvel won Prize B last week, therefore he would be locked into Prize C this week if the results stand. We have a policy that nobody can win the same prize twice in the same month. Therefore, that would mean that @gtr3123 would have to keep Prize B.

Prize C goes to @Encvel so he gets whichever option the Prize B winner does not select.

Preliminary prize winners, please don't announce your prize selection until all incident reports have been filed and it has been confirmed that you don't have any penalties. It's also recommended that you review the SNAIL combo history and other data on our car and track history so that you can get an idea how many times we've raced each car and track. Please remember that originality is always appreciated, so picking cars and tracks that we've never raced is a plus (but not required). What's more important is that you thoroughly test any combo that you are considering before making it your official selection. For example, any car you select should not hit its rev limiter at any point during a race (even in the draft).

IMPORTANT: When posting your Prize A or Prize B selection, please list the complete in-game name of the car and/or track you are selecting. For example, if you want to select the Amuse Superlegara for your car, post "Amuse Nismo 380 RS Superlagara". If you want to select Monza for a track, post "Autodromo Nazionale Monza". This makes it much easier for the lineup to be updated accurately and also prevents confusing other league members as to which car or track you are selecting. Also, please be sure to list the PP and HP (after oil change) of any car you select.

Car Selection Guidelines
Dealership Cars - The maximum price for a selected car is now $1,000,000
DLC Cars - Only DLC cars that are FREE and currently still available in the PlayStation Store can be selected.

Track Selection Guidelines
Any non-DLC track can be selected as long as a single lap with the car combo'd with it would not take more than five minutes to complete. For example, don't select anything that includes the Nurburgring's Nordschleife.
 
View media item 2540Race Date: Nov. 9, 2015
Currently tracking 6 Incident Reports
We have at least one prize winner with a racing incident being investigated by the stewards. This may, obviously, change the order of the prizes to be selected. All winners are asked to refrain from making selections until the Weekly Steward's report has been posted.
The target deadline for the Steward Reviews, this week, is Wednesday night by 10PM Eastern. The Steward Summary will be posted as soon as possible, following completion of reviews.
:@: SNAIL Stewards, please make your way to The Incident Review Scoring.​
The IR Submission Form is now closed.

The prize B and C winners, @gtr3123 and @Encvel are clear to make their choices. Prize A will have to wait until the stewards can get some IRs reviewed.
 
He wasn't banned because of one post. It's was a body of work built over an extended period of time. If you're curious to know specifics, feel from to PM me.


Please don't feel like there is any pressure on you to return. Sim racing is a hobby and SNAIL is a not-for-profit league that is run by volunteers. If at any time you feel this league is not for you, please know that there is absolutely no obligation to race with us. There are many other great leagues where you can race, both on GTPlanet and off. Again, feel free to PM me if you'd like some recommendations.


I'm sorry to disappoint you, but there isn't anything that will "play out". I have no idea what you mean by naming names, but if that's somehow a threat of retaliation if he isn't unbanned, then by all means start naming names I guess. Just keep in mind that making public accusations (his were delusional accusations, but that's besides the point) against others is one of the reasons he got banned. More specifically, multiple violations of this policy. It's the same reason we don't allow racing incidents to be discussed on the thread. Simply put, if you have a beef with someone, send a PM because personal drama is not welcome on the thread. You don't have to agree with that policy, just like you don't have to race with us. However, the policy is designed to protect the efforts of all those who are dedicated to contributing to the league from those who are just here because they have an axe to grind.

Don't worry. There was no pressure to return. I felt this league was not for me when I left the first time (the same reasons many have left). But there are some folks here that are nice to talk to on occasion. So I pop in from time to time to offer my tidbits.

I wasn't going to start some sort of war if that's what you are referring to with my name names comment. If someone else were to reply with a certain type of rhetoric then I was at the ready though.

I know exactly what comments JoeW posted because I was involved in that conversation at that time as well...and of course...the search feature is handy when details are required.

I wasn't going to start flinging accusations because that would imply I would be accusing someone of something. Guilty parties are already guilty because the facts were in place. Accusations would not have been necessary.

Anywho...this organization has definitely become a collective run by the iron fisted few (two)...well one, with a barely present figure head. Banning people simply because of different opinions is...well, you know. And calling someone's truthful statements "delusional" and then banning them is very...well, you know.

Good luck with the league and hopefully the drones stay around for GT7. Eventually the iron fisted one (with the big red delete and ban buttons) might retire and then the rest of flock who left might come back for some more fun.

It really was a hoot racing and digressing with many of you...but sometimes it only takes one big bad apple to ruin the racing fun.

I'll still hang and digress peacefully and monitor the career path of some.
 
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Reminder that you have until midnight tonight to log times in the following Time Trials

Toyota SuperAutoBacs Apex MR-S at Circuito De Madrid

Supra GT-500 at Twin Ring Motegi Road Course.
Click the banner at the top, or this link, to see all recorded Time Trial rankings. Tabs for each are at the bottom.
 
View media item 2540Race Date: Nov. 9, 2015
Currently tracking 6 Incident Reports
We have at least one prize winner with a racing incident being investigated by the stewards. This may, obviously, change the order of the prizes to be selected. All winners are asked to refrain from making selections until the Weekly Steward's report has been posted.
The target deadline for the Steward Reviews, this week, is Wednesday night by 10PM Eastern. The Steward Summary will be posted as soon as possible, following completion of reviews.
:@: SNAIL Stewards, please make your way to The Incident Review Scoring.​
The IR Submission Form is now closed.

The prize B and C winners, @gtr3123 and @Encvel are clear to make their choices. Prize A will have to wait until the stewards can get some IRs reviewed.


Prize B winner @gtr3123 and prize C winner @Encvel . You two are clear to make your choices. As @zer05ive stated in the results post, Encvel is locked into prize C so he is up now. Choose to freeze the car or the track.
 
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