2012 Grand Premio Petrobras do Brasil
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2012 has been a truly fascinating season, with a record number of winners. I've enjoyed every minute of it.
I must admit that Vettel is a great and deserving champion, even though he does have the best car. Seldom does the champion drive a patently inferior car, and here Rosberg in '82 famously comes to mind, for one.
Vettel I think may be unusual for a modern F1 driver, in that he uniquely is his own manager, and seems to have quite a high historical grasp of the sport. Most of today's drivers seem born and bred to race, and only to race. In the distant past, racers were often more all-around accomplished gentlemen, many being multi-disciplined sportsmen, engineers, some with abilities in music and the arts.
I wonder which of today's drivers would best be able to carry on a discursive conversation with educated people outside the narrow sport of F1? Would this be Sebastian Vettel?
Respectfully submitted,
Steve
I must admit that Vettel is a great and deserving champion, even though he does have the best car. Seldom does the champion drive a patently inferior car, and here Rosberg in '82 famously comes to mind, for one.
Vettel I think may be unusual for a modern F1 driver, in that he uniquely is his own manager, and seems to have quite a high historical grasp of the sport. Most of today's drivers seem born and bred to race, and only to race. In the distant past, racers were often more all-around accomplished gentlemen, many being multi-disciplined sportsmen, engineers, some with abilities in music and the arts.
I wonder which of today's drivers would best be able to carry on a discursive conversation with educated people outside the narrow sport of F1? Would this be Sebastian Vettel?
Respectfully submitted,
Steve
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I'd personally like to see who has picked up the most by watching over the shoulder of Adrian Newey or Tony Purnell, It's easy to see why racing driver's are known as meat head's who know stuff all specially over the last 30 year's, as Dotini said 90% of the current racing driver's in any discipline be it F1, NASCAR, V8's, LMP, DTM etc, are bred and raised to race car's, which almost goes for all well paid sport's, so any Knowledge of any form would most likely be picked up by looking over the shoulder's of the highly intelligent people running the team,
The reason I see this as my opinion is that for the life of Casey Stoner his family home schooled him from 12 year's old, and lived out of a camper trailer until he reached moto GP, so without being grounded firmly at a base, how could one develop their education into college/ university? and with the new boys to any sport getting younger and younger, they wont need to get educated, so when then retire they will have a heavy wallet and not require education to get by,
personally I think Fernando Alonso or Mark Webber would probably be the most intellectual driver's on the grid, apparently Lewis Hamilton is creating rap music, Michael Shcumacher is handy on a Motor bike, Kimi Raikkonen can finish top 5 in any motorized race (snow mobiles) and from what I've read Pedro De La Rosa play's golf from a handicap of plus 2, which is minimum required to be professional,
The reason I see this as my opinion is that for the life of Casey Stoner his family home schooled him from 12 year's old, and lived out of a camper trailer until he reached moto GP, so without being grounded firmly at a base, how could one develop their education into college/ university? and with the new boys to any sport getting younger and younger, they wont need to get educated, so when then retire they will have a heavy wallet and not require education to get by,
personally I think Fernando Alonso or Mark Webber would probably be the most intellectual driver's on the grid, apparently Lewis Hamilton is creating rap music, Michael Shcumacher is handy on a Motor bike, Kimi Raikkonen can finish top 5 in any motorized race (snow mobiles) and from what I've read Pedro De La Rosa play's golf from a handicap of plus 2, which is minimum required to be professional,
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Sorry, corrected error...Nice to hear 👍You made my day:tup:
Also I have been whaching Seb destroy everyone ever since he was in Formula BMW
Big fan.
The "E" is crossed with the "E" of "RED" from "RED BULL"....................
I am really really going to miss him... I don't think it was fair the way Mercedes made him announce his retirement after they told everyone they signed Lewis... They should have done it the other way around... SHAME ON YOU ROSS BRAWN
that is no way to treat an old friend....
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Another good impartial article analysing things from Gary Anderson - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20501817
I wish he wrote all of the BBC articles, not that muppet Andrew Benson writing biased guff like this - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20490565
I wish he wrote all of the BBC articles, not that muppet Andrew Benson writing biased guff like this - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20490565
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The "E" is crossed with the "E" of "RED" from "RED BULL"....................
Oh god, of course! Nothing to do with your ridiculous post, it's all my fault!
I am really really going to miss him... I don't think it was fair the way Mercedes made him announce his retirement after they told everyone they signed Lewis... They should have done it the other way around... SAME ON YOU ROSS BRAWN
Get your facts right, they were practically forced to do something because Michael was umming and ahhing about what he was going to do. Hamilton wasn't going to be available forever so with Michael not making his mind up they made a move.
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Related:
After this epic race we saw, I think it is an appropriate time to remind people to vote for Interlagos in Gran Turismo series (with dynamic weather, of course). It is currently the most wanted track on the feedback forum:
http://feedback.gtplanet.net/forums/99317-most-wanted-tracks
How about adding some more votes there to make a stronger case for it?
After this epic race we saw, I think it is an appropriate time to remind people to vote for Interlagos in Gran Turismo series (with dynamic weather, of course). It is currently the most wanted track on the feedback forum:
http://feedback.gtplanet.net/forums/99317-most-wanted-tracks
How about adding some more votes there to make a stronger case for it?
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Unfortunately it's quite clear PD have paid no attention to the feedback section here.
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For a laugh someone should submit this 7 thing to the motoring press websites and see if one of them is silly enough to publish it.
Spa was already in development before GT5 came out though, we know that from those pictures of a PC folder directory. Yes I'm being pessimistic but there is nothing that I've seen that shows they've paid any attention to the feedback section. Most of the top 10 generally requested things with 5,000+ votes have not been done.
Spa was already in development before GT5 came out though, we know that from those pictures of a PC folder directory. Yes I'm being pessimistic but there is nothing that I've seen that shows they've paid any attention to the feedback section. Most of the top 10 generally requested things with 5,000+ votes have not been done.
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Even with the future inclusion of this or this?
Granted one of them has been a regular host of GT Academy, but I'm sure there's been some demand of it for a while even before.
BOT: Forgive me if this has already been posted or talked about (been in and out of this thread), but found this article. This portion in particular got my attention:
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Plus the option to save during races, Lambo Aventador...
Anyway, we are going waaay off-topic. It was just a remainder for people that love this classic F1 track. If you wanna be negative, don't vote. Lets move on.
Anyway, we are going waaay off-topic. It was just a remainder for people that love this classic F1 track. If you wanna be negative, don't vote. Lets move on.
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Does it happen to be an online motoring magazine that you write? 
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He started his career in 1991 and ended in 2012. 2012-1991=21. His comeback lasted 3 seasons. 21/3=7!
Another one I'm not sure if people mentioned, the last season in his first career was 2006. Want to take a random shot in the dark how many wins and fastest laps he took that year? Also in 2002 he took 7 poles and 7 fastest laps.
Some records he holds:
Most consecutive wins - 7 (in 2004)
Wins in Canada - 7
Wins in a season for runner up - 7 (2006)
Some records he holds:
Most consecutive wins - 7 (in 2004)
Wins in Canada - 7
Wins in a season for runner up - 7 (2006)
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True, although that wasn't what I was implying... What I meant to say is that, Mercedes could have signed Lewis and told Michael to announce his retirement before braking the news that they signed Lewis to the press... Don't you think? It's just a simple display of respect... But that wasn't the case
I'm sorry, once I saw these, I needed to post them here
I espacially like the question and answer to Seb at 11"00'
I think this last bit is nice for Schumi
I like it when Michael says to Alonso "He should have gone easy on the old man [myself]"
I espacially like the question and answer to Seb at 11"00'
I think this last bit is nice for Schumi
I like it when Michael says to Alonso "He should have gone easy on the old man [myself]"
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Mild Seven was a sponsor for Benetton.
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