There's a HUGE difference between an error and a variation.
Exactly what was said. Calling a production error an officially listed variation is misinformation.
But don't feel like explaining it since it'll just turn into another scrappy debate.
There was no explanation; just a breakdown of the facts concerning the situation of photos possibly posted in a fraudulent manner and whether 'wheel variations' posted could be factory products or just the result of a drill at home, or even clever editing.
I'll just collect what I collect and keep it to myself I guess. Nobody cares when I share anything anyway.
Not true - and I'm quite puzzled that you would have that mindset. You help out many people here with cars, and go to a lot of trouble to bring new information and even go so far as to offer in advance to purchase stuff for people and so on - I would think a
lot of people care about what you do in here.
I do, though I have never traded with you - I would if I could - but I've made just one trade in here (even in all the years I have been here) because I don't have the time for all the hassle. The best I can do is offer to send free cars to people who are in some form of dire straits (
Not you, Dr. Nessy!) and actually not expect anything in return.
In fact I traded once with Andy - great trade, speedily done, nicely packaged - and it's still all in the box, packaging and all - I didn't really need the cars; I wanted to give him what he had seen of my spares and asked for.
Basically, no time to really get into the thrill of the trade.
However, when I see you encourage it in here, and offer to source cars, and I hear about packages, and boxes being filled up and going all over the place, Mexico, Australia, etc, it makes me happy to see such activity and such cooperation from everybody, and the help you all give each other.
Sure, those personal chattings about postage, and prices, etc, might take up a lot of posts, and be thoroughly boring to those not involved, who only wish to discuss a hundred other aspects of the hobby, but it also keeps us involved as to what is going on in the HW world, and who likes what, and what is hot and what is not.
So - in short, I can't speak for the others - but, yes, I care about what you do and what you share. 👍
Don't forget the fancy glass case!
You . . . you . . .urgh!
Obviously I was thinking at the speed of thought - or light? if I had to translate in words what I was thinking as I scrolled was:
Hmmm . . . a6m5 . . cars he got today . . hmfp . . jeez nice cars . . WTF . . he's into showcases now . . bastard . . man, nice cases, what's in that Toyota box . . FFS . . so many good cars? Bastard 🤬 so nicely 🤬 labelled and all. Damn, he's doing a really great job, 🤬 Unbelievable---What? Speedhunters? Speed -you . . bloody . . sick . . .uuurghhhman . . . . hahahahahaha.
At which point I guess my brain had registered that you were pulling my leg.
Good one. You really had me going - I should scroll faster.
Great job laying down your take on this debate, by the way. 👍
Thank you. Well, it wasn't anything too heated - we all disagree about something or another now and then - but burning bridges is never a wise thing; you never know when you may need one.
We must try to stick to the facts as much as possible - but it's supposed to be a hobby, anyway, not a lifestyle or a career - just between friends.
There is no real harm in a little 'neigh'-ing now and then. Nay?
I'll just say that I still trust Andy, along with most veteran members of this thread.
I tend to trust everybody right away - though to be sure trust is something that is built up, nay, even earned.
I might trust people right away to be ignorant (and therefore will treat them with that in mind) or trust them to be mindful - in which case I know how far to go with them.
Trusting people not to lie or be prevaricative is another thing (remember there is actually a thread on that, and a hilarious one, too - ) and obviously with the filtered nature of the internet a lot of what is said or shown can be merely the work of Photoshop, or worse the shenanigans of Cleverbot Jr., but, as you say - veterans - that comes from getting to know the person and dealing with them.
Personally speaking, I have no reason not to trust anyone here - sure, there might be a bit of hype, and bragging, but that's the nature of the game and it's all in good sport.
Lying to outwit, demean, or part someone from their cash or valuables is what I would call untrustworthy (that's quite a harsh term, and is defamatory) - and surely, Andy is not that.
New members, I've yet to suspect anyone, except there was one kid(forget his name/handle) who was posting prototypes, etc., but I still believed him, his posts in the end.
That was
Ace; he was quite a nice kid - and I took him at his word (maybe there was a lot he said that matched up with certain realities of which I was aware.) He also successfully answered certain questions I put to him. Sure, there was some hype that costumed the truth, but the truth was solid. We have to be careful not to throw out what
is true just because some of it is false. He, was, though, disbelieved by many, and even ended up (for some half-truths) as a Ludicrous Claimant.
Honesty is the best policy - and yes, in the end it's all about honour.
If some got thru, or truth was bent somewhere, it wouldn't concern me really all that much to be honest. It's frigging hot wheel cars, at least to me.
This is what we should remember. This is where we shouldn't throw out the baby with the bathwater - just because someone's ego gets bruised, or someone else gets frustrated at not getting the point through - we should learn to move on, because the stakes here are quite different to that.
The stakes here are about enjoying the hobby and enjoying each others company; basically hanging out chewing the fat about die-casts, showing off our different collections (and it's the difference that is also very enjoyable), swapping info, getting into trades . . . all that fun activity that really goes into satisfying the passion we feel about these little toy cars.
Dang it . . . typing is hard work
No wonder I mostly post pictures.