2004 Australian GP Result

[darklegion_ca]

Booya another 1,2 for ferrari oh ya i smell another title for them.

 

[vat_man]

Mate! Don't give away the result in the thread title - people are taping the race and will want to watch it without knowing the result. That said (and yes this is a straight copy from my gilesguthrie.com post):
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Well, that bordered on horrific. I know the cool conditions didn't suit Michelin, but gee whiz, that was a hiding of epic proportions.

McLaren are in hideous trouble - they look to be behind BAR and Webber's Jaguar. Williams once again managed to trip over themselves, and if Alonso is as on it all season as he was today Montoya and Ralf might be battling to keep up with him.

Toyota look dreadful - I mean, they were awful - my outrageously early tip - Panis won't last the season, he'll either retire or get booted. Jordan and Minardi look like they won't score points. I have no idea of what to make of Sauber's performance, although I enjoyed Massa's 'spin and continue'.
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[Solid Lifters]

You're watching Speed Channel too, huh? I missed most of the race. The boys wanted to watch a movie with me, but I popped in from time to time. How was it?

 

[vat_man]

Results:

1. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari
2. BARRICHELLO Ferrari
3. ALONSO Renault
4. R.SCHUMACHER Williams BMW
5. MONTOYA Williams BMW
6. BUTTON BAR Honda
7. TRULLI Renault
8. COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes
9. SATO BAR Honda
10. FISICHELLA Sauber Petronas
11. KLIEN Jaguar Cosworth
12. DA MATTA Toyota
13. PANIS Toyota
14. PANTANO Jordan Ford
15. MASSA Sauber Petronas DNF
16. HEIDFELD Jordan Ford DNF
17. BRUNI Minardi Cosworth DNF
18. WEBBER Jaguar Cosworth DNF
19. BAUMGARTNER Minardi Cosworth DNF
20. RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes DNF

 

[vat_man]

Originally posted by Solid Lifters
You're watching Speed Channel too, huh? I missed most of the race. The boys wanted to watch a movie with me, but I popped in from time to time. How was it?

Nah - check the location! It's telecast live here (it's about 3:45 pm here).

 

[Solid Lifters]

Originally posted by vat_man
Nah - check the location! It's telecast live here (it's about 3:45 pm here).

I guess I should have quoted dl_ca, I was refering to his SoCal location, but your post wasn't up when I made mine. Sorry for the confusion.

Oh, thanks for the list. I wanted to know if the second Renault car finished in a position for some points, and they did. I want Renault to win this year, but it looks like Ferrari is gonna play hardball, again.

 

[millencolin]

damn webbers gearbox

 

[vat_man]

No problems. I got the impression Ferrari could have gone further on with it and just about lapped the field, except maybe for Alonso.

Trulli had a pretty solid race. Renault will put up a pretty solid result in the constructors - they've definitely taken a step forward from last year.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Did you hear what Alonso said after the race about is run-in with Montoya? He was right, BTW. I hate Montoya, and don't worry, I don't want to see him die!

 

[vat_man]

Looked like a pretty standard first corner incident - I imagine Montoya was pretty hot under the collar after screwing the start.

They're just interviewing Mick Doohan (pit lane reporter for the local broadcaster) and he made some quite valid points about Montoya's consistency and his being prone to silly mistakes. He threw away three points today - and you need only look at last season's totals to realise how important three points are.

 

[scuderia229]

Ferrari didn't work hard enough all winter and bridgestone can't compete anymore....blah. Granted Au favors both but god damn my beloved Scuderia really put a stamp on the weekend. Congrats to the guys in red!!!

Kimi will be in red overalls next season, his 04 title hope is over....McLaren should break the MPd17 out again....

I guess the Honda Pace was real...I was cheering for Jenson all day, 6th is good but a podium would have been better.

Williams...yawn....

poor webber! Get him into a REAL car, not that damn green one.

Sauber...umm..what happened...yawn.

Reanult!!!!!!! Amazing...

my revised constructors finish ofr 04
1) Ferrari
2) Renault
3) Williams
4) Honda
5) McLaren
6) Sauber (close behind McLaren)

The next few races should be interesting. As much as I love Ferrair I hope we don't see a repeat of 2002....F1 doesn't need that.

 

[darklegion_ca]

Originally posted by Solid Lifters
I guess I should have quoted dl_ca, I was refering to his SoCal location, but your post wasn't up when I made mine. Sorry for the confusion.

Oh, thanks for the list. I wanted to know if the second Renault car finished in a position for some points, and they did. I want Renault to win this year, but it looks like Ferrari is gonna play hardball, again.

Umm i live in alberta canada not socal.

 

[Johnny]

Ferrari -> perfect. 1,2 PS: Barrichello had problems with his brakes after the 2nd pit stop. Because of this he was not able to continue to run close to Michael.

Williams -> Montoya bad start and pit stop team not helping put him down. Anyway, the results in the end were good.

Renault -> For now, the best after Ferrari. Alonso great start and driving. Trulli did the safe way and got some points too. Good work

BAR -> BAR is doing an amazing job. Heh, their problem was Jacques Villeneuve. The man left, and everything starts to work great . Button and Sato did an amazing job.

Sauber -> Massa was pushing hard, trying to prove he's good. The spin and continue was incredible. Too bad the engine died on him. He deserved at least a 10 place. Sauber is a good team, but i'm kinda annoyed with "Fisico" performance. He raced more on out of the track than on the track itself. Does he want to go rally?

Toyota -> I'm very dissapointed. After last year amazing development, this year car seems to be very problematic and not so fast. Da Matta and Panis did what they could : Finish the race;

McLaren -> Everybody is dissapointed. After all work ( started before everybody else ) the car had problems. They practise less than everybody else in Albert Park, probably foreseeing Engine problems. Result: Raikonnen out in the first race and Coulthard struggling to finish 8th. The year does not look bright for Ron Dennis.

Jaguar -> continue to having problems, Webber does amazing things with "that" car. Klien? Can't say much of him, but he finished the race after all.

Jordan -> I think eddie has bigger problems than last year. The car is slow, no sponsors,... Heidfeld is a good driver, but Pantano already did stupid things. Almost got an strike on the pit stop mechanics.

Minardi -> We can't expect much of it, but it's our mascot. Bruni and Baumgartner did not finished, and seem to be very unexperienced. If i'm not mistaked Baumgartner is kinda of a Drifter. On the pre-qualifying he did most of the corners drifiting

 

[Roo]

Don't know what anyone else thought, but that race was so boring, espically after last year. There were a few good battles, particularly the ones with a Sauber in them, but they rarely resulted in an overtaking manoeuvres. After the first pit stops, there was about 3 seconds or more between everyone, apart from the Williams who weren't doing anything anyway. Yes Ferrari did a good job, but it was very 2002-ish.

 

[wee_man]

Originally posted by scuderia229


poor webber! Get him into a REAL car, not that damn green one.

BOO!!

Why does everyone say that the Jag is crap and it's just Webber ?!?! Ok it was the car that let him down today, but I think Jag have come on a lot over the winter and will be up there with BAR. I'm not saying Webber's crap (I think he's actually saved Jaguar), but the car must be alright as well.
BTW I heard somewhere that if Jaguar finish 6th or higher this year in the constructors then Webber may stay with them. Anyone else heard this?

Roo: I comletly agree, it was good at the beggining, but it rapidly turned into a precesion about half way through.

 

[Darin]

I still think Montoya coulda won if Alonso did scoot into the grass then got closer to him. Then Montoya lost a great amount of Postions.

Originally posted by darklegion_ca
Booya another 1,2 for ferrari oh ya i smell another title for them.

I guess you one of those weird people who only root for the winning people, huh? Poor Sole. (as in shoe soles)

 

[wee_man]

Pos No Driver Team Lap Average Speed Time

1 1 M. SCHUMACHER Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro 29 226.933 1:24.125

2 2 R. BARRICHELLO Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro 8 226.788 1:24.179

3 8 F. ALONSO Mild Seven Renault F1 Team 10 224.365 1:25.088

4 3 J. MONTOYA BMW WilliamsF1 Team 42 223.844 1:25.286

5 4 R. SCHUMACHER BMW WilliamsF1 Team 11 222.441 1:25.824

6 14 M. WEBBER Jaguar Racing 15 222.110 1:25.952

7 9 J. BUTTON Lucky Strike BAR Honda 24 222.032 1:25.982

8 10 T. SATO Lucky Strike BAR Honda 43 221.787 1:26.077

9 7 J. TRULLI Mild Seven Renault F1 Team 9 221.278 1:26.275

10 11 G. FISICHELLA Sauber Petronas 39 221.260 1:26.282

11 5 D. COULTHARD West McLaren Mercedes 13 221.142 1:26.328

12 12 F. MASSA Sauber Petronas 11 219.823 1:26.846

13 18 N. HEIDFELD Jordan Ford 27 218.173 1:27.503

14 17 O. PANIS Panasonic Toyota Racing 35 217.417 1:27.807

15 16 C. DA MATTA Panasonic Toyota Racing 41 217.385 1:27.820

16 15 C. KLIEN Jaguar Racing 6 217.336 1:27.840

17 6 K. RAIKKONEN West McLaren Mercedes 7 217.098 1:27.936

18 19 G. PANTANO Jordan Ford 15 215.659 1:28.523

19 20 G. BRUNI Minardi Cosworth 10 211.741 1:30.161

20 21 Z. BAUMGARTNER Minardi Cosworth 8 210.666 1:30.621

Here's the fastest laps of the race. Not great, I have to confess I simply lifted it from F1.com.

 

[darklegion_ca]

Originally posted by Darin
I still think Montoya coulda won if Alonso did scoot into the grass then got closer to him. Then Montoya lost a great amount of Postions.




I guess you one of those weird people who only root for the winning people, huh? Poor Sole. (as in shoe soles)

No i would have liked to see kimi win it too but ferrari is my main team i go with.

 

[James1985]

ferrari took the piss completely, all the winter hype about this being one of the closest season ever all came to nothing. Mclaren in major crisis. bridgestone have got there act togeather. if in sapang we get a repeat peformance (hope we dont) This season
and the sport could go into crisis.

f1 is my favorite sport but this race was very boring there were hardly any overtaking in the hole race. fans dont want to see cars overtaking in the pits.

 

[vat_man]

Originally posted by wee_man
Here's the fastest laps of the race. Not great, I have to confess I simply lifted it from F1.com.

Nice post, wee_man - I didn't realise Alonso had run at that pace. I'd assumed Montoya had done a quicker lap than the Renault.

Interesting also that Monty's fastest lap was 6 tenths faster than Ralf's best, too.

Raikkonen's engine must have never been right in the race, going by that lap time.

That also confirms how rubbish the Toyotas were.

 

[Mike Rotch]

Well, it seems again that Ferrari are the only one's to have arrived at the first race "on form". Those critics saying testing at "private tracks" is bad must be eating their words. They were really on the money from the get go.

McLaren seem to have lost the plot. Mis-handling chassis and underpowered engine (due to lowered revs for reliability) really made them look like also rans.

Renault and particularly Alonso looked very sharp. Everybody is bleating Monty and Kimi, but he is also in with a good shout if he and Renault continue like this.

Montoya showed again how his ego is his biggest barrier. Couldnt surrender the corner to a rival, and like Austria 2001 and Nurburg 2002 he cost himself positions. What a ponce.

And it seems Bridgestone have done their homework. Yes the race was in "cool" conditions, but qualifying wasnt. The next race should clear things up more.

Poor old Toyota. Mixing it with Jordan is a step back. And Fisi looked out of sorts too.

All in all, a swanky day for Ferrari

 

[Race Idiot]

All I can say is, at least Button and Bar did well.

 

[Bollocks#999]

From where I was standing (outside and on the exit of Turn 14) the Ferraris had a setup right from the start of Friday practice, no other car was even close to coming through there like the 2 red cars
Sounded like the ferraris were dragging the brake through 14 while it was quite audible from every other car, you could here when they picked up the throttle

On another note, as much as I'll barrack for Ferrari, this sort of performance does not bode well for the rest of the season, and the other teams, especially McLaren, should be deeply worried by this perfomance

 

[darklegion_ca]

Originally posted by Bollocks#999
From where I was standing (outside and on the exit of Turn 14) the Ferraris had a setup right from the start of Friday practice, no other car was even close to coming through there like the 2 red cars
Sounded like the ferraris were dragging the brake through 14 while it was quite audible from every other car, you could here when they picked up the throttle

On another note, as much as I'll barrack for Ferrari, this sort of performance does not bode well for the rest of the season, and the other teams, especially McLaren, should be deeply worried by this perfomance

Ya they were saying on SPEED that there brakes must be having some kind of problem, from all the brake dust that was on the side pod air intakes.