2013 US G.D. - Racecamp is finished! Nick McMillen (GumballCGT) is our champion!

[Motor City Hami]

Sony updated their eligibility rules yet? They better snap to it asap.

Are you eligible since you qualified for a season already? Seems a shame that you'd only get one shot. People can go to multiple American Idol try outs.

 

[Dr_Watson]

Are you eligible since you qualified for a season already? Seems a shame that you'd only get one shot. People can go to multiple American Idol try outs.

Yeah, but once they're on the show and eliminated can you come back? You can do multiple GTA "tryouts"; there's several people right now in the top 31 that were at Nationals in 2011 or 2012 but didn't make it to Silverstone who are still eligible. It's just being on the TV show @ Silverstone race camp that pulls your future participation.

 

[VspecZR1GT2RS89]

I got a time of 2:20.405 on the TT. Ranked 570th place! Finally, seems I getting some of that "Hell Week" fever. When I got the time I though I would be 2:21.09 or something around it.

After all those annoying red laps, I achieved a somewhat impressive lap. It's not perfect, but at least I'm in the 500-600 ranks. So I'll try to see if I can get a 2:19-2:17 and a lower rank, guessing around the 250 mark maybe. But now I'm getting some rest or play some GTA or something. Get back to the TT later.

 

[Wardez]

Yeah, but once they're on the show and eliminated can you come back? You can do multiple GTA "tryouts"; there's several people right now in the top 31 that were at Nationals in 2011 or 2012 but didn't make it to Silverstone who are still eligible. It's just being on the TV show @ Silverstone race camp that pulls your future participation.

I need to find where this was stated, but the organizers are saying that also want to exclude all National Finalists from further participation as well. If it's true, you really gotta make this one count if you reach Nat's!

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

I need to find where this was stated, but the organizers are saying that also want to exclude all National Finalists from further participation as well. If it's true, you really gotta make this one count if you reach Nat's!

I can understand why but the organizers might want to reduce the number of entries per year. There's always new names that pop out of nowhere every year but not 31. Heck, if they gave all prior contestants another chance, I'd probably be outside looking in right now.

 

[Dr_Watson]

I need to find where this was stated, but the organizers are saying that also want to exclude all National Finalists from further participation as well. If it's true, you really gotta make this one count if you reach Nat's!

yikes... I'm just going on assumptions of what was done last year. If they drop everyone that's been to nationals I'd be sniffing the top 10 rather than in the bubble zone... and Rich would be in the podium picture.

Would really be nice to get some sort of confirmation on this from the people making the rules.
But whatever, I'm just going to do my best effort and let the chips fall where they may... If I'm good enough 👍 ... if not ... well; no regrets and nothing left on the table.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Are you eligible since you qualified for a season already? Seems a shame that you'd only get one shot. People can go to multiple American Idol try outs.

Without something in the rules saying I'm not, I would hope so. Although I'm already convinced I won't make it on speed anyway. In any case, there are several other old finalists competing, including Connor (who deserves to go to finals again) and if they don't amend their rule sheet they're going to have quite a mess on their hands...

 

[RAYzRAYz]

I need to find where this was stated, but the organizers are saying that also want to exclude all National Finalists from further participation as well. If it's true, you really gotta make this one count if you reach Nat's!

Wow, i would really want to know if this would be real. by the future years, all the fast people will be gone!

 

[Motor City Hami]

I work in marketing so if this were my program, the decision to let in previous finalists would come down to how much viewership we'd get of the actual TV show vs. the scale of the Nissan racing series press coverage. If all of the value is in the TV show, then sorry past contestants, but I'd want new faces and personalities. If I had to guess, Nissan is buying the TV time so that high cost would offset the value. Most of the value from this has to be in the free exposures in the press, on forums and in social media?

 

[dsgerbc]

Nissan is a vehicle manufacturer. It has to lead to car sales, ultimately. Personally, I don't see how people having second chances does any harm.

 

[VELOCI_2NR]

I work in marketing so if this were my program, the decision to let in previous finalists would come down to how much viewership we'd get of the actual TV show vs. the scale of the Nissan racing series press coverage. If all of the value is in the TV show, then sorry past contestants, but I'd want new faces and personalities. If I had to guess, Nissan is buying the TV time so that high cost would offset the value. Most of the value from this has to be in the free exposures in the press, on forums and in social media?

Not to bad mouth Nissan or GT Academy in anyway, but I noticed with the US GT Academy, all the effort is on the tv show with a little bit on the actual outcome. They'll get a good driver no matter what really, but its all about TV drama and stuff.

 

[Dr_Watson]

I just went through the current USA table and there's only 24 people in the top 50! that are age and nation eligible and have never been to a national final before.

 

[smeadows99]

I just went through the current USA table and there's only 24 people in the top 50! that are age and nation eligible and have never been to a national final before.

Ok I've never been to the finals. Every year I have came soo close to going and always been like number 34 overall in USA region. I am eligible and I just did 2:18.062 do you think this will be enough with the given estimate of ineligible drivers that can't go to the national finals. The first page shows 20 ppl not eligible to go so would that realistically bump me to top 32 or should I shoot for another tenth

 

[iamsupernasty]

Ok I've never been to the finals. Every year I have came soo close to going and always been like number 34 overall in USA region. I am eligible and I just did 2:18.062 do you think this will be enough with the given estimate of ineligible drivers that can't go to the national finals. The first page shows 20 ppl not eligible to go so would that realistically bump me to top 32 or should I shoot for another tenth

Go for as much more as you can. Never rest until you're locked in. You never now what can happen in the next 4 days.

 

[Dr_Watson]

Ok I've never been to the finals. Every year I have came soo close to going and always been like number 34 overall in USA region. I am eligible and I just did 2:18.062 do you think this will be enough with the given estimate of ineligible drivers that can't go to the national finals. The first page shows 20 ppl not eligible to go so would that realistically bump me to top 32 or should I shoot for another tenth

Realistically push til the end. At the rate I've been falling down the table I don't think anything > 17.6xx is *safe*. I've been just trying to maintain a rank in the 30's (I only had 1 week off work to throw at this I can't do the 28 day grind) as the real "bubble" spot is most likely ~40-42; but it really all depends on how the organizers want to classify eligibility at the 11th hour.

We're working under an assumption right now that Silverstone finalists will be excluded while national finalists will be eligible based on how 2011 vs 2012 was handled... but they could decide that they want all new faces, in which case the cut line goes down > p50.

There are a couple people in the top 30 that went to nationals in 2011 and 2012 and didn't make Silverstone either year so I wouldn't be shocked if they said "no more repeats" ... but it's all down to the organizers to do what they will. The only way to make yourself "safe" is to get into the top 35 since we know there's 2 Canadians and 2 under-age. Nothing else is a guarantee.

 

[Wardez]

There is another guarantee, we know for sure that all Silverstone finalists from 2012 are out, got direct confirmation. Everything else is a toss-up, yeah.

 

[CodeRedR51]

There is another guarantee, we know for sure that all Silverstone finalists from 2012 are out, got direct confirmation. Everything else is a toss-up, yeah.

They still need to put this in the written rules. In my opinion, "because we say so" verbally doesn't mean squat.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Realistically push til the end. At the rate I've been falling down the table I don't think anything > 17.6xx is *safe*.

Seeing how fast the times are coming down now, it's back to the grind for me.

 

[Dr_Watson]

Seeing how fast the times are coming down now, it's back to the grind for me.

says the guy in 5th place

 

[CodeRedR51]

says the guy in 5th place

Yeah, seriously. No prize for being number one, if it were me I would sit tight and just watch the rankings on the last day. At this point, if you have a 5th place time, it's highly unlikely you'll drop out of the top 31...

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Yeah, seriously. No prize for being number one, if it were me I would sit tight and just watch the rankings on the last day. At this point, if you have a 5th place time, it's highly unlikely you'll drop out of the top 31...

I'd like to get some insurance just in case, like a .5xx. The problem is that I have to warm up first. I'm not an alien that can run 17s after 5 minutes of play or even have that as a race pace.

 

[Going in Hot]

Yeah, seriously. No prize for being number one, if it were me I would sit tight and just watch the rankings on the last day. At this point, if you have a 5th place time, it's highly unlikely you'll drop out of the top 31...

I can't imagine a scenario where you'd drop out of the top 31, given the time that everyone has had there are one or two tenths out there for most people. Now sitting somewhere in the middle like me (14th) I know I need to find that .5 or .6 that I've been messing up in the last sector for days.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I'd like to get some insurance just in case, like a .5xx. The problem is that I have to warm up first. I'm not an alien that can run 17s after 5 minutes of play or even have that as a race pace.

I can't do it at all, stop complaining.

 

[Dr_Watson]

I'd like to get some insurance just in case, like a .5xx. The problem is that I have to warm up first. I'm not an alien that can run 17s after 5 minutes of play or even have that as a race pace.

well, here's some fun math for you to chew on

Percentile  High Water  Members
100.0%      2:17.142    1
99.9%       2:17.279    2
99.8%       2:17.416    3-4
99.7%       2:17.553    5-9
99.6%       2:17.691    10-15
99.5%       2:17.828    16-25
99.4%       2:17.965    26-39
99.3%       2:18.102    40-49
99.2%       2:18.239    50-61
99.1%       2:18.376    62-77
99.0%       2:18.513    78-90

*Members are the current positions on the USA regional list. 
Ex: 26-39 means positions 26 to 39 are covered by the given percentile.

Using the 2:17.142 #1 time as a benchmark representing 100%, this shows you that the top 90 times are < 1% slower than reude. Suggesting that anyone in the top 90 can move up to #1 by doing a few tenths of a percent better.

In your case you're running in the 99.6th percentile. So if you want to move into 1st place you only need to go 4 tenths of 1 percent faster. I however am in the 99.4th so I need to go a whopping 6 tenths of a percent faster.

 

[RAYzRAYz]

I just went through the current USA table and there's only 24 people in the top 50! that are age and nation eligible and have never been to a national final before.

Theres only 24 people elligible in the top 50? how did you get 26 inelligible drivers?

 

[Going in Hot]

well, here's some fun math for you to chew on

Percentile  High Water  Members
100.0%      2:17.142    1
99.9%       2:17.279    2
99.8%       2:17.416    3-4
99.7%       2:17.553    5-9
99.6%       2:17.691    10-15
99.5%       2:17.828    16-25
99.4%       2:17.965    26-39
99.3%       2:18.102    40-49
99.2%       2:18.239    50-61
99.1%       2:18.376    62-77
99.0%       2:18.513    78-90

*Members are the current positions on the USA regional list. 
Ex: 26-39 means positions 26 to 39 are covered by the given percentile.

Using the 2:17.142 #1 time as a benchmark representing 100%, this shows you that the top 90 times are < 1% slower than reude. Suggesting that anyone in the top 90 can move up to #1 by doing a few tenths of a percent better.

In your case you're running in the 99.6th percentile. So if you want to move into 1st place you only need to go 4 tenths of 1 percent faster. I however am in the 99.4th so I need to go a whopping 6 tenths of a percent faster.

That makes my head hurt.

 

[RAYzRAYz]

That makes my head hurt.

When you are taking the fastest time of each individual, each tenth is a huge amount of time.

% wise it is close, but it really isn't.

 

[Dr_Watson]

Theres only 24 people elligible in the top 50? how did you get 26 inelligible drivers?

Not what I said. Read it again.
There's only 24 eligible new drivers. Everyone else is ineligible or a repeat customer.

 

[Timppaq]

When you are taking the fastest time of each individual, each tenth is a huge amount of time.

% wise it is close, but it really isn't.

There was a time when I was little and watching F1 seeing someone .5 secs behind in qualifying seemed like nothing. But it is. The point here is the big difference how hard it is to gain time in relation to how easy it is to lose it. How many times you've (3rd) been ahead of your ghost and still lost by a mile?

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

I can't do it at all, stop complaining.

So says the kettle.

If the rules allowed, then you would be right up with me. We drive similarly; the main difference is some fortuitous trail braking.

In your case you're running in the 99.6th percentile. So if you want to move into 1st place you only need to go 4 tenths of 1 percent faster. I however am in the 99.4th so I need to go a whopping 6 tenths of a percent faster.

Yeah, I can't do 100%. Maybe two tenths more is feasible. My pace is hovering around the 99% mark which is good but I'm guessing a little off from my usual GT5 standard of roughly a second slower than the alien.