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Formula 1 Heineken Gran Premio D’italia 2021Formula 1
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Max was still on the track though, what Maldonado did was just stupid and Max would be 100% at fault had he been off the track, but he wasn't.
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Do you really want me to respond to this, how do you think it will go?
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Daniel's wish comes true. Present of Zak for winning this Monza GP.
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Verstappen came out on top today.
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"The incident could have been avoided if I had been left enough space to make the corner."
But when he's in front the other person has to back off. Complete nonsense.
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Engine swap for Max' car in Sochi was already planned.
Good the real experts/stewards made their decision and gave Max a three place grid penalty.
Good the real experts/stewards made their decision and gave Max a three place grid penalty.
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As a life long mclaren fan this is a great day.
Max getting a penalty is not surprising as it was a move against Hamilton, blessed doesn't like it when other racers bite back.
Should be interesting when Russell joins merc next season 👀
Love a bit of drama between championship contenders, bottas never quite delivered that.
Max getting a penalty is not surprising as it was a move against Hamilton, blessed doesn't like it when other racers bite back.
Should be interesting when Russell joins merc next season 👀
Love a bit of drama between championship contenders, bottas never quite delivered that.
Just watched the race, my 2 cents are that it's a reverse of the Silverstone crash. Both contributed to it but this time Max was more at fault because he should have backed out, although HAM should have given him more space.
It really was pretty much the same as L1T4, except on that occasion HAM did the sensible thing and backed off whilst Max, as usual, did not. Once he was forced off the track he essentially just drove straight into HAM, who was giving him space once he got to the T2 apex. So as I say, both did things wrong but ultimately MAX caused the contact by not backing out.
I mean, where is he planning to go at this point?
He's never going to make the corner even if HAM gets magically taken away by aliens, and he knows full well where HAM is. Poor judgement again from VER even if he wasn't entirely to blame.
Great result for McLaren though, long deserved they got back up there and they didn't just inherit it either.
EDIT: If you look at the L1T4 incident it's not exactly the same because the gap between the two corners of the chicane is much greater but this is the line HAM would have to take to mirror the accident. But he didn't, he did the sensible thing.
It really was pretty much the same as L1T4, except on that occasion HAM did the sensible thing and backed off whilst Max, as usual, did not. Once he was forced off the track he essentially just drove straight into HAM, who was giving him space once he got to the T2 apex. So as I say, both did things wrong but ultimately MAX caused the contact by not backing out.
I mean, where is he planning to go at this point?
He's never going to make the corner even if HAM gets magically taken away by aliens, and he knows full well where HAM is. Poor judgement again from VER even if he wasn't entirely to blame.
Great result for McLaren though, long deserved they got back up there and they didn't just inherit it either.
EDIT: If you look at the L1T4 incident it's not exactly the same because the gap between the two corners of the chicane is much greater but this is the line HAM would have to take to mirror the accident. But he didn't, he did the sensible thing.
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Oh also forgot to add, those sausage kerbs on apexes really need to go. Go back to grass or just flat tarmac and properly penalise people if they cut the corner, not with a death trap. How many more lucky breaks do we need from accidents involving them before we get rid?
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I am firmly of the unprovable belief that after Button and Rosberg, Hamilton has politicked with Mercedes-Benz for an easier, less threatening teammate. Hamilton even had the upper hand on Button and Rosberg most of the time they were his teammate anyway but still ran him close. Too close.
Like how Barrichello wasn't on Schumacher's level anyway in a fair fight but whether it was written into his contract officially or not, everybody knew what was really going on.
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LH was the bigger man, Max tried to squeeze and didnt leave enough room. End of.
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I went back to this a few times to look at the giant ass tire resting on top of the Merc.
Something else I should mention, I really don't like this trend from FOM of "glamorising" the dangerous side of F1. They keep showing replay after replay after replay of these incidents in recent years, on this occasion showed the slo-mo of HAM with a wheel on his head three whole times.
Sure, I know that if the worst happens they wouldn't do that on any incident where there is injury or worse, but it just feels like they're doing too much of "HEY, LOOK AT THIS AMAZING CRASH, ISN'T IT AMAZING! LOOK HOW CLOSE TO HIS HEAD IT WAS! THIS IS F1" for my liking. Combine that with their desire to see as many standing starts as possible because they know crashes and incidents are far more likely then and I really don't like the way they're going.
Sure, I know that if the worst happens they wouldn't do that on any incident where there is injury or worse, but it just feels like they're doing too much of "HEY, LOOK AT THIS AMAZING CRASH, ISN'T IT AMAZING! LOOK HOW CLOSE TO HIS HEAD IT WAS! THIS IS F1" for my liking. Combine that with their desire to see as many standing starts as possible because they know crashes and incidents are far more likely then and I really don't like the way they're going.
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