but its a "lamborghini" and will sound better,go better,feel better to drive,more sense of an "occasion" when driving it and dare i say,more reliable,since this is nissan's first attempt at making a car of this standard.
Probably true.
Patently false, assuming you mean acceleration.
Probably false.
Probably true.
Could go either way.
I'd say that number is low. I'm guessing it is closer to 9/10.
theres already 2 dealers in scotland selling them for around £40k,still expect to see a couple show up at knockhill in the next year.
Only the Superleggera will be taking on the GT-R. A 2003 Gallardo, though, certainly won't, esp. not when its running now out-dated technology with a 500Hp engine. The 2008 models though, are much better, but probably not enough to really hurt the GT-R, even with 520 horses.
but at the end of the day you arent going to buy a car you dont like.Rough est for the GTR in the uk is £55-65k so say you had £60k to spend on a car.
but i was talking about the uk market
and the gallardo isnt that bad around a race track and hopefully in the next year i can say how well the GTR can go round knockhill(although that being said knockhill doesnt favour heavy cars although lambos seem to go round fast enough.)
plenty of people use nobles daily
just because you dont see them being daily driven where you live doesnt mean they arent,ultima GTR is abit more questionable and they arent expensive considering how much the GTR is.Building a fast car is one thing but building a desirable car that has to sell considering the rivals the GTR has in the UK is a whole other ball game.It has a very hard job in front of it.
I don't know the prices of the GT-R in the UK market. I don't even know if they've been released.but i was talking about the uk market
True, the Gallardo isn't bad, but it took it a few years until the extra 20 horses were added to really start being a competitive car.
That's true, however, you'll see the GT-R will still stand a better chance of being chosen than the Lamborghini's or Ferrari's.
Nobles in the UK are sold with their engines. In the US, they were sold as kit cars so the engine had to be purchased at a different time making the car worth around $90,000. However, 3G (the importer) created Rossion, and will continue to sell the "M400" here under the Rossion Q1. That way, Americans can still get one without going through all the importing.
They havent been released yet wont be till the Geneva Motorshow but figures of between £55k-65k have been said so thats why i was using £60k as the in the middle figure.
but how many of the people that guy GTR's will track it? maybe 15-20%?
nobles come with 3.0litre twin turbo V6's and do have a warranty,Ultimas you can choose what engine you want but there are factory versions (500/550/640/720/820) and nobles are surprisingly rather comfortible.
not much of a market though if you add up the numbers
Why are you changing the discussion? I'm not talking about who will or won't track the car. I'm talking about the people who will know what this car is about compared to the random folks who would only buy a Ferrari over it because it's a Ferrari.
you can import a GTR to the uk and get all the tests done on it for under £40k so you cant use that as an excuse
you were talking about people who are centered around track racing that would buy it aswell.
that was in reference to how many nissan are expecting to sell per year which is alot considering how many sales there was of UK spec skyline gtr's and the honda nsx.
And if they were confident in selling more they would have brought over more wouldnt they? so why didnt they? (genuine question)
Never said they have had problem selling sportscars
i was refering to to what they would class as a "supercar".i think i can safely say nissan doesnt have much experience in selling this kind of car after all this car has almost twice the power of a 350z,costs twice as much,goes twice as fast,does nearly 200mph.how many nissans have they tried to sell in the passed that does all those things?So why on the R32.R33,R34 GTR's did they basicly take off the nissan badges and replace them with GTR ones 💡
ive not said that i dislike this car,it might not have many rivals in japan or in america compared with cost,but in the UK where it costs almost twice as much it does have a huge job in front of it and im simply trying to highlight that it isnt going to have a very easy life in the uk compared to other cars you can get for the same price with similer levels of performance and usability anyone that says it doesnt is lieing.
Because Nissan dropped the ball on the R34, they didn't start importing until late in the cars life. The 200 odd they brought in sold very well, but this was also the time that Nissan as a company globally was in deep trouble, the R34 UK imports were stopped to focus on the mass market and try and make some money. They then got bought by Renault and a lot of stuff was put on hold at Nissan (I was working for Renault at this time), the company (in the UK at least) basically stood still for about 2 years.
Some of the end of life R34 specials were a good halfway point between these two points on the map and they certainly sold well enough.Never said they have had problem selling sportscars
You seem to be mistaking what owners did as opposed to the factory, R32/R33/R34's carried the Nissan badge on the boot, certainly every UK R34 was badged on the rear as a Nissan. My bad just realised that not all R32's were badged as Nissan on the rear.
Do you honestly think that Nissan as a global company has not/is not looking at competitively pricing the GT-R in each and every one of its market places. Price for bhp it will most certainly have rivals in each market place and if Nissan are doing the job right is will be priced accordingly.
yes i have seen a fair amount of skylines at knockhill and indeed at castle combe (great track) but my point still has value,nissan expect to sell 2000 per year in the uk,you dont see 26,000 r32/33/34 GTR's in the uk do you? (taking the number of 2000 per year from the years the cars were in production)
Audi own Lamborghini and bugatti,expertise from lamborghini were heavily used in the development of the R8.
i never said i dont take nissan seriously i am simply pointing out they seem to be making it out to be easier than it will be.
yes it had A nissan badge on the rear but it was mainly covered in GT or GTR badges.Why not keep the nissan badge on the front if nissan were proud of the car?
If what I posted is speculation which it is then so have you. No one here knows how much the GTR will cost in the UK or how much the RS6 will cost. We have only rough ideas based on what we have read in the media or on forums.
And, just because the guy who had the car built used to work for Laborghini, Pagani still was a new company with no history, no reputation and yet managed to become a huge success. And no, Pagani was getting a lot of converage before they started using the 7.3, but even that arrived pretty early on.
why cant i question koenigsegg's reliable
if i buy a car i dont want it to break down every 5 yards and it isnt exactly regarded as "one of the best" they havent even sold what 50-100 cars?and only recently started selling them in the us.if it came down to people and you asked them would you want a koenigsegg no doubt a fair amount would say yes but if you asked them if they would buy it with thier own money how many do you think would still say yes? again i didnt say this car will not or cant succeed i said that nissan would have a very hard job to achieve what they want to and again the company isnt totally financial stable.
But they werent a huge success before the 7.3 came out and even now they arent exactly selling a huge amount are they.
why cant i question koenigsegg's reliable
