2005-06 NBA Season Discussion Thread

[a6m5]

Ah well, I do hope that you're right. Clearly he can be a solid contributer to a team if he plays well, but we'll have to see.

Sounds like Derek Anderson. S-L-A-C-K-E-R-!

Anyone else hear about Allan Houston's retirement? It's kind of a shame, I thought he could still be a solid player. He was definitely great in his day though, and yet another great shooter, especially in the clutch.

You've got to be joking. It's definitely not April 1st. Was he in a car wreck? You've got to be kidding.

 

[Saleen Man]

You've got to be joking. It's definitely not April 1st. Was he in a car wreck? You've got to be kidding.

Definitely not joking. And it appears that Vlade Divac has retired as well.

 

[a6m5]

Definitely not joking. And it appears that Vlade Divac has retired as well.

Yeah, I checked. I guess it was his knee? I don't know the details, but sounds fishy..... They dumped Jerome Williams with the "Allan Houston Exception", now Houston retires (really)prematurely to give the Knicks even more cash relief. Oh, well. Never liked Allan Houston or the Knicks. 👎

 

[Giancarlo]

Come on, season....start!

 

[rollazn]

No kidding. Can't wait for the NBA season to start. Therefore I can actually begin to watch the game instead of just looking at box scores.

 

[Giancarlo]

You can listen to every game on ESPN.com, you know.

 

[rollazn]

You can listen to every game on ESPN.com, you know.

Only the preseason games - or all the regular season as well?

Doesn't matter anyways - Im not much into listening to a game. Much rather see it with my own eyes.

There is acutally a site that release games right after they play them on the internet. Too bad I forgot the site's name.

 

[Giancarlo]

Yeah, preseason games as well. And listening to it is better than not experiencing the game at all.

 

[a6m5]

I used to love listening to the games on the radio, but these days, only on TV or in person. NBA's bs refereeing and crappy "high horse" attitude of players are steadly getting to me, I think. I am going to the Blazers/Kings Preseason game this Saturday, but it's a nosebleed and comes only with the parking pass. Usually, they(my work) give me a low level seats with dinner pass. Oh, well. At least I get to see the new Blazers roster.

 

[Giancarlo]

My friends and i were thinking of pooling our cash and getting some Heat tickets. Gonna be a great season this year..

 

[a6m5]

My friends and i were thinking of pooling our cash and getting some Heat tickets. Gonna be a great season this year..

With a team like the Heat, you better order the tickets as soon as they go on sale. Tickets to good games go fast(can you say Kobe vs. Shaq? ).

 

[Saleen Man]

Do you have a date for that Kobe/Shaq game? I've got to make sure to watch another one of those "affairs".

On a totally different topic, what are your guys' takes on the new dress code? Or more specifically, how some players are calling it racist? As far as I know, the part that players don't like is the fact that they're no longer allowed to have chains/pendants/medallions showing over top of their clothing. Is there more to it? I don't see how that's racist at all. It's totally absurd anyway that people can say it's racist.

 

[a6m5]

On a totally different topic, what are your guys' takes on the new dress code? Or more specifically, how some players are calling it racist? As far as I know, the part that players don't like is the fact that they're no longer allowed to have chains/pendants/medallions showing over top of their clothing. Is there more to it? I don't see how that's racist at all. It's totally absurd anyway that people can say it's racist.

I really liked Stephen Jackson(former Champ w/the Spurs) until today, when I read on CNN about how he called the new rule "racist". I also have a name for any players who claims it was an racist move, "IDIOT". 👎 Personally, I always thought NBA players looked awesome in suits, and they should wear suits, off-court. To be honest, I don't know if NBA should have enforced it as a rule, but bottom line; the league has the right to do this.

I really liked the reasons these players listed for thinking the rule didn't make sense. I think the Paul Pierce one's were the best. He talked about how people wearing ties could still be a ruthless criminal, and how people in baggy jeans could have Ph.D. I knew he was stupid when he talked sh#t about Jordan, but looks like he was stupider than I thought. I mean how many thugs wear ties and how many people with Ph. D. wear baggy jeans?

 

[Saleen Man]

I really liked Stephen Jackson(former Champ w/the Spurs) until today, when I read on CNN about how he called the new rule "racist". I also have a name for any players who claims it was an racist move, "IDIOT". 👎 Personally, I always thought NBA players looked awesome in suits, and they should wear suits, off-court. To be honest, I don't know if NBA should have enforced it as a rule, but bottom line; the league has the right to do this.

So the players have to wear suits to games? I think it makes the players much more professional, and like you said, they look better. I really don't see the problem with this. I mean, if all NBA players are seen on TV wearing suits, will high school basketball players around the world start wearing suits when they go out? It's pretty clear that it's going deeper than just the game of basketball, but reaching into the basketball sub-culture, which rap music is a big part of. Who knows though.

I really liked the reasons these players listed for thinking the rule didn't make sense. I think the Paul Pierce one's were the best. He talked about how people wearing ties could still be a ruthless criminal, and how people in baggy jeans could have Ph.D. I knew he was stupid when he talked sh#t about Jordan, but looks like he was stupider than I thought. I mean how many thugs wear ties and how many people with Ph. D. wear baggy jeans?

Wait a tick - what did Paul Pierce say about MJ? And when did this happen? How could I not remember this? Enlighten me, please.

 

[a6m5]

So the players have to wear suits to games? I think it makes the players much more professional, and like you said, they look better. I really don't see the problem with this. I mean, if all NBA players are seen on TV wearing suits, will high school basketball players around the world start wearing suits when they go out? It's pretty clear that it's going deeper than just the game of basketball, but reaching into the basketball sub-culture, which rap music is a big part of. Who knows though.

I do understand where these players are coming from. If I'm wearing whatever I want at work, I wouldn't like it if the boss comes to me and tells me that I have to abide by the new dress code. What's shockingly stupid of Pierce and Stephen Jackson is that, they call that a racist move. So you can't wear your gold chains with cargo shorts and flip-flops while you're at work. That makes your employer a racist? GIVE ME A BREAK.

Wait a tick - what did Paul Pierce say about MJ? And when did this happen? How could I not remember this? Enlighten me, please.

What I heard from a friend(years ago) was that Pierce called MJ a old lady, and can no longer keep up with him. I googled and found this instead:

Dan Patrick: Do you know Stockton is old enough to be your dad?
Paul Pierce: John Stockton?
DP: Yes.
PP: How old is he? Oh, he's 40 now.
DP: Isn't that amazing?
PP: Yes, Karl Malone is 40 too, right?
DP: No, Malone's a year younger. And Michael Jordan is turning 40 in February.
PP: Hey, I'm glad I get to play against him now, you know?
DP: Is it a little strange when you play against him now but you know what he used to be?
PP: Yes.
DP: He's a different player now. Is it like when Larry Holmes was beating up Muhammad Ali, that you don't want to? I mean, Jordan is a guy you probably looked at as an idol.
PP: Yes.
DP: So do you still want to dunk on him?
PP: Oh yes, definitely ... but you still can't erase that I think he's the greatest player of all time.
DP: But you would dunk on an old man.
PP: Oh, yes. Without a doubt. Hey, he wanted to come back to the game, right?
DP: Yes, all right.
PP: That's just like ... say you've got nine guys on the court and one woman and you take it easy on her. I mean, if she wants to be out there, you've got to give her the same treatment.
DP: So you would have no problem lighting Jordan up for 40.
PP: No, no problem. Hey man, this is our time to give back to him what he did to us five, six, seven years ago.

That friend was the biggest MJ freak, so he probably overreacted to what Pierce had said. Also, MJ wasn't that great in his years with the Wizards(when Pierce made his comments), but Pierce wasn't that much better IMO. My apology to Paul Pierce for thinking that he was a total loser all this time, but at least he is starting to live up to the rep.

 

[Giancarlo]

Do you have a date for that Kobe/Shaq game? I've got to make sure to watch another one of those "affairs".

It's gonna be on Christmas again just like last year, at 3 o'clock EST on ABC.

 

[a6m5]

Wow. Now, this trade is kind of puzzling. Milwaukee Bucks, with their first overall pick gets Andrew Bogut. Apprarently, he didn't play that well, and he is a backup center, not a starter. Today, Milwaukee trades Desmond Mason and a unprotected first round pick for Jamaal Magloire.... another center. This article says Jamaal will be starting and they are probably right. Now Bogut is a third string player?

 

[Saleen Man]

Wow. Now, this trade is kind of puzzling. Milwaukee Bucks, with their first overall pick gets Andrew Bogut. Apprarently, he didn't play that well, and he is a backup center, not a starter. Today, Milwaukee trades Desmond Mason and a unprotected first round pick for Jamaal Magloire.... another center. This article says Jamaal will be starting and they are probably right. Now Bogut is a third string player?

Indeed, that is a very odd trade. Desmond Mason had sort of a breakout year last season, and Jamaal Magloire is a bit overrated in my opinion. If you get a player like Bogut in the draft, I feel that you have to start him no matter well he does in training camp/pre-season. Develop him faster, get him the experience faster, he becomes a better player faster. I hope this doesn't become another Jermaine O'neal situation.

 

[Saleen Man]

Whoa, the season opener is this Tuesday?! I had no idea the regular season was that close. Right on. Well, I guess that means it's time for predictions right? OK well not predictions, but things I'm hoping for. I want the 76ers to do good. Really. I've become more of an Iverson fan the last couple of years, I think he's one of the most fun players to watch, so I hope Philadelphia plays well. And just for you a6m5, I really hope the Nets have a strong season. If they can keep Kidd/Carter/Jefferson healthy all season, they could be a very dangerous team. Just imagine the fast break possibilities with Kidd in the middle and those 2 high flyers on the wings. As for the Raptors, I hope they finish last in the league, so they can waste another high draft pick on some unknown European who ends up playing 14 strong years....in the NBDL.

 

[a6m5]

I'm sure the Nets will do just fine. Sixers were kind of exciting last year with the addition of Chris Webber. With the Sixers hiring Mo Cheeks as the new headcoach, I'd be pulling for them as well....... right after the Indiana Pacers in the East. In the West, it's still the Blazers and the Spurs for me. Blazers will be competing to get out of lottery this season, but it's not looking too promising right now. Spurs added Van Exel and Michael Finley doing the off-season. Two veterans, who would be willing to make sacrifices in exchage for Championship rings. 👍

 

[JFM92_GTRacer]

YEAH!! NBA season opener is starting!! TNT.
Is it alright if i join in this discussion thread?

 

[a6m5]

YEAH!! NBA season opener is starting!! TNT.
Is it alright if i join in this discussion thread?

PLEASE COME IN! I've been pretty much begging people to visit this thread. I'm thinking about changing the thread title to "Saleen Man & a6m5's NBA Discussion Thread with Special Guest Giancarlo".

My coworker did a favor for me today by asking for tomorrow off. My team, Blazers are on TV, eastern time tomorrow. I get off work at 5:30 PM, but the game starts at 5 PM. With me covering his shift, I get off at 4:30! Yessssssss! Portland at Minnesota...... Blazers will get killed, but at least I get to see Telfair and the gang on TV.

JFM92, who's your favorite team?

I think I know everybody else's favorite team:
Saleen Man: Raptors, Nets and Sixers.
Giancarlo: Heat
rollazn: Rockets
JohnBM01: Rockets?
McLaren's Angel: Lakers
F1King: Lakers

That's all I can remember off top of my head. Other than the Blazers, I like the Spurs and the Pacers.

 

[Giancarlo]

...with Special Guest Giancarlo...

Giancarlo: Heat

Hey cut me some slack, i haven't had power for the last 9 and a half days...

I get it back the day before Miami begins the season. Wow.

And yeah, my favorite team are the Heat. Followed by the Spurs.

 

[a6m5]

Hey cut me some slack, i haven't had power for the last 9 and a half days...

I get it back the day before Miami begins the season. Wow.

And yeah, my favorite team are the Heat. Followed by the Spurs.

You were out of power too? Pupik was talking about his power outtage in his thread at Giles' forum. I don't know if he's gotten his power back yet.

I didn't know that you liked the Spurs, too. Cool. 👍 Sounds like you are going to have some dilemma, comes this season's playoffs.

 

[Saleen Man]

Saleen Man: Raptors, Nets and Sixers.

I hate the Raptors. OK you're right, they are on that list but I wish they would stop sucking so much. We want VC back! Not that I'm complaining that he's in New Jersey with my boy J-Kidd.

 

[JFM92_GTRacer]

PLEASE COME IN! I've been pretty much begging people to visit this thread. I'm thinking about changing the thread title to "Saleen Man & a6m5's NBA Discussion Thread with Special Guest Giancarlo".

My coworker did a favor for me today by asking for tomorrow off. My team, Blazers are on TV, eastern time tomorrow. I get off work at 5:30 PM, but the game starts at 5 PM. With me covering his shift, I get off at 4:30! Yessssssss! Portland at Minnesota...... Blazers will get killed, but at least I get to see Telfair and the gang on TV.

JFM92, who's your favorite team?

I think I know everybody else's favorite team:
Saleen Man: Raptors, Nets and Sixers.
Giancarlo: Heat
rollazn: Rockets
JohnBM01: Rockets?
McLaren's Angel: Lakers
F1King: Lakers

That's all I can remember off top of my head. Other than the Blazers, I like the Spurs and the Pacers.

awesome.
JFM: ILLadel 76ers, and the soon to be champs Golden State Warriors. <Bay Area of course.

I believe the Sixers game is tomorrow, right?

 

[a6m5]

Boy. Last time I liked the Warriors were back when they had RUN TMC(Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, Mullin). I loved Tim Hardaway.

Looks like me and Saleen is on the same boat, supporting the sucky home team, while rooting for the teams we wish we had(Spurs & Nets).

Since you guys like the Sixers(I do, too), you might enjoy this piece I found on the Blazers site, regarding A.I. and Mo Cheeks:

"It’s kind of different being that at practice (a few years ago), the coach would ask all the coaches did they have anything to say, and all the coaches would say something," Iverson said. "Then they’d say, ‘Mo?’ and all of us would start laughing because we knew he wouldn’t say anything. And now, just him being so vocal and seeing him get on a guy for doing something wrong, to me it’s funny. But at the same time, you know that he has to do what he has to do as far as his job. He’s a players’ coach, but at times a coach has to get on people. When he gets on me, I know he really means it because it’s not in his character. That’s the only different part."

Gosh, I hope Cheeks and the Sixers do well.

Edit:
I found this on CBS - Sportsline

Spurs 102 - Nuggets 91

Yesssssssssss!

 

[Giancarlo]

You were out of power too? Pupik was talking about his power outtage in his thread at Giles' forum. I don't know if he's gotten his power back yet.

I didn't know that you liked the Spurs, too. Cool. 👍 Sounds like you are going to have some dilemma, comes this season's playoffs.

Yeah man, it was so bad down here that we had to call on the help of around 2,000 out of state workers to get all the power lines going again...

Yeah, i've liked them since starting a Spurs dynasty in Live 06.

Oh, and man do i love this picture...

 

[a6m5]

I love Wade, but I love the reactions of Lue and Childress even more.

Blazers fell to the T-Wolves tonight, 90 - 86. Blazers actually had several chances to take over the game, even couple of chance to win the game! By the way they played during the preseason, I thought for sure Blazers will lose by around 20 points. Looks like McMillan really did use the preseason for just warming up. 👍 I had never been so proud about a Blazer loss. At times, they actually made the veteran Wolves look like bunch of rookies, especially when D. Miles had back-to-back steals, then the Wolves threw away a pass for three consecutive turnovers. Darius finished with 32pts/11rbs/5ast. He could amaze, when he's motivated(starting to remind me of Rashweed).

 

[Giancarlo]

Hey, if you guys didn't know, DirecTV's NBA League Pass is free for the first week of the NBA season!