2011 Hennessey Venom GT

[Dan]

Even though officially it's not the world record holder due to it not doing two runs both ways and also not due to the limited amount of venoms being built, it is however the unofficial fastest street legal car out there.

For how long though???

Well, I'm sure Hennessey will do that second run and build a few more cars just to make sure.

But I also feel that Bugatti will pull another bulls*** tactic like claiming the speed limiter could be removed on Veyron SuperSports. Yeah, they never publicly stated that at the time of the car setting the top speed record.

 

[McLaren]

Even though officially it's not the world record holder due to it not doing two runs both ways and also not due to the limited amount of venoms being built, it is however the unofficial fastest street legal car out there.

For how long though???

It's not. Couple Ford GT Twin Turbos hit the Venom's top speed in a standing mile.

 

[Vic Reign93]

It's not. Couple Ford GT Twin Turbos hit the Venom's top speed in a standing mile.

I stand corrected.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

It's not. Couple Ford GT Twin Turbos hit the Venom's top speed in a standing mile.

I think he meant the unofficial fastest limited production street legal production car out there

edit: tree'd

 

[McLaren]

I think he meant the unofficial fastest limited production street legal production car out there

edit: tree'd

Obviously that isn't what he meant if he said he stood corrected. I think he would have put "limited production" if he did.

Well, I'm sure Hennessey will do that second run and build a few more cars just to make sure.

But I also feel that Bugatti will pull another bulls*** tactic like claiming the speed limiter could be removed on Veyron SuperSports. Yeah, they never publicly stated that at the time of the car setting the top speed record.

Of course the limiter can be removed, that's why it's called a limiter in the first place. A "bs" tactic would be Bugatti claiming it can revise the ratios or add safer tires.

 

[Vic Reign93]

Obviously that isn't what he meant if he said he stood corrected. I think he would have put "limited production" if he did.

Guess it's not a good idea to post at 2 in the morning.
Yeah I meant to say limited production.
Thanks for the clear up. 👍

 

[Crumpet]

I just cannot be impressed with the achievements of a Lotus based hypercar with a large engine in it.

A reputable time on the Nurburgring would change my mind.

 

[McLaren]

Guess it's not a good idea to post at 2 in the morning.
Yeah I meant to say limited production.
Thanks for the clear up. 👍

Even then, I find it hard to still give it credit; I'm positive there's more TT GTs out there than there are Venoms completed at the moment.

 

[Vic Reign93]

Even then, I find it hard to still give it credit; I'm positive there's more TT GTs out there than there are Venoms completed at the moment.

Well 11 or so Venoms so far have been built so you're more than likely right with that statement.

 

[Qvale]

It looks like a Lotus Elise on steroids.

 

[Sanji Himura]

Well, I'm sure Hennessey will do that second run and build a few more cars just to make sure.

But I also feel that Bugatti will pull another bulls*** tactic like claiming the speed limiter could be removed on Veyron SuperSports. Yeah, they never publicly stated that at the time of the car setting the top speed record.

Of course the limiter can be removed, that's why it's called a limiter in the first place. A "bs" tactic would be Bugatti claiming it can revise the ratios or add safer tires.

No, a BS tactic would be Hennessey making one more pass and claim that it has the world record. When the Veyron SS had it at 258 mph, it made three passes, remember. Two by their test driver to set the world record, and one by James May. If the Venom GT has reliability, something that I suspect at those high speeds it does not, it should pull off three passes at high speed in a single day. There would have been no need for the BS excuse as to why it only did a single run.

 

[playnthru]

Three passes you say? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hennessey_Venom_GT . The Venom GT has made three top speed passes all faster than the Bugatti..

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Three passes you say? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hennessey_Venom_GT . The Venom GT has made three top speed passes all faster than the Bugatti..

I think he's talking about making three passes in a single day. To get the Guinness world record, you have to have 2 passes in both directions and average it. Not only that, to be a "production car" it has to have made 30 units, the Venom GT will only make 29.

 

[Th3Juggernaut]

It's not. Couple Ford GT Twin Turbos hit the Venom's top speed in a standing mile.

done on non street legal 117oct racing gas. i think they veyron/venom's runs were both on premium unleaded pump gas.

the venom is impressive but i still think the veyron's runs are more so given it's a creature comfort car and weighs over 1300lbs more.

 

[playnthru]

I think he's talking about making three passes in a single day. To get the Guinness world record, you have to have 2 passes in both directions and average it. Not only that, to be a "production car" it has to have made 30 units, the Venom GT will only make 29.

👍

I understand. My point is the Venom GT has made well more than the number of passes required. It has also made to back passes, though, not in the same direction.

I don't think reliability is the issue here. I don't see why anyone is even mentioning that?

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Hennessey said they didn't make a pass in the other direction because NASA only allowed one run. Who knows if its true or not. I think its true, because NASA would definitely say something like, "You lairs! We said you can make as many runs as you want!"

 

[Dan]

Hennessey said they didn't make a pass in the other direction because NASA only allowed one run. Who knows if its true or not. I think its true, because NASA would definitely say something like, "You lairs! We said you can make as many runs as you want!"

Then it would break into a high school girl argument.

Hennessey: "Nuh-uh! You were like 'nuh-uh.'"

NASA: "Nuh-uh! We were like 'uh-huh.'"

 

[Sanji Himura]

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I understand. My point is the Venom GT has made well more than the number of passes required. It has also made made to back passes, though, not in the same direction.

I don't think reliability is the issue here. I don't see why anyone is even mentioning that?

Because prior to the last test, Hennessy claimed that the car can go 270 mph, and intentionally underperformed the car to set those records, as if they put a limiter on it. Bugatti put a limiter on the Veyron SS because of safety concerns. The question should be would Hennessy put a limiter on the non-testing models, and if so, why.

 

[playnthru]

We know it can run back-to-back runs. It did at Lemoore NAS in June, both runs over 265.

The argument is with production numbers and two way averages.

Because prior to the last test, Hennessy claimed that the car can go 270 mph, and intentionally underperformed the car to set those records, as if they put a limiter on it. Bugatti put a limiter on the Veyron SS because of safety concerns. The question should be would Hennessy put a limiter on the non-testing models, and if so, why.

Limiter? no I would think not. More likely "here's the boost control, you are on a safe setting*wink*"

High boost turbo cars like this have adjustable boost settings, You simply turn down the boost. Of course it could be a limiter though the computer I suppose? I don't know if they do anything to limit top speed?

 

[McLaren]

done on non street legal 117oct racing gas. i think they veyron/venom's runs were both on premium unleaded pump gas.

the venom is impressive but i still think the veyron's runs are more so given it's a creature comfort car and weighs over 1300lbs more.

It doesn't really matter though since one of them is a Guinness certified record holder for the fastest street legal car which was my point.

Even if the venom can do 270mph, it's not the fastest thing on the street legally.

 

[Zenith]

It doesn't really matter though since one of them is a Guinness certified record holder for the fastest street legal car which was my point.

Even if the venom can do 270mph, it's not the fastest thing on the street legally.

I agree. The definitions of production car and street legal are vague and arbitrary at best. Just another reason why this record is irrelevant.

 

[Th3Juggernaut]

I think it just about hit the limit safely, in that new video it started wandering around about 255mph. Going any further than he did didn't look safe. The Veyron replacement is on the way with more power supposedly so I'm sure the venom will make another pass eventually if they still care about high speed runs at that point.

 

[RocZX]

I find it funny how everyone is arguing if the top speed run is official or not. But no one is looking at the fact that Hennessey BS on what their cars can do, lies about the cars they make and they lies to their customers.
Even if the run is official and they make the right number of cars to make it a production cars, I wonder how many of those cars can actually hit 270mph?

 

[TheCracker]

Even if the run is official and they make the right number of cars to make it a production cars, I wonder how many of those cars can actually hit 270mph?

It doesn't really matter. If you need a arrow-straight 8.7km private test track or Space Shuttle landing strip to make those numbers, it's totally irrelevant anyway. Joe Public will never get anywhere near 270mph.

 

[Sanji Himura]

I find it funny how everyone is arguing if the top speed run is official or not. But no one is looking at the fact that Hennessey BS on what their cars can do, lies about the cars they make and they lies to their customers.
Even if the run is official and they make the right number of cars to make it a production cars, I wonder how many of those cars can actually hit 270mph?

Actually, there is one straight that when cleared could boast 200+. It's in Florida.

 

[kennylmao]

Needs more track, not fast enough.

 

[McLaren]

I think RocZX is questioning the reliability/build of the customer cars being able to hit 270mph, not the car itself as Hennessey has had a lot of controversy concerning a client car to one they market.

 

[sems4arsenal]

Yes the Venom isn't as impressive as the Veyron, which is a masterpiece and an engineering wonder. It is still the faster car thought which is all they care about really.

 

[Sanji Himura]

I think RocZX is questioning the reliability/build of the customer cars being able to hit 270mph, not the car itself as Hennessey has had a lot of controversy concerning a client car to one they market.

Which was my overall point in my first post. There is absolutely no way that Hennessy could deliver a 270mph car safely, so they would have to put a limiter on the actual production models.

 

[McLaren]

The limiter isn't the issue with Hennessey. It's actual build quality & if the car can deliver it's advertised performance regardless if it does 270mph or 200mph.