2005-06 NBA Season Discussion Thread

[Trussii651]

Miami David Stern's Heat win it. meh

Ah well, I'm glad to see Payton get a ring and Shaq get one without Kobe.
I never would have guessed the Heat to win this year though.

Not looking forward to: The media sucking Wade's dick for the next couple weeks.
Looking forward to: Cuban earning his next fine.

Edit: can't strike? ehh, you get the idea.

 

[Giancarlo]

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

 

[McLaren]

This sucks, man. All the morons at the AAC are booing my team. It just goes to show you the level of class displayed by crappy Dallas.

Haha, I love how they're booing the comissioner most of all. Congrats to Dwyane Wade for the MVP award. At least he got some cheer for that.

You know what Omnis? Screw your team. You say Dallas as crappy level of class? Your team's city is full of stuck-up snobs. Don't even talk about Dallas when your Mayor and City officials pull some BS, and make smart*** comments.

I'm with JCE. Screw these officials, and screw Wade. He is the sneakiest sob when it comes to fouls. Congrats on him for MVP though. He atleast, deserved that for his shooting.

I wished I was born in the 60's so I could watch some real basketball. Dallas was screwed over in Game 5 because the officials favored Miami, and screw Miami for their sportsmenship. Miami first makes us get rid of a Mavs banner, then the Mayor comes out and says, "The only Cuban not allowed in Miami is Mark Cuban."

And who the hell nominated Shaq for MVP? I'll admit it, Wade deserves it for his shots. Shaq hasn't done anything worth mentioning for MVP.

The NBA had it out for Dallas, and I don't give a d*mn what you say. Had we not been screwed over in Game 5, we wouldn't have played our asses off. Wade knew we could make a comeback, so he magically gets 3 fouls in the final minutes.

I've only watched these 6 NBA games this year, and I can already tell it's a bs calling of the refs. Dallas is constantly called on, even on that move where Wayne ran into Stackhouse. And Shaq is over-rated. He just mooched his butt off Miami for another ring.

I'm just going to end by saying Game 3, 5, and 6 were the best ones. Even though Miami's refs screwed us over in Game 5, we still showed we can win even though Wade pulled his crap.

Miami needs to know this. Wade is the reason they're the winners. Had they not had Wade, I doubt they would have won.

 

[Giancarlo]

I'm with JCE. Screw these officials, and screw Wade. He is the sneakiest sob when it comes to fouls. Congrats on him for MVP though. He atleast, deserved that for his shooting.

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The NBA had it out for Dallas, and I don't give a d*mn what you say. Had we not been screwed over in Game 5, we wouldn't have played our asses off. Wade knew we could make a comeback, so he magically gets 3 fouls in the final minutes.

Ok, i'm sick of being patient with you. You're just a moron.

 

[Omnis]

Woah, I'm not comparing Dallas to Miami. We have just as many buttholes.

Yo, they just showed this party on the news, and this drunk hoe was dancing on the table and her jeans were SOAKED in piss. I laughed SO hard.

You guys beef way too hard, though. Dallas had double-digit leads in every game so far, yet they still lost 4 straight. I'd blame the team, dude.

By the way, McLaren, nice sig, douchebag.

 

[Trussii651]

Miami Heat are proof you don't need a good team to win a championship, just a bunch of good players and a good coach.

And there is no doubt the officials, aswell as the league favored the Heat in this series. Some of the calls were just rediculous, especially during the final minutes of the Heat home games. And during almost every half time ABC would have some "heart warming" feature on the Heat. ...ughh.
This series is almost enough to turn me right off of NBA basketball, and I'm not even a Mavs fan.

 

[McLaren]

Ok, i'm sick of being patient with you. You're just a moron.

Oh really? You don't think the refs were unfair?

Wade got a punch in Dirk's face, and the foul was called on Dirk. Face it. Miami was directed as the winners before this started.

And Omnis, you're 1 to talk with your avatar.

 

[Omnis]

Well, if you guys got Miami stuff then we must've gotten all the Mavericks stories.

I watched:

a segment on Dirk's training sessions
a segment on Dirk's career progression
a segment and a featurette on Howard and his bow legs and how the doctors had to break them twice
a featurette on howard's family
a featurette on stackhouse's family
a segment on stackhouse's current life and training sessions.

I think Mark Cuban sets a bad example.

edit: McLaren, my avatar is in jest. I made it when you guys dominated the crap out of us in the first 2 games, because they obviously didn't suck then. My avatar may very well be the key to the Heat's victory, though. You never know.

Get over it, though. Seriously.

 

[Omnis]

Miami Heat are proof you don't need a good team to win a championship, just a bunch of good players and a good coach.

I might as well say, "Dallas are proof that you don't need a bad team to lose a championship, just a bunch of good players and a good coach."

Seriously, I can't even begin to point out the ridiculousness of that statement.

 

[Trussii651]

Well, if you guys got Miami stuff then we must've gotten all the Mavericks stories.

I watched:

a segment on Dirk's training sessions
a segment on Dirk's career progression
a segment and a featurette on Howard and his bow legs and how the doctors had to break them twice
a featurette on howard's family
a featurette on stackhouse's family
a segment on stackhouse's current life and training sessions.

Well to be honest I missed a few halftimes, but it seemed like every time I'd catch one there was some story on the Heat.
The thing I dislike most about the Heat is their stacked roster. I don't mind stacked rosters if the team actually had some chemestry like the Spurs or Pistons. Ehh, the Mavs just seemed like a more deserving team to me.

If I seem a little bitter it may have something to do with my home town losing the Stanely Cup only 24 hours ago, and now this. So yeah, I'm a little sour.🤬

 

[JFM92_GTRacer]

Never been here in a while but anyways...GO EASTERN CONFERENCE!!!

 

[a6m5]

Darn. I was playing ball with the guys tonight, so I missed the whole game...... maybe that was a blessing.

First, I'm sorry to Dallas Mavs, Avery, and the Dallas fans. I do feel that they got the short end of the stick in the very crucial Game 5. But even then, Wade had to make that tought banker, plus, Josh Howard did mess up the last chance the Mavs had. If it is of any consolation, Dallas Mav are my personal pick as the best team this year. I mean they beat the Spurs, which I didn't think was possible. In a very grand manner, too.

And congratulations to Miami Heat. 👍 I hate you Shaq(always have). I hate you GP(you are just sad. you did not win this championship, you loser. you're another Karl Malone). But that Wade! I've liked him since his rookie season, and he sure didn't disappoint his team. He was the clear MVP of the NBA Finals this year, and I hope he gets better and better.

 

[Fonce Diablo]

*walks in, raises the neutral flag of the Charlotte Bobcats before speaking*

Maybe I missed something, but I watched games 5 and 6 and...

I saw Avery Johnson on the sidelines completely losing his mind, making the timeout signal, and then Josh Howard calling said timeout at the wrongest possible time.

That is when Dallas lost the series. If the refs really were biased, if fouls were going uncalled either way, it was that particular moment in time that Johnson let it get to him, and thus, to his team.

And they STILL played their asses off in game 6.

That's why I say the series ended when the Timeout of Doom was called. Imagine the outcome if Dallas had just lost regularly.

 

[McLaren]

Hmm, apparently, Dallas isn't the only one to think the NBA Refs are unfair.

Many complain to Stern, and his only response is to shut it.
Sorry, but the Finals were an example of ****ty calling.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/site/premium/access-registered.intercept
EDIT: Apparently, the article is not available to me anymore.

It's spring, which means planting flowers, playing golf and, if you're an NBA player or coach, complaining about officiating.

There has been quite a bit of that in these playoffs, and it didn't help when the NBA rescinded a technical against Michael Finley from San Antonio's overtime game against Dallas. As their series wound down, the Suns and Mavs were sending dueling complaints to the league office about the other's alleged cheap shots and dirty play.

NBA Commissioner David Stern says he has had about enough. He believes the actions of the players and coaches trickle down to the fans and cast doubt on the game. He has quietly told the players and coaches to button it.

"We've sort of delivered the message to the coaches," Stern said. "[When] a coach loses a game because a call went the wrong way, I'm never going to say you can't let off some steam.

"When we started the season we said, `Let's tell the assistant coaches they don't have a lot to add to the dialogue with the officials,'" Stern said. "Next season's project will be to persuade the players. Since I've been commissioner there have probably been 35,000 calls, and the next call that gets overturned because a player complained will be the first. So it's not a productive enterprise."

But if the NBA really wants to help the officials, it could do something about the block/charge, which remains the call most frequently questioned. So many players are flopping, you wonder if the "skill" is taught before dribbling in Europe.

The league installed the small circle under the basket as a restricted zone where a player cannot draw a change. But the best way to end the bogus practice is to stop calling so many charges. A charge should be called only when a defender plays good defense and moves his feet and still gets run over by the player he is guarding.

Even though zones are allowed now, hardly anyone plays them for more than a few minutes. Sliding over to get in front of a driver is hardly good defense. It's a trick, and it's time the NBA recognized that.

Wade, as I said is just too lucky. 3 times in this series, was he allowed to shoot on Phantom fouls.

I'm not saying the NBA is rigged, but they obviously don't care about bs calls from the NBA refs. I've looked up many forums, and all are saying games between the Lakers, Suns, Dallas, and others in the final had favory.

 

[a6m5]

Maybe I missed something, but I watched games 5 and 6 and...

I saw Avery Johnson on the sidelines completely losing his mind, making the timeout signal, and then Josh Howard calling said timeout at the wrongest possible time.

I'd have "lost my mind" too. Maybe Howard called timeout by mistake. Maybe he was asking the coach, if he should call it(which would've been retarted, anyway). Either way, he signaled for it, ref saw it, and BAM!. Avery was understandbly furious.

Hmm, apparently, Dallas isn't the only one to think the NBA Refs are unfair.

Many complain to Stern, and his only response is to shut it.
Sorry, but the Finals were an example of ****ty calling.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/site/premium/access-registered.intercept
EDIT: Apparently, the article is not available to me anymore.

Wade, as I said is just too lucky. 3 times in this series, was he allowed to shoot on Phantom fouls.

I'm not saying the NBA is rigged, but they obviously don't care about bs calls from the NBA refs. I've looked up many forums, and all are saying games between the Lakers, Suns, Dallas, and others in the final had favory.

There are so many issues with NBA officiating, it's not even funny. How many times do you see some big name players runs into a defender to put shot up. The whole time, defender is putting his hands straight up, it's a defensive foul. Shaq in his heydays used to just move a defender out of positions with his elbows and shoulders. Since when was this OK? He didn't use this "techinique" once or twice in the game, more like every other time!. But of course, one that gets me the most is, when refs call everything on one end, but not at the other end, like we saw in that Game 5 of the Finals for little bit there.

While I feel sorry for Dallas, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't glad that more people are realizing NBA officiating needs to be reviewed.

 

[Fonce Diablo]

I'm under the impression that Howard asked for the timeout verbally.

In which case, what is the ref supposed to do?

"No, your coach doesn't want it yet. DENIED!"

 

[a6m5]

I'm under the impression that Howard asked for the timeout verbally.

In which case, what is the ref supposed to do?

"No, your coach doesn't want it yet. DENIED!"

As the TV announder called it, ref had no choice but to call timeout. He must've in disbelief though. I'd have wanted to smack Howard on the upside of his head.

 

[TwinTurboJay]

I love the Heat, but I could't believe Gary Paton last night. The bastard is in a championship game, and can't keep his VERY BIG mouth shut and caused a very Critical turn-over due to his bitching to the ref WHILE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN OFFENSIVE PLAY YOU MORON. Well, after years of bitching and bitching...and bitching, he got a ring. Congrats Gary, on being a big non-factor in the Heat's Win.

 

[Pupik]

I love the Heat, but I could't believe Gary Paton last night. The bastard is in a championship game, and can't keep his VERY BIG mouth shut and caused a very Critical turn-over due to his bitching to the ref WHILE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN OFFENSIVE PLAY YOU MORON. Well, after years of bitching and bitching...and bitching, he got a ring. Congrats Gary, on being a big non-factor in the Heat's Win.

He's good, as he had a few key plays in Game 5, but he was pretty much non-existent in Game 6, except for that very dumb-ass move that might have thrown the game, and possibly the title.

 

[Div is back]

You know, the TV commentators made a great point, when Miami was down 2-0 they did not critize the officials, they did not say Dirk is a wussy, they talked about themselves.

The commentators said that Dallas did all the opposite and that it was time to shut the hell up and play, which they did not.

Honestly, McLaren, I don't know you very much but from what I've heard you are older than most of us and you still seem to be so immature, I won't even talk about JCE because that is just a lost cause.

Give respect where it's due, D Wade owned your ass, period.

OH BTW, stop arguing on fouls, Michael Jordan's best shot, against Cavs, was argued over for such a long time because everybody thought it was an offensive foul. That's the way it is, pack up your anger and go home, sore looser.

Seriously, we have been so patient with you Dallas fans in this thread, you kept on bashing and bashing and crying about everything, only Omnis bashed you, well we know why but anyway, you guys are way older than him and you still respond, I agree with Giancarlo, I can't discuss with morons.

 

[Giancarlo]

The Mavericks wilted under the pressure. The Heat's spectacular Zone defense, anchored by Shaq and especially Zo (5 blocks), turned the Mavericks into a jump shooting team who was reluctant to stop the red-hot Wade. Who's one-dimensional now?

The Heat had for more hunger to win this title, and far more veterans with far more experience (apart from Gary Payton on that one play, lol) that knew what to do when the pressure was on.

Avery Johnson was extremely outcoached on every level by Pat Riley, when it came to substitutions, motivation, set plays and character.

I cannot believe the Mavs fans turned out to be worse than most Pistons fans. At least they took the loss to heart and understood that they lost to a more prepared team. Major props to Rip and Tayshaun for congratulating the Heat players after their win, and for helping make the East finally able to win the championship again.

Zo is my Finals MVP, and a freaking warrior time and time again when the pressure was on.

 

[SS69]

To blame Dallas' loss on officiating is just ignorant. Yea of course there were bad calls against the Mavericks, but there are bad calls against every team. It's always been like that. The fact is, if Dallas played as well as they should, it wouldnt matter how many calls went against them. Heat was just the better team. They really surprised me. Wade was just unstoppable, i didnt realize he was that good. Dallas lost, they just need to suck it up and play better next season. I'm really disappointed in the way Dallas has acted in the last 4 games. We were starting to be known as the "humble team". Of course that was only when we were winning.

 

[Giancarlo]

To blame Dallas' loss on officiating is just ignorant. Yea of course there were bad calls against the Mavericks, but there are bad calls against every team. It's always been like that.

Thank you for showing such class. I will show you just the same if it's Mavs-Heat again next year and the Heat lose.

Maybe.

 

[McLaren]

You know, the TV commentators made a great point, when Miami was down 2-0 they did not critize the officials, they did not say Dirk is a wussy, they talked about themselves.

The commentators said that Dallas did all the opposite and that it was time to shut the hell up and play, which they did not.

Honestly, McLaren, I don't know you very much but from what I've heard you are older than most of us and you still seem to be so immature, I won't even talk about JCE because that is just a lost cause.

Give respect where it's due, D Wade owned your ass, period.

OH BTW, stop arguing on fouls, Michael Jordan's best shot, against Cavs, was argued over for such a long time because everybody thought it was an offensive foul. That's the way it is, pack up your anger and go home, sore looser.

Seriously, we have been so patient with you Dallas fans in this thread, you kept on bashing and bashing and crying about everything, only Omnis bashed you, well we know why but anyway, you guys are way older than him and you still respond, I agree with Giancarlo, I can't discuss with morons.

I did give Wade respect. Hell, I even said he DESERVED it.
Helps to read, you know.

I really have no problem with Miami, its the fact the referees played favorites. They let Shaq off and write his excuse as being big. They let Wade get away with a smack in the face, and the last foul was bunch of Wade-arse kissing.

It's not this game though. The Lakers games, the Suns games, all teams, if you read the article, report to Stern that the refs aren't making fair calls. Stern doesn't care though, and it may be a coincidence, but he probably didn't give 2 flips about Dallas' complaints because we all know he hates Cuban, and better way to get back at him than to not do anything about the refs.

I already said Congratulations to Heat. Some deserved it, some like Shaq don't. He's lost any fame and respect I had for him. No, Dirk didn't have the right to cause a tantram, but he paid the price. And why the hell does every Miami fan seem to hate on Dirk? Dirk's rarely said that much, and Avery is still a good coach.

Even though he lost, he still is very proud of his team. He said somethings weren't in their favor, but the team overcame it and played tough.

 

[TwinTurboJay]

hate for the dirkmeister is normal from an opposing team. when he is on, he is dangerous and hard to stop. He is kinda ugly, and talks with a german accent. not a popular accent in the NBA.

 

[McLaren]

To blame Dallas' loss on officiating is just ignorant. Yea of course there were bad calls against the Mavericks, but there are bad calls against every team. It's always been like that. The fact is, if Dallas played as well as they should, it wouldnt matter how many calls went against them. Heat was just the better team. They really surprised me. Wade was just unstoppable, i didnt realize he was that good. Dallas lost, they just need to suck it up and play better next season. I'm really disappointed in the way Dallas has acted in the last 4 games. We were starting to be known as the "humble team". Of course that was only when we were winning.

The reason people are pissed because of the season. The Heat was nowhere near as good as Dallas during the season. Many of the teams the Heat played against also had better seasons. The refs did make bad calls, and if anyone read the article, the teamS and ownerS complained to Stern about it, but Stern doesn't give 2 craps.

 

[Giancarlo]

I really have no problem with Miami, its the fact the referees played favorites. They let Shaq off and write his excuse as being big. They let Wade get away with a smack in the face, and the last foul was bunch of Wade-arse kissing.

It's not this game though. The Lakers games, the Suns games, all teams, if you read the article, report to Stern that the refs aren't making fair calls. Stern doesn't care though, and it may be a coincidence, but he probably didn't give 2 flips about Dallas' complaints because we all know he hates Cuban, and better way to get back at him than to not do anything about the refs.

Yeah! The referees have always had it out for the Mavs, especially in the post-season!

Oh wait, no. You're just making excuses instead of seeing that the refs are bad towards everybody and that your team lost because they fell apart.

Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eY8qGHU52E

 

[McLaren]

Yeah! The referees have always had it out for the Mavs, especially in the post-season!

Oh wait, no. You're just making excuses instead of seeing that the refs are bad towards everybody and that your team lost because they fell apart.

Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eY8qGHU52E

Oh am I? Then how come EVERY OTHER team, ones that didn't even play Dallas or Miami called unfairness due to the refs?

Face it, the refs play favorites, even for Dallas against Nash's team. I can easily admit, that had the NBA been fair, the Suns would have had this championship. The standings don't lie. Miami was easily beat by other teams.

The NBA isn't rigged, it just doesn't care. It's all about the money, and they'll let the refs do anything to drag more money out of the Finals. More games=more money.

Stern's an a-hole, and already showed he'll agree with the refs, despite what team.

Oh, and read the comments. They were right. The video failed to show every foul, and that Dallas was a better team, despite the refs.

 

[SS69]

Look im a Dallas fan, and I agree with some of the comments on the bad officiating, but how do you explain Dallas only shooting 30%? I can't count how many times they missed shot after shot after shot that should have been an easy sink. Dirk was off. Like I said, if dallas played the way they played the rest of the post-season, all the bad calls in the world wouldnt have stopped them.

 

[McLaren]

Look im a Dallas fan, and I agree with some of the comments on the bad officiating, but how do you explain Dallas only shooting 30%?

Yes, that's why I was disappointed and even congratulated Miami after Game 4. For some reason, we fell apart. However, we got screwed over a couple times that also played a role.

How about Miami's clock? We had at least 4 seconds to make a play instead of 1. NBA said they'd look into it. What difference would that do?

Put it this way. If you think the Heat won this Championship all on their own without any "help", I suggest you bring your head of your ass now, cause right now, I see it as Wade that won the championship.