2014 Final Round - Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3 @ Spa-Francorchamps

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I love people thinking it won't carry over. If your fast without feeling the weight shift under you. You are most certainly fast in a real car.

I meant, I hope it carries over successfully for those reading. If I didn't think there was any relation, as a former RW racer, I wouldn't waste my time and hard earned money on it.

I personally think it would be a great idea for all parents w/ teenagers soon to get their drivers license to get them on GT 1st. And also put them in a go-kart.
 
Right... Took me ages to get this video processed by youtube... Just for you guys I cut my go short today managed to improve by a tenth but ye, cut it short so I could help you out with this :)!

Here's how to remove the ghost lines anyway;



I'll be having a proper go at weekend (When work stops tiring me out and I get a good 8 hour sleep, not 6!) as I'm struggling for time this week (Even at weekend as I'm at a BBQ saturday, and BTCC Sunday!). This does mean there will only be 1 guide, the detailed one which I'll push for Saturday for (Sorry Germany but at least you get a day and a bit of it!). I also still need to work out the fastest consistent way to do turn 1 and the fastest way to do the busstop chicane consistently, which is another reason why it's just the detailed one on Saturday!

Thanks so much for this!!
 
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I've been following your ghost and I was like "IM AHEAD OF DOODLE" a few corners later "oh, he's way up there now:grumpy:"
This is how I feel with Forgetful, the next guy for me to best...

I mean, it's almost unfair how much extra tricks you top guys know, even in just your shift points alone. I challenge you to watch my replay and find one true and honest mistake which isn't "this is faster in Gran Turismo because Gran Turismo physics."

And yet, I can manage a 0'37.007 on the first sector and lose it all before Pouhon. I really am doubting whether I can actually make it this year, already.

All of the top guys use those braking/downshift shenanigans to gain time, and I'm sitting here thinking "what would a real racing driver do?"

Blowing their motor at 200,000 RPM is a pretty low thing on that list, much farther down the list than forget to breathe, lose the ability to blink etc.

It just wouldn't happen, and that's not cool with me.
 
This is how I feel with Forgetful, the next guy for me to best...

I mean, it's almost unfair how much extra tricks you top guys know, even in just your shift points alone. I challenge you to watch my replay and find one true and honest mistake which isn't "this is faster in Gran Turismo because Gran Turismo physics."

And yet, I can manage a 0'37.007 on the first sector and lose it all before Pouhon. I really am doubting whether I can actually make it this year, already.

All of the top guys use those braking/downshift shenanigans to gain time, and I'm sitting here thinking "what would a real racing driver do?"

Blowing their motor at 200,000 RPM is a pretty low thing on that list, much farther down the list than forget to breathe, lose the ability to blink etc.

It just wouldn't happen, and that's not cool with me.

I am a pro-driver, iv won many national championships, and the biggest thing ill tell you man. While it may be a game and there are tricks that wont work in real life. Its a edge to find these things. you have to push beyond what you think is conventional. Only then will you get faster. You ant do the same thing over and over again and think you will gain time. so while it may kill the experience for you (which it does for me too), you have to suck it up and do these things. Also the downshifting things has nothing to do with bouncing the car off the limiter haha.
 
Hey i need some tips and drive option setup, I'm trying to be 2:21 and i got 2:25.497 so a little help would be much appreciated
 
This is how I feel with Forgetful, the next guy for me to best...

I mean, it's almost unfair how much extra tricks you top guys know, even in just your shift points alone. I challenge you to watch my replay and find one true and honest mistake which isn't "this is faster in Gran Turismo because Gran Turismo physics."

And yet, I can manage a 0'37.007 on the first sector and lose it all before Pouhon. I really am doubting whether I can actually make it this year, already.

All of the top guys use those braking/downshift shenanigans to gain time, and I'm sitting here thinking "what would a real racing driver do?"

Blowing their motor at 200,000 RPM is a pretty low thing on that list, much farther down the list than forget to breathe, lose the ability to blink etc.

It just wouldn't happen, and that's not cool with me.
You do what you have to do in order to make the cut. Once you do, though, the game is all but irrelevant. Real driving experience, physical fitness and fast adaptation is what matters and it's something I will continue stressing to anyone who may be going to Finals.
 
@R0T0RAU86 Not sure what you like about my post :confused:, unless you like seeing someone frustrated and beat down beyond belief. :rolleyes: I personally don't see anything to like there as I am trying my ass off and getting absolutely nowhere, you like that do you? :grumpy:

EDIT: Guess you do. :rolleyes: Guess you get off on other people's misery. :rolleyes:
 
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Started today, just some reconnaissance laps to get a feel for whats to come.
2.17.1, easily a second to gain there, and then maybe another second with alot of practice. But getting into the 2:14's? That I'm not sure I can do...:scared:
 
@R0T0RAU86 Not sure what you like about my post :confused:, unless you like seeing someone frustrated and beat down beyond belief. :rolleyes: I personally don't see anything to like there as I am trying my ass off and getting absolutely nowhere, you like that do you? :grumpy:


hahaha sorry man, i liked that it wasn't just me getting frustrated! Have a look back and see my rants :) first post on the last page! I feel ya bud, i am in the same boat! :)

edit: sorry page 6 :)
 
@GumballCGT nick, traction control 5????? Been awhile mate? Too busy doing the real thing! ;)

Crap! Was it really at 5? I was wondering why it was handling like crap. I couldn't get the car to slide or anything. It was so odd I could just smash the throttle out of a corner and have no issues. And when I went to slide a corner a little the throttle would just cut out. I checked it like two times even to make sure to put it at off. Guess there's some more time once I turn it off.

I was sitting there wondering if even when you turned traction completely off it would still leave a little on like how we can adjust our TC in the actual GT3 car. I will definitely pay attention to that next time I'm on.
 
Finally got a chance to try it out. Got a 2.19.8 after the 8th lap. This car loves to rotate! The tire grip is so much better too.

Just gotta figure out how to get on the throttle a little earlier without too much wheel spin.
 
@GumballCGT yeah was on 5, from the leader board anyways. I have noticed if you turn off TC then go watch a reply and come back it rests and turns itself back on.

hmm interesting, question is, is it faster having TC on 1? SpeedyReadie has TC1 and poped in a 14.9.. But then again you got the Immortal with a 14.5.. Without it... So fast...
 
Is it just me? Or is this challenge harder today than yesterday?

I'm a relative newbie to GT, and a mediocre driver (in the game) at best. But I woke up yesterday after 3.5 hours sleep, a roaring hangover, and no patience to try driving. But I was reading the forum and succumbed to temptation. After 3-4 red laps, I made my first clean pass and got silver. After about 4 more clean laps, I got gold. Nothing to brag about: 2:20.701. Based on my limited skills and the obvious mistakes I made, I figured I could do 2:18. Lacking energy and patience, I waited until today.

Today, after a full night's sleep, I loaded yesterday's ghost and went at it. I sucked so much today that I had to check to make sure I didn't load Immortal's latest replay by mistake! Today, my lackluster ghost from yesterday seem's like an alien!

For example, yesterday, I cut the throttle to 50% through Eau Rouge because I had a very difficult time running flat. Today, I practiced running flat in 6th throughout, and alternatively, hitting 5th at the middle corner as Immortal does. Either way, I could not come even close to my timid moves of yesterday--I would be 0.6 behind at the corner after the straight (sorry, I haven't memorized the names).

Usually my times improve after a couple glasses of wine--that did not help tonight. This challenge suddenly got much harder for me instead of easier with practice.

I've also noticed that the number of sub-2:15 people has not increased today. The number one position is about 0.1 faster, but I haven't noticed any new people in the :14.xx club.
 
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@GTP_CargoRatt : Chill out man! You'll get it eventually. don't take out your aggression on someone who is just supporting you.:)

Yea, you're right Elias, my apologies. I'm just way beyond frustrated right now because I can see I'm leaving at least a second and a half out there but just can't string it together. Losing most of my time from Campus on. The last chicane is also killing me.

@R0T0RAU86 My apologies there bud, the stress of competition is just getting to me. :(

@Jbaffoh The very thing you describe here seemingly happened to me today during my sessions. In the beginning, I was able to keep up with my ghost and even make substantial improvements in certain sectors. Then after one of my breaks, I came back and couldn't even come close to keeping up with my ghost. It was as if my car suddenly lost power or something, it was pretty weird to say the least. That very thing is the source of my recent frustration here. I was like, "what the 🤬 is wrong with my car." All settings have remained the same, ABS1, so nothing has changed there. I really don't know whats going on but it was enough to make me rage quit. :banghead:
 
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Yea, you're right Elias, my apologies. I'm just way beyond frustrated right now because I can see I'm leaving at least a second and a half out there but just can't string it together. Losing most of my time from Campus on. The last chicane is also killing me.

@R0T0RAU86 My apologies there bud, the stress of competition is just getting to me. :(

@Jbaffoh The very thing you describe here seemingly happened to me today during my sessions. In the beginning, I was able to keep up with my ghost and even make substantial improvements in certain sectors. Then after one of my breaks, I came back and couldn't even come close to keeping up with my ghost. It was as if my car suddenly lost power or something, it was pretty weird to say the least. That very thing is the source of my recent frustration here. I was like, "what the 🤬 is wrong with my car." All settings have remained the same, ABS1, so nothing has changed there. I really don't know whats going on but it was enough to make me rage quit. :banghead:
It does seem to have lost power. I don't think my approach has gotten so bad that I lose 0.6 minimum out of eau rouge every time. EVERY TIME! And, I'm making cleaner passes through it than yesterday.

Has anyone else sensed this?
 
@R0T0RAU86 Not sure what you like about my post :confused:, unless you like seeing someone frustrated and beat down beyond belief. :rolleyes: I personally don't see anything to like there as I am trying my ass off and getting absolutely nowhere, you like that do you? :grumpy:

EDIT: Guess you do. :rolleyes: Guess you get off on other people's misery. :rolleyes:
Relax mate, take the "like" title with a grain of salt. Just means he is as frustrated as you are.

I know you're frustrated but try calming down a bit before you attack someone on here.

As for the TT, there are still 12 days left bud. keep trying different things, check out other people's replays and keep working at it. You don't need to be the quickest today, plan to keep building and building up to the last few days. You'll get there bud, dont give up.
 
Time to update my little guide. Still steamed about my red 15.0x lap but it's a good feeling that I'm actually within reach of the alien gods with no handbrake and a wobbly DFPro with its busted paddle shifters and inability to stay attached to my desk for more than two laps. If you can beat my time, it's a good bet you'll be saying hello to the Big Apple. :)

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For reference, look at my 2:15.309 lap. I've actually had better efforts but that one had a great (for me anyways) bus stop.

La Source - Remember how fun it was trying to drift through the Loop for last year's Finals? Guess what? You have to do it again for this corner. Braking point's somewhere right after the road begins to rise. I didn't quite get it right during my run as I made the left front mad and my turn in was a bit late. Because the turn is so sharp, you have to drift more than what you think you need, which I didn't do either. I still made it work because I kept the car's speed up and managed to throttle up rather fast. You can get away mashing it if you anticipate the tail wag but you'll need the room on the exit. You don't need to aim for the outside at all - clearing the apex is all you need.

Eau Rouge - Another corner I didn't do great but had a good line on the exit. Line up the car so you can really cut left on the way out. I found that to be reliably faster.

Les Combes - The curbing on the first left will give you more rotation. Use it. Know when you can use full throttle and when you need to dip it for more front grip, especially on the final right. I have induced a power slide there a few times but on my run, I was a little more conservative.

Bruxelles - I start braking where the rumbles start on the left. That allows for a smoother line which aids in the exit. Typically, you want to jab the throttle a bit to get more rotation mid-corner. Didn't get it on my lap, so I went wider than I wanted to. I like to upshift early once I'm confident I won't undesteer off.

T11 - My usual screw up corner but I hit it rather well. Yes, you want to use the rumbles but not too much. It has a habit of holding my car on it for too long, screwing up my turn in.

Pouhon - I'm not a fan of the rumbles, really. There's a black... thing on the right which I use as my relative braking point. It's basically a slam the brake, turn in off throttle and go right to full throttle once I reach the cone exercise. Whatever your technique is, if you're having to play with the gas at all, then you're losing time.

Fagnes/Campus - Wait to turn until the last possible moment. It helps carry more speed in and better positions the car for the subsequent left. For that piece, this is where you want the rear to kick out just enough to start drifting. That way, you can upshift and still have it close to full throttle until you're comfortable going to full. Not the best effort on my lap because I powered down too far and over-rotated a bit.

Stavelot - I prefer turning in late to have a straighter wheel going out. Those curbs are evil if you're still fighting it when you touch them.

Paul Frere - It should be flat out if you're lined up right. Unfortunately, the curbing upset my car just enough that I had to flutter the gas to avoid rear wheelspin.

Blanchimont - My :dunce: corner. I know there's a line where you can go flat out with no problems. I can never find it so I have to use every bit of track. I turned in too late and missed the apex.

Bus Stop - I just don't know what went right. There's a part of the tree's shadow that I use as my braking point. 1st gear helps turning in as with a touch of trailbrake but it comes down to keeping speed up, not touching that first cone and avoid upsetting the car with wheelspin or whatever. I don't recommend using any of the inside curbing for the final bend. It causes too many headaches.
 
Two things here, 1st: After taking @R0T0RAU86 advice on the bus stop, I just gained .484 coming out of there alone!!! I was pretty much even with my ghost up until that point and doing what you suggested, I gained that amount of time in the bus stop alone. So thank you very much @R0T0RAU86 , your advice on that section has saved my ass. Thank you so much.

Now, to the second issue. @Jbaffoh After logging out and shutting things down as I thought I was done for the night, I decided to give it one more go after getting the advice above. Now, this may seem odd or maybe merely a coincidence, but the only thing I did differently this time was clear my cache, which took a long time I might add, about 4 minutes. Guess what was next...my car all of a sudden seemed back to normal, or even a little faster!!! All of a sudden, I was gaining large amounts of time in every sector, like between .200 - .400. I was finding time everywhere, just haven't been able to string it together yet in the few runs I've had so far. Its not my imagination either, like I said, the car seemed like it was lacking speed and I couldn't even keep up with my ghost. Now, its the complete opposite, gaining time everywhere. Now, I don't know, and its probably unlikely, if clearing my cache had anything to do with this, but it does seem coincidental. Kinda baffling to say the least. An hour ago the car seemed like a slug, now its like a rocket...compared to what it was anyway. I don't know what to think but there is something definitely different from an hour ago. :odd:
 
And yet, I can manage a 0'37.007 on the first sector and lose it all before Pouhon. I really am doubting whether I can actually make it this year, already.

Well there 0.25 left in sector 1 for you then.

It doesn't matter if you agree with what you have to do or not. The winner of the competition will get a job as a racing driver, I thought racing drivers done everything they can to go faster than the other guys.

I think if you ask all the fastest guys from GT Academy, they will agree with you, that you wouldn't do it in real life. But, like I said, this competition is about going as fast as possible. So basically, either man up and get on with it, or stop moaning about being beaten by people who use the tools available better than you.

Good effort though, you're going quicker than I would have guessed.
 
Well, after a pretty exhausting day and now after about 930 total miles, I'm down to 2'17.159...still miles off the pace. :( Tomorrow is another day however, so we'll see what it brings. Keep on digging everyone. :cheers:
 
I finally have a time, after about 100 laps of nothing I got a 2'20.8xx and then proceeded to get that down to 2'19.858 by the end of the session. I would really like to get into the 2'18's by competition end...we'll see how it goes 👍
 
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