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It's an M3 Coupe. But it's called an M4. Really easy, we've had them for decades, and it pretty much fits in the same class.
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It's an M3 Coupe. But it's called an M4. Really easy, we've had them for decades, and it pretty much fits in the same class.
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Yup, same class it was in last generation. It's not an M3 coupe. The 3 series only comes in 4 door form now. The new generation has it's own completely seperate number system.
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Believe me, I know this. But for people that struggle to comprehend what a 4 series is, the easiest way to define it, is as a 3 series coupe -- something they will already be familiar with, and technically the 3 series comes in 4 door and 5 door... whilst the 4 series will come in 2 door and 4 door.
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Thanks, I didn't know they were giving it it's own marque separate of the M3, what's the point to do that, nothing was wrong when it was called an M3 coupe...
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No that's true.. but it's like this...
3 series
Saloon
Tourer
GT (5 door fastback)
LWB (China)
.. these are more practical and more utilitarian.
4 series
Coupe
Convertible
Gran Coupe (4 door coupe)
... these are more stylish, but less practical.. and crucially more expensive.
And if it's got an M in front of it... then its an M version 👍
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For consistency. See the 6-series as an example. Having a higher number than the car it's based on allows BMW to charge a premium compared to the sedan counterparts. Though in the case of the 4, it doesn't look nearly as different (from the 3) as the 6 does (from the 5).
Looks pretty much how we expected it to. The stripe on the roof is a nice touch, though it doesn't go too well with the revived puke yellow. Also feels weird not having the old-style multi-split-spoke rims, but as this is technically a new line, I guess there's no history to follow
. Anyways, I like it, and going by BMW's past M "concepts", not much will change before it hits the road.
Looks pretty much how we expected it to. The stripe on the roof is a nice touch, though it doesn't go too well with the revived puke yellow. Also feels weird not having the old-style multi-split-spoke rims, but as this is technically a new line, I guess there's no history to follow
. Anyways, I like it, and going by BMW's past M "concepts", not much will change before it hits the road.
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Thanks, I dont follow BMW too much cause I'm a fan of every other major German car, so thanks for the insight (I'm an Audi, Mercedes, Porsche guy). I will take note of this for the future, I guess they should have done this sooner when they rolled out the M6 for the M5
For consistency. See the 6-series as an example. Having a higher number than the car it's based on allows BMW to charge a premium compared to the sedan counterparts. Though in the case of the 4, it doesn't look nearly as different (from the 3) as the 6 does (from the 5).
Looks pretty much how we expected it to. The stripe on the roof is a nice touch, though it doesn't go too well with the revived puke yellow. Also feels weird not having the old-style multi-split-spoke rims, but as this is technically a new line, I guess there's no history to follow
Sad part is I was aware the 6 was the 5 in coupe and I didn't connect the dots with the M4
. Thanks guys for setting me straight, all this time I thought the M4 was going to be completely different.
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And Timo Glock has been driving it
posted this pic
posted this pic
CodeRedR51
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Might want to update the title to say 2014 or 2015. 
RocZX
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How is he driving it? It's not an real car, there no interior in it ( that is why all the windows are blacked out) and I don't think there even an engine in it.
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New info should be out tomorrow, but rumours suggest 425-435hp and a weight of 3300-3350lbs.
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Yepcompletely slipped my mind.
DTM drivers are on hand today to do test drives as today is the day when the press get to get behind the wheel of pre-production cars wearing FEP camouflage, rather than that sexy concept beast.
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I'm genuinely surprised at the manual sticking around. Hot damn.
Paired with the weight loss, this could be awesome, turbo engine responsiveness be damned!
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The turbos look like bagel bites. Tiny. Shouldn't be a problem. Looks like we're going to start seeing gobs of torque in the future thanks to what looks to be the start of large scale coolant-based intercoolers being used.
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From the bimmerpost link:
What the hell...I already thought engine blips where stupid on the C7. Heel and toe used to be a driver skill...I hate it when non-safety related electronics intervene in driving experience.
What the hell...I already thought engine blips where stupid on the C7. Heel and toe used to be a driver skill...I hate it when non-safety related electronics intervene in driving experience.
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Yeah, except people with midget feet like me always struggle unless the peddle box is very consideratly laid out...
Whats wrong with offering a better driving experience to a wider audience, most people can't be bothered with heel and toe all the time.
Plus, not all downshifts are done under braking.
Probably better for the drive-train too.
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I have never heard of the need to perform Heel and Toe under casual driving (most of these cars will be used off track only). If I want to go for performance with perfect shifts, I would buy the paddle shift automatic. What I believe is that an automatic blip takes away from the satisfaction of nailing the shift yourself, for me this is the only reason to buy the manual, I want the personal involvement. For people who don't care about this, there is the automatic.
I guess my first post came off a little harsh. But I find stuff like this as meddling in the wrong places and causing unnecessary development costs that swap over to retail. Why have the stick if the only other involvement over the automatic is disengaging the clutch?
I guess my first post came off a little harsh. But I find stuff like this as meddling in the wrong places and causing unnecessary development costs that swap over to retail. Why have the stick if the only other involvement over the automatic is disengaging the clutch?
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So, yeah, just turn it off if you want to nail shifts yourself...
Anyways, I'm quite impressed by the low weight. Being lighter than the last two M3s were, that's quite nice, isn't it? A bit surprised that the increase in power over the E92 isn't any bigger, but combined with the lower weight, I'd assume it to be quite the power house on the track.
And I'm willing to bet that single turbo conversions will become popular for the M4, much like they are/were with the twin-turbo straight six engines from Japan
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Honestly, being that much lighter than its Merc and Audi competitors, I'm completely fine with the power level. Though this just means they're first in the new model sweep; the C and A4 are both about to be replaced, and I imagine both will have a focus on weight too, as well as a move to turbo power.
E46 weight with E92 bhp, and E39 M5 torque? I'm cool with that!
E46 weight with E92 bhp, and E39 M5 torque? I'm cool with that!
