jdw
Although we're basically talking about the same thing, I just be clear on the point I was trying to make.
If you take 2 cars and test them against the same two lineups.
Car A vs. Lineup A = 100p and vs. Lineup B = 150p
If Car B vs. Lineup A = 20p, Car B vs. Lineup B will be 70p.
Point is, your car doesn't figure into the average. Only the cars you're facing figure into the average.
Yes, your car and lineup analogy is consistent with my charting.
Agreed, it is only the 5 opponent cars. I have incorporated this into better testing. I am now using the first races of some for comparisons.
jdw
Well, yes and no. If you increase the power of a car, the range of the tire changes increase as well. At least the power has an effect on the tires.
Really? Interesting. Have you noted any trends in how it scales and whether it simply scales with power or if it scales with PWR?
One example I have near me (not going to sort through a 2 inch stack) is using a used Clio Renault Sport V6 24V. With the unchanged 228 PS, I have it at a value of 553 as bought, S2 tires. N1 to R5 tires yields 481 to 640. A range of 159. If you change oil and go max power to 416 PS, N1 to R5 tires now give 690 to 884 points. A range of 194. I havent compared very many cars yet, and dont plan to focus on that until I finish the basic car specs.
By PWR, I assume you mean power to weight ratio
well, they are inversely proportional to each other, ratio to power that is
I have an untested gut theory that the power and weight are treated separately in that I belive they have different 'k' values assigned in the equations. I don't think the simple power to weight ratio is used, but again, an untested theory.
jdw
I know better than mistaking the 2002 for the 2005. There seems to be a glitch with the prize 2005 Ford GT.
Not accusing. It happens. Do you note a difference between the store bought and striped 2005 GT?
I know, I make my share of mistakes and I was being a smartass. I generally find my mistakes before someone else does.....
Well, the store bought one is the stripped one, the prize the solid. I tested it after reading someone couldnt race the prize GT after winning it with one, on the same race. Remembering I had a discrepancy for the car that I thought I already answered, I checked into it farther. Check it out for yourself. You can take the 2005 Ford GT you buy from the dealer into the Premium Sports Lounge, you win the solid version of the 2005 Ford GT. Except for the stripe, they appear identical and have the same specs. However, you cannot take the won 2005 Ford GT into the same race, and if you check spec points on a race lineup, they vary by 17 points
same car same stats
just stripe or no stripe!
jdw
On a similar note, OIL is the hardest damn thing to keep track of. I never get an oil change on a new car so it helps me keep track a bit. New cars never start out with max HP. But I've gotten oil changes on cars that started new but then got worn which throws things off because it puts you to max HP.
agreed. I have a gamefile with loads of credits. I have the cars Im testing in their unaltered state. No upgrades parts, no oil, no settings changes. When I win new cars, I trade them to this card for testing. I test the cars for my values, then if I dont already have data for upgrades available and/or max power and min weight, I complete that too. Once I collect the data for the car, I sell it. Its my way of keeping my data pure.
jdw
OK, I decided to apply some of my spec point work to the PD race. I first took a convienent car to use, the one that specs out at an even 500 to value the first 15 lineups.
Another thing to keep in mind, which, maybe you've seen already.
The car you choose affects which lineups you face. From console reset, the first lineup is ALWAYS the same. Similar cars often have the same set of lineups, at least for a while. But it is very common for lineups to fork based on your car. Make sense?
Yes, this makes sense, but I have not noted it. This game is very complex, isnt it!
jdw
So, does this mean you've observed that the points you get from the lineup are an average of their "base" value which is then subtracted from yours?
I suspected that was the case!
Yes
the sum of the 5 cars values divided by 5 is equal to the race values I previously noted +/- 1 point. Of course, the 60 points come in play too. For my 500 point car, if I was offered 180 points, I placed the lineup value at 620. 180 60 (equal value no.) = 120. my 500 + 120 difference = 620. Now, car in the lineup that deviates for the defauly power, tires, etc, will have different values, then if these are unknown, the values will not be able to be calculated for a lineup.
jdw
I agree the 2nd lineup should be the easiest to get high points on and maybe 200.
Are you getting the same 2nd lineup or are you speculating on the one I provided? I'm fairly positive everyone has the same first lineups, but I'm not sure if anyone gets the same lineups beyond that so let me know.
I had the same 2nd lineup you previously posted, with the S2000 and S3(?)
. Asking me to remember? Dont have that in front of me at the moment, did you d/l my file? Its there
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jdw
I attached an Excel file changing the extension to txt and once downloaded, needs to be changed back to xls.
Thanks, I'll take a look at it when I get a chance.
I was wrong. 
