200pt A-spec races

[RenesisEvo]

Clio - this CAN work, best bet so far but need to turn on TCS for a 5 pit schedule or find easier lineup

Wheres the problem in putting the TCS on a little bit? Dont tell me you consider it a crime to use that! (ASM is a crime though) I'd love to know how you drive a Speed 12...

 

[sejtur]

good thread. I never had a 200 a-spec point race, my top is 160, and i won that one.

 

[ANK]

Come on, if you could do World and Euro Classics you can do this!

66.

World classics and Euro classics are only 1 lap round Nurburgring which means no pit stops once you get ahead you can just keep blocking.
1000 miles is 25 laps round Nurburgring block for as long as possible but when you have to pit at least 1 car always gets past then it is impossible to catch it again. The opositions cars pit between lap 6 and 8 so if you pit on lap 6 the cars on 8 lap pit stops have 2 laps in which they gain nearly 1 minute and if you pit on lap 8 the same goes for the cars on 6 lap pit stops.

 

[route_66]

World classics and Euro classics are only 1 lap round Nurburgring which means no pit stops once you get ahead you can just keep blocking.
1000 miles is 25 laps round Nurburgring block for as long as possible but when you have to pit at least 1 car always gets past then it is impossible to catch it again. The opositions cars pit between lap 6 and 8 so if you pit on lap 6 the cars on 8 lap pit stops have 2 laps in which they gain nearly 1 minute and if you pit on lap 8 the same goes for the cars on 6 lap pit stops.

Fair point, but you can get away in the Karmann - I only had trouble with the Alfa, and pitted every 7 laps. The Tyres held together ok.
Have you tried the '62('63?) Skyline? It's expensive but it's a bit better than the Karmann. I'm not sure what other advice I can give - I know it can be done!

66.

 

[SjefGielen]

World classics and Euro classics are only 1 lap round Nurburgring which means no pit stops once you get ahead you can just keep blocking.
1000 miles is 25 laps round Nurburgring block for as long as possible but when you have to pit at least 1 car always gets past then it is impossible to catch it again. The opositions cars pit between lap 6 and 8 so if you pit on lap 6 the cars on 8 lap pit stops have 2 laps in which they gain nearly 1 minute and if you pit on lap 8 the same goes for the cars on 6 lap pit stops.

Seems like you need to sharpen your laptimes then. Then again 1 minute !?!?!?! That's might be a little to much to get off! But who knows, after all it is the ring!

My first experience there was something between playing on the beach and lawn mawing. I asked around and kept getting the same answer: practice - practice - practice...

OK, I'm prety new at getting 200 pts per race, which is my current pts/race ratio And I didn't get 200 pts on the ring yet, but I'm prety sure I will because by now I know the ring prety good because I do all my testing on the ring.

At the moment I'm saving up a bit of cash, but I think I'll start the 1000 Miles somewhere this weekend. And after reading this thread and testing the Karma on my other save I think 66 is right about that one being the best option for the race, and I can't believe anybody can block faster opponents for 25 long lasting laps so there should be fast enough laps somewhere in that Karma. I'll definitily try it and let you know if it worked.

btw What's your average laptime on the ring right now?

 

[SjefGielen]

Fair point, but you can get away in the Karmann - I only had trouble with the Alfa, and pitted every 7 laps. The Tyres held together ok.
Have you tried the '62('63?) Skyline? It's expensive but it's a bit better than the Karmann. I'm not sure what other advice I can give - I know it can be done!

66.

What I remember of my first 1000 miles (I drove that one with the alfa) is that the Alfa 1600 GTA tops at a little over 200 km/h so you'll have to make sure your Karmann can too, or you'll loose to much time on the long straight.

 

[route_66]

What I remember of my first 1000 miles (I drove that one with the alfa) is that the Alfa 1600 GTA tops at a little over 200 km/h so you'll have to make sure your Karmann can too, or you'll loose to much time on the long straight.

Gear the Karmann to do 180 and you'll be fine, the Alfa's faster on the home straight, but the AI sucks at the First really fast bit....dunno what it's called - the 7 or 8 corners before the Carussell. You can take 4 or 5 seconds out of them through that bit alone.

66.

 

[RenesisEvo]

Gear the Karmann to do 180 and you'll be fine, the Alfa's faster on the home straight, but the AI sucks at the First really fast bit....dunno what it's called - the 7 or 8 corners before the Carussell. You can take 4 or 5 seconds out of them through that bit alone.

66.

Think thats Kallenhard - Kesselchen, with Steilstrecke just before the Carussel (there are many different spellings). I've noticed that too - they do seem to go slow through there. If you are good enough, the corners after Carussel (through Wipperman and up to Schwalbenschwanz) can gain you time also.

 

[route_66]

Think thats Kallenhard - Kesselchen, with Steilstrecke just before the Carussel (there are many different spellings). I've noticed that too - they do seem to go slow through there. If you are good enough, the corners after Carussel (through Wipperman and up to Schwalbenschwanz) can gain you time also.

Thanks for the names, but yeah the Ai sucks all the way through that section, up to the Downhill S's (You know what that bit's called? Downhill S into an Uphill Right.)

66.

 

[RenesisEvo]

Thanks for the names, but yeah the Ai sucks all the way through that section, up to the Downhill S's (You know what that bit's called? Downhill S into an Uphill Right.)

66.

Downhill S's into Uphill Right? That could be several points on the circuit

 

[route_66]

Downhill S's into Uphill Right? That could be several points on the circuit

Hohe Acht - Wipparman!
google is a godsend sometimes.

66.

 

[SjefGielen]

Hohe Acht - Wipparman!
google is a godsend sometimes.

66.

66 Congrats on this very very cool thread. There's only one question left for me: since this thread is so incredibly long I can't remember where your last summary is located. Could you post a link to it.

I don't think I can ever get close to your stats but I'm having a lot more fun than just tring to reach 100% playing the way I do now.

 

[route_66]

66 Congrats on this very very cool thread. There's only one question left for me: since this thread is so incredibly long I can't remember where your last summary is located. Could you post a link to it.

I don't think I can ever get close to your stats but I'm having a lot more fun than just tring to reach 100% playing the way I do now.

Is it not in the first post?
Reminds me....I should probably edit that a bit.

66.

 

[SjefGielen]

Is it not in the first post?
Reminds me....I should probably edit that a bit.

66.

Yep it is ... stupid me
I'm sorry but completely forgot about it...

 

[route_66]

Yep it is ... stupid me
I'm sorry but completely forgot about it...

No worries. Anyway, I've just updated it with everything I can remember. Hope it helps.

66.

 

[SjefGielen]

No worries. Anyway, I've just updated it with everything I can remember. Hope it helps.

66.

Thanks man, I'm going home now to have some more 200 pts fun and add a few series to my record

 

[slotcarrod]

As for the 1000 mile races. I got 200 points at Paris and Monaco with the VW. I am dreading Le Mans and for now there is nothing I can do with Nurburgring. It looks to me like you need to tow a trailer with a big jug of NITRO on it.

I am going to try that Skyline that 66 said is better than the VW and a different line up. 👍

I forgot to thank Moloch for getting me over the 100000 point hill ( I had to use a sport flywheel for that, lol OK not funny!). I used his summary a ton. Thanks Moloch! 👍

 

[RIGESP]

sorry

 

[jdw]

Wheres the problem in putting the TCS on a little bit? Dont tell me you consider it a crime to use that! (ASM is a crime though)

No real issue. I played 1/2 the game with AIDs set to default so I'm hardly a person to be concerned.

It's just that I asked...
Do you think setting TCS to 3 on the Clio will help conserve the tires enough for a 5 lap pitting schedule
Or should I try another car.


And the responses were different cars so... I just kept testing

I'd love to know how you drive a Speed 12...

Ummm... I don't!

 

[Wild Cobra Z28]

Well, I am probably about 25% done specing out the new and used cars. The list I put at the bottom of this post will be a number I assigned to each car for A-Spec points. They are relative values with no set zero point, and I may set a zero point later. If you get one particular value on a race, you can use my numbers to determine what a different car will yield. If you get for example 180 points with one car, select a car with 20 points less for 200.

Don’t rely 100% on this chart. First of all, at best the values are +/- 1 point. Second, they are all with the cars as received. And power, weight, downforce, and tire changes will change the numbers. However, these numbers will get you close.

Also note that the only ones I consider accurate are the ones that range from about 400 to 950 and 1370 to max. I still could have made a mistake I haven’t yet caught. Anything below 400 points and between approx 950 to 1300 I had to test with less reliable means. This means the points can be off by more than 1 with cascading +/- 1 errors, and also increases my chance of making an error.

Another thing to note is the cans not listed as used can be bought, prize, or 6.2 mile (10km) cars from the used lot. Some are even tested from arcade and may not exist in the new state for driving A-Spec. The used cars are bought from one of the 3 used dealers, but you can run the oil down to about the 90% new value like they are. Although I have not tested it, a used car with oil change should be nearly equal, if not equal to the new values.

Also not that where a prize car and new car for purchase exists, I already found one car with difference. The 2005 Ford GT. I mean to test the Speed 12, and others that can be aquired more than one way. I hope this only applies to the Ford GT.

Anyone who thinks I made a mistake on a car, please let me know. Also, if there is a small list of cars anyone wants tested, I will do them before continuing alphabetically. Just let me know.

Here is my list, order is points then car:

Pts__ Car:
101 1969 Fiat 500L
102 1965 Fiat 500F
110 1972 Fiat 500R
120 1962 Mazda Carol 360 Deluxe
131 1958 Subaru 360
144 1972 Honda Life Step Van
190 1970 Honda Z Act
198 1998 Daihatsu Midget II D-type
227 1963 Honda S500
272 1998 Daihatsu Storia CX 4WD
280 2002 Daihatsu Move Custom RS Limited
283 2001 Ford Ka
300 1997 Daihatsu Move SR-XX 4WD
313 1991 Honda Beat
313 1992 Honda Beat Version F
313 1993 Honda Beat Version Z
318 2002 Nissan Cube EX (FF/CVT)
322 2003 Honda Element
330 2002 Daihatsu Copen Active Top
334 2002 Audi A2 1.4
335 2002 Daihatsu Copen Detachable Top
338 1988 Volvo 240 GLT Estate
350 2002 Mini One
367 1999 Honda Insight Hybrid
367 2002 Mitsubishi Colt 1.5 Sport X Version
379 1979 Honda Civic 1500 3 door CX
381 2001 Honda Fit W
381 2003 Citroen Xsara VTR
385 2002 Volkswagon Lupo 1.4
387 2002 Citroen C3 1.6
391 2003 Honda Odyssey
399 2002 Toyota Voltz S
406 1983 Honda Civic 1500 3door 25i
407 1966 Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto
409 1988 Honda Accord Coupe
412 1970 Honda 1300 Coupe 9 S
416 2000 Fiat Punto HGT Abarth
417 2000 Chrysler PT Cruiser
430 2003 Peugeot 106 S16
439 1983 Honda Ballade Sports CR-X 1.5i
441 1983 Honda City Turbo II
444 2000 Fiat Barchetta Giovane
445 1997 Eagle Talon Esi
445 2001 Peugeot 206cc
448 2002 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 Twinspark
449 1968 Honda S800 RSC Race Car
451 1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600
458 1973 Alpine A310 1600VE
460 2004 BMW 120i
466 Used 1968 Nissan Fairlady 2000 (SR311)
467 Used 1995 Honda Civic SiR-II (EG)
470 Used 1992 Honda CR-X Del Sol SiR
475 Used 1990 Honda CR-X SiR
478 Used 1998 Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V
480 Used 1997 Honda Civic Type R (EK)
483 1997 MG MGF
485 Used 1998 Honda Civic Type R (EK)
489 2003 Ford Focus ST 170
494 2002 Toyota MR2 Spyder (6-speed sequential manual transmission)
496 1973 BMW 2002 Turbo
497 1995 Honda Civic SiR-II (EG)
497 2000 Citroen Xantia 3.0i V6 Exclusive
498 1964 Ginetta G4
499 2002 Mini Cooper-S
499 2004 BMW 120d
500 Used 2001 Acura Integra Type-R
502 Used 2000 Audi TT Coupe 1.8T quattro
503 2002 Toyota Corolla Runx Z Aerotourer
503 2003 Chevrolet SSR
505 Used 1989 Mitsubishi Galant 2.0 DOHC Turbo VR-4
506 Used 1998 Honda Prelude Type S
509 1980 Renault 5 Turbo
509 1998 Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V
510 2003 Citroen C5 V6 Exclusive
510 Used 1991 Honda Prelude Si VTEC
511 Used 1995 Honda Integra Type R (DC2)
511 Used 1998 Honda Integra Type R (DC2)
511 Used 1998 Honda Prelude SiR S spec
514 Used 1991 Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione
514 Used 2000 Honda Accord Euro-R
515 1986 Toyota Celica 2000 GT-Four (ST165)
516 1985 Mazda RX-7 GT Limited (FC,J)
516 Used 1991 Nissan Skyline GTS-t Type M
516 Used 2001 Honda Civic Type R (EP)
518 Used 1989 Nissan Skyline GTS-t Type M
519 2001 Nissan Primera 20V
520 2001 Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i V6 24V
521 2002 Renault Clio Renault Sport 2.0 16V
523 Used 1998 Ford Taurus SHO
524 2002 Honda Accord Euro-R
526 2003 Ford SVT F-150 Lightning
527 2004 Acura RSX Type-S
529 1982 Audi Quattro
529 2002 Audi S3
530 1999 Hommel Berlinette R/S Coupe
530 2001 Acura Integra Type-R
532 1973 Alpine A110 1600S
534 1983 Nissan Skyline HT 2000 Turbo RS
535 Used 2001 Acura CL 3.2 Type-S
536 Used 1990 Mazda RX-7 Infini III (FC, J)
539 2001 Alfa Romeo GTV 3.0 V6 24V
541 Used 1996 Nissan 240SX (S14)
544 1991 Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione
547 2000 Audi TT Coupe 1.8T quattro
551 2004 Honda Civic Type R (EP)
552 2004 DMC DeLorean S2
552 Used 2000 Renault Clio Sport V6 24V
557 1974 Mitsubishi Lancer 1600 GSR Rally Car
559 2000 Fiat Coupe Turbo Plus
560 1978 Dome Zero
560 1991 Toyota Celica GT-Four RC (ST185)
561 2004 Chrysler Crossfire
562 Used 1998 Audi S4
568 1987 Buick GNX
568 2003 Honda Integra Type R (DC5)
569 2003 Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro
571 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX
573 2003 Acura CL 3.2 Type-S
573 2003 Audi A3 3.2 quattro
574 2004 Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V
576 2005 BMW 330i
576 Used 2000 Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex S. Shigeno Ver.
580 1988 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z Concept
581 2003 BMW Z4
583 2001 Honda S2000 Type V
583 2003 Dodge SRT 4
583 Used 1991 Acura NSX
584 2002 Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
585 2003 Renault Clio Renault Sport V6 Phase 2
593 2004 Lotus Elise 111R
594 Used 1997 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Coupe
595 1998 Honda Gathers Drider Civic Race Car
602 1984 Ford RS200
603 2002 Ford Focus RS
606 2002 ASL Garaiya
606 Used 1997 Acura NSX Coupe
609 Used 1998 BMW M Coupe
612 1963 Chevrolet Corvetter Coupe (C2)
615 2004 Amuse S2000 Street Version
616 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 302
617 2005 Ford Mustang GT
622 2003 Mazda RX-8
624 2002 Chevrolet Silverado SST Concept
624 2002 Mercedes-Benz SL 500 (R230)
631 2004 Acura NSX
636 2000 Tommy Kaira ZZ-S
642 2005 Chrysler 300C
645 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS
647 2002 Nismo Fairlady Z S-tune Concept by Gran Turismo (Z34)
650 2004 Holden Commodore SS
651 Used 1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport (C4)
652 2001 Subaru Impreza STi Prodrive Style
652 2003 Audi S4
653 1991 TVR V8S
654 2004 Holden Monaro CV8
657 2004 Amuse S2000 R1
659 1970 Dodge Charger 440 R/T
659 Used 2000 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R
666 2001 Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R (PaceCar)
667 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454
670 1969 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray L46 350 (C3)
671 2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD)
671 2004 FPV F6 Typhoon
672 2000 Chevrolet Camero SS
674 2004 BMW M3
676 2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR
677 2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II Nur (R34)
680 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI RS T.M.E
681 2004 FPV GT
683 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII RS
688 2001 Audi RS 4
691 2004 Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Spec C (GD, Type-II)
695 2000 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R
702 2003 BMW 320i Touring Car
710 2000 Aston Martin DB7 Vantage Coupe
715 2002 Audi RS 6 Avant
715 2003 BMW M3 CSL
716 1990 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (C4)
716 2003 BMW M3 GTR
720 2002 Audi RS 6
721 2002 Lotus Esprit V8
723 Used 1997 TVR Cerbera Speed Six
734 2004 Acura HSC
739 2003 Audi Pikes Peak quattro
740 2003 TVR T350C
740 Used 1999 Aston Martin V8 Vantage
743 2004 Aston Martin Vanquish
744 2002 Acura DN-X
748 1998 Ford Escort Rally Car
751 2000 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5)
755 1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI Rally Car
755 2003 Aston Martin DB9 Coupe
758 1999 Citroen Xsara Rally Car
758 1999 Ford Focus Rally Car
759 2003 Callaway C12
762 2002 TVR Tamora
768 2000 TVR Tuscan Speed 6
776 1971 Dodge Charger Super Bee
777 2004 Mercedes-Benz SL 600 (R230)
778 1984 Mitsubishi Starion 4WD Rally Car
783 1999 Dodge Viper GTS
784 2002 Mitsubishi CZ-3 Tarmac Rally Car
789 2005 BMW M5
791 2002 Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230)
795 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Super Rally Car
806 1966 AC Cars 427 S/C
813 2003 Subaru Impreza Rally Car
818 2004 Amemiya Asparadrink RX-7 (JGTC)
824 2003 Subaru Cusco Subaru Advan Impreza (JGTC)
827 2003 ASL Arta Garaiya (JGTC)
830 2003 Dodge Viper SRT 10
834 2001 Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R
849 1985 Renault 5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car
851 2002 Ford GT (Concept)
853 2001 Nissan C-West Razo Silvia (JGTC)
858 2000 Dodge Viper GTS R Concept
873 2003 Audi Nuvolari quattro
884 1994 Cizeta V16T
893 1992 Jaguar XJ220
896 1985 Ford RS 200 Rally Car
906 2000 Pagani Zonda C12
907 2006 Ford GT (no stripe)
910 2002 Toyota RSC Rally Raid Car
914 1962 Buick Special
918 2005 Ford GT
922 2002 Saleen S7
924 2003 Audi LeMans quattro
927 2004 Blitz ER34 D1 spec 2004 (D1GP)
929 2002 Honda NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car
935 2003 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
937 2004 Amuse S2000 GTI
938 1986 Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Evolution
941 2004 HKS Genki Hyper Silvia RS2 (D1GP)
965 2004 Amuse CarbonR (R34)
966 2001 Volkswagon W12 Nardo Concept
987 2000 Honda Castrol Mugen NSX (JGTC)
988 2001 Honda Mobil 1 NSX (JGTC)
994 2001 Honda Loctite NSX (JGTC)
998 2003 Honda Takata Dome NSX (JGTC)
1005 2000 Tommy Kaira ZZ-II
1009 2000 Toyota Castrol Tom's Supra (JGTC)
1010 2002 Honda NSX-R Prototype LM Race Car
1014 2001 Toyota au Cerumo Sipra (JGTC)
1020 2000 Nissan Calsonic Skyline (JGTC)
1034 2002 Audi Abt Audi TT-R Touring Car
1034 2004 Audi A4 Touring Car
1036 1993 Nissan Calsonic Skyline GT-R Race Car
1037 1963 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C2) Race Car
1050 2002 Cadillac Cien
1058 2003 Nissan Xanavi Nismo GT-R (JGTC)
1062 2004 Nissan Motul Pitwork Z (JGTC)
1071 2001 Mazda RX-7 LM Race Car
1079 1967 Chaparrel 2D Race Car
1082 1999 Lister Storm V12 Race Car
1090 2001 Jaguar XJ220 LM Race Car
1100 Nissan 350Z Concept LM Race Car
1115 2000 Ford Falcon XR8 Race Car
1119 2000 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
1141 2001 Chevrolet Camaro LM Race Car
1154 2002 Ford GT LM Race Car
1162 2000 Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Orenca
1166 2004 Ford GT LM Race Car Spec-II
1188 2001 Pagani Zonda LM Race Car
1215 1997 BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car
1256 1970 Chaparrel 2J Race Car
1261 1998 Panoz Esperante GTR-1 Race Car
1309 1998 Suzuki Escudo Dirt Trail Car
1311 Used 1998 Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car
1346 1998 AMG Mercedes CLK-GTR Race Car
1358 2004 Gillet Vertigo Race Car
1360 Used 1991 Mazda 787 Race Car
1361 Used 1999 Toyota GT-One Race Car (TS020)
1368 1998 Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car
1380 1970 Toyota 7 Race Car
1414 1992 Peugeot 905 Race Car
1418 1991 Mazda 787 Race Car
1420 1999 Toyota GT-One Race Car (TS020)
1421 1999 BMW V12 LMR Race Car
1424 2004 Pescarolo Playstation C60
1431 2003 Pescarolo Courage C60
1432 2001 Audi R8 Race Car
1444 2003 Bentley Speed 8 Race Car
1455 Used 1992 Nissan R92CP Race Car
1487 1988 Jaguar XJR-9 Race Car
1510 1989 Minolta Toyota 88C-V Race Car
1515 1992 Nissan R92CP Race Car
1523 1989 Sauber Mercedes C9 Race Car
1548 2004 Polyphony Formula Gran Turismo
N/A 1937 Audi Auto Union V16 Type C Streamline
N/A 2002 Caterham Seven Fire Blade
N/A 2002 Chrysler Prowler
N/A 2003 Jay Leno Tank Car

 

[jdw]

Another thing to note is the cans not listed as used can be bought, prize, or 6.2 mile (10km) cars from the used lot. Some are even tested from arcade and may not exist in the new state for driving A-Spec. The used cars are bought from one of the 3 used dealers, but you can run the oil down to about the 90% new value like they are. Although I have not tested it, a used car with oil change should be nearly equal, if not equal to the new values.

...
1418 1991 Mazda 787 Race Car
1420 1999 Toyota GT-One Race Car (TS020)
1421 1999 BMW V12 LMR Race Car
...

Dude, that's AWESOME! 👍

Thanks for taking the time to do this and present it to everybody.

If I have some time this weekend, i'll go through my notes, make a couple of accuracy checks and see if I can help you fill in some holes there. I'm sure I have a couple hundred cars tested for points but it's all on paper

I'll be sure to provide the details of how they were derived so they can properly checked.

I do have a question just for clarification. Are all your "Used" entries taken straight from the lot, no oil change, in to being tested?

 

[slotcarrod]

Hey Wild Cobra Z-28! This is fantastic work you have done! 👍

You should get paid for this. It's people like you that make getting 200 points easy. There are so many guys who go to great pains to provide us with info on this forum, It is great.

Thanks Man!

I think your info will help me with 1000 miles.

 

[Moloch_horridus]

Here is my list...

Huge effort I now understand what you have been on about. I personally think this deserves a thread of its own. If the list is the first post it can be easily located and updated.

Anyway, congratulations.

French Grand Prix
For those of you that are not huge fans of the Alpine 310 (Route_66's suggestion - and on N1s!!!) try the Renault Megane 2.0 16V on S1s with c.100kg ballast. Cars to avoid are:
Clio Sport V6: (I didn't realise there were 2, I think the Phase 2 is the problem and it will eat you for breakfast at Sarthe - my final lineup had no Clios);
any Citroen: they are all rubbish
Renault Avantime: it would also appear to be rubbish

A good lineup is
Hommel Berlinette R/S Coupé (the main opposition)
Peugeot 106 Rallye (can also cause a few problems)
Peugeot 206 S16
Peugeot 206 RC
Renault Megane 2.0 16V (to make up the numbers)

 

[Wild Cobra Z28]

Dude, that's AWESOME! 👍

Thanks for taking the time to do this and present it to everybody.

You're welcome. I think the 200 point thing is a great challenge. I doub't I'm good enough to make to 100k club, but I was doing this once I discovered A-Spec points, so I figured why not share the wealth. Maybe it will help others.

If I have some time this weekend, i'll go through my notes, make a couple of accuracy checks and see if I can help you fill in some holes there. I'm sure I have a couple hundred cars tested for points but it's all on paper

I'll be sure to provide the details of how they were derived so they can properly checked.

If you want, but I myself am particular about some things and I will just repeat the work anyway. If you want to index the values off mine and post for others, that would be great.

I do have a question just for clarification. Are all your "Used" entries taken straight from the lot, no oil change, in to being tested?

Yes, all cars, including the used, are tested as-is... no changes at all... The ones I marked used are not from driving, but bought used. Unless I'm wrong, all used cars are about 90% the new car values in HP, including the coveted Black Race Cars.

I wonder how the Black Polyphony Formulat Gran Turismo rated in the Formula Gran Turismo race? 60 points? More? Less?

I don't have 100% game yet, that would be a good one to know..

Reminds me, I still need to win the Nissan R89C Race Car to test also....

 

[Wild Cobra Z28]

Slotcarrod, Moloch_horridus, you’re welcome and I hope it does help. Please note that this is only 293 cars from over 950, maybe over 1000 new and used car values combined. I still have a long way to go.

Oh… I forgot the 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 Larame, which is the bug car at only a 235 value….. probably forgot others that I have tested already, and I left out a few that I suspect I made a mistake on.

After I complete 400-950 and 1370+ range cars, I will go and double check the low power and 950 to 1370 cars. I am not testing them anymore at the moment, because until I have the cars completed above and below them, I have to chain too many car values to derive a proper place. I will likely change the entire point system value I’m using. I will try to pinpoint a virtual zero for calculation purposes. I already suspect all the car values will increase by about 400-500 points to get a virtual zero. My actual last good 900+ car is the VW W12 Nardo Concept and lowest 1300+ car is the Suzki Escudo. The range between these cars may slightly change also when I get to improving the accuracy, but when we deal with less than a 200 point range, this in not too important….

Again, any specific car requests?

 

[SjefGielen]

Fair point, but you can get away in the Karmann - I only had trouble with the Alfa, and pitted every 7 laps. The Tyres held together ok.
Have you tried the '62('63?) Skyline? It's expensive but it's a bit better than the Karmann. I'm not sure what other advice I can give - I know it can be done!

66.

Is the '67 Skyline 2000 GT-B an option, it's the one you win in the beginner FR Challenge. It's a 🤬 of a lot cheaper.

Sjef...

 

[ANK]

As for the 1000 mile races. I got 200 points at Paris and Monaco with the VW. I am dreading Le Mans and for now there is nothing I can do with Nurburgring. It looks to me like you need to tow a trailer with a big jug of NITRO on it.

I am going to try that Skyline that 66 said is better than the VW and a different line up. 👍

I forgot to thank Moloch for getting me over the 100000 point hill ( I had to use a sport flywheel for that, lol OK not funny!). I used his summary a ton. Thanks Moloch! 👍

What set up did you you use at Monaco? i have now finished Paris and Le Mans just Nurburgring and Monaco left.

 

[SjefGielen]

Beginner Hall

Japanese Hall
Japanese Championship [200 A-spec] ASL Garaiya
All-Japan GT C'ship [200 A-spec] Suzuki GSX R/4
Japanese 80's Festival [200? A-spec] MX5: <Max hp; [Unconfirmed]

Roadster Cup [200? A-spec] MX5: <Max hp; [Unconfirmed]

I don't know if others confirmed these allready. If not I can:
The Roadster Cup (Japan - Mazda): I've done it in a '95 MX5, NA1, FC SP, N3 of S with ballast) and NOS (you'll need it to get the lead, after that block)

With basicaly the same setup (play a little with the ballast) I did the Japanese 90's Festival for 200 pts.

 

[slotcarrod]

What set up did you you use at Monaco? i have now finished Paris and Le Mans just Nurburgring and Monaco left.

I used NA2, race exaust, chip, 115 (I think) balast at the rear. N1 front N3 rear, switching to N3 on the front after first pit. Gear box, flywheel no LSD. Up 3 on font and rear springs, down to 6 on dampening, dump the ride hight, no change on toe or camber. Set your ratio close so you get top speed 7/8 of the longest straight.

I used this same set up in Paris, just changed the ratio.

What set up did you use for Le Mans?

 

[ANK]

I used NA2, race exaust, chip, 115 (I think) balast at the rear. N1 front N3 rear, switching to N3 on the front after first pit. Gear box, flywheel no LSD. Up 3 on font and rear springs, down to 6 on dampening, dump the ride hight, no change on toe or camber. Set your ratio close so you get top speed 7/8 of the longest straight.

I used this same set up in Paris, just changed the ratio.

What set up did you use for Le Mans?

On Le Mans i used a used Honda S600 with no oil change stage 3 tune race exhaust race chip N1/N2 tyres 58 ballast with gear ratio set to 5.
I think this looks like the car to win all 4 races.