Z06 lapped the ring faster in independant testing and is one of the fastest cars as tested by sportauto around hockheim.
The GTR however did nothing too special around the 'ring even though it did alot of final testing and setting up there.
Yup. And the 7:42 time of the Porsche GT3 is just pssht. (Don't quote the 7:39 time... that's a manufacturer claim, and manufacturers always lie, especially if they're Nissan, right? Right?)...
So, it doesn't matter that Porsche also does a lot of ring testing? I guess we should throw out all their laps, now, should we?
And note: Horst vo Saurma's lap in the GT-R was in a pre-production car on a semi-wet, possibly cold track. AutoSport
has not performed their Supertest of the GT-R as of yet.
And, oh, yes... the GT2 is probably faster. It should be... it's lighter and it makes more power. (seeing as it's basically a Turbo with the overboost function on all the time and is powering two less drive wheels)
Oh, buy you say the GT-R is under-rated? 🤬.
The "482" at the wheels tested in Japan (or wherever the hell it was done) was done on a Dynapack Dyno. While there's repeatability and accuracy in the Dyno itself, a Dynapack is a fairly fiddly instrument. In other words, the operator has to correctly enter gearing, final drive and tire information, as well as manually entering correction factors... otherwise, it skews the results. My car makes fifteen to twenty more horse on the Dynapack... no big deal, I guess... until you consider that that's 15% of the car's total output. On a Dynapack, my car put out 143 whp... which is a little too close to the estimated 145-150 Bhp it was making at the time. And that's without the "bhp" correction factor, which put it over 160 bhp. Subsequent dynos elsewhere suggested this was highly optimistic. The dyno-curve on the 'Pack is pretty accurate and much more detailed than you can find at some others, but you can't compare it to any other dyno when rating power figures... especially considering that removing the drive wheels frees up a few hp.
Now consider the GT-R has huge-ass wheels... and power going to four of them... unless you compare a GT-R Dynapack result to a 911 Turbo
on the exact same Dynapack, the results are basically meaningless.
So test them on the same dyno? Thought you'd never ask.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/supercars/nissan-gt-r-and-porsche-911-turbo-dyno-results/
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/MediaNav/firstNav=Gallery/videoId=20224537/articleId=125172
Edmunds showed basically what you'd expect... the GT-R makes 40+ more power on the Dynapack versus the Mustang Dyno... and NEARLY EXACTLY THE SAME POWER AS THE 911 TURBO.
Which means... obviously... that it's quite a feat for this car to be this quick with this much weight.
If your anti-GTR rants are all you're ever going to post, without solid facts to back it up... this thread ought to be closed. Seriously. Because just about every datum you use to back your claims is either flawed or incorrectly quoted... and once it's shown that your sources disagree with you, you just change the subject and ignore them.
Even though this post of mine is verging on personal ass-shattery, I'll risk earning a mod's ire just to say this... Shut up. Seriously. Shut. up.
Normally they will get the times you said.
