he said ...
then he proceeded to say "Jr doesn't have as many wins because he's been racing 10 less years"...
Not sure what is funny but okay. And I've warned you to actually not misquote me but since you can not manage that oh well. Here is the full quote below.
Sure they do, Gordon won his race and has basically stayed at the top because of keeping his nose clean to run and finish in the top ten. His better driving team mates Johnson and Earnhardt Jr. are only behind him due to DNFs they have gained but have been more consistent at finishing toward the top than him. Harvick has been far faster and better than Gordon most of the season and "bad luck" as you called it has kept him out of it. Just like it took Brad forever to get where he was due to early season woes.
If you've been watching this year and read the post you'd see that it's obvious I was talking about this year. If you're trying to make me look bad on purpose as you've done with others since joining this thread, I'd advice against it.
As a moderator on a gaming website, I can tell you absolutely can:
-ask a mod to check someone's IP and provider if you think he is a previously banned user, or has multiple profiles
-have your username changed.
-not fake an IP or provider. @
Cale
I could be using proxies, but it would show my location as in the middle of nowhere, in Kansas very often. I live near Paris, France, and my provider -Orange- is the main one in the country, you can't fake that. I have nothing to hide.
Well you're not a mod on this site, so just because regular users can go up and ask you that, doesn't mean that the same ability can be extended here. Also no one said you have anything to hide, you somewhat post and miss the context on the same degree as an old user on here that took a bet he shouldn't have.
who cares about the number of YEARS???? Junior would need to win 68 of his next 220, an average of 11+ wins in 36 races for 6 plus years to be in the conversation with JJ & JG. It took him 14+ years to reach 21, do the math.
You've done this before:
If I was saying that he was good as Gordon ever, then I could see that but I didn't yet again you're trying to paint this as if I am. Either you're trolling or you have something to prove by misquoting me to make me look as if I have no idea. Others get what I'm saying you're the only one that doesn't. Also what do you mean who cares? Overall stats don't mean anything since their is usually more to the story than numbers.
It's like saying Senna or Schumi aren't possibly as good as Ascari because he has a better win rate, however he didn't race nearly as many as they did. Also he was from a time where money got you better drives, rather than just a drive now days, and the attrition rate was far greater plus other factors. So no I don't think Junior is better but I do see him getting back to his form from 2000-2006 which was highly competitive and I see it proving to be better than Gordon this year and last year. Overall Gordon is the better driver in history but there is more than wins or championships that indicate why.
A better comparison would be taking all the years Junior has driven compared to those years he faced Gordon, that is a better way to stack Empirical data.
already being intellectually dishonest (mischievous?)
One again how?
no, you're playing stupid for understanding "JJ not best of all time=JJ not a good driver", it doesn't.
Nor do I say that or imply that, what I'm saying is your notion that the chase creates hollow champions is a falsehood. The drivers get an equal shot at the chase in the first 26 and then they get a reasonable chance if the made it in to win. If Gordon came in first then it shouldn't be too hard to maintain or regain what put him there in the first place, if not that means someone did a better job than him this year. However, once again as @
MustangRyan put it why should a championship be set up in a way it could be decided with 12 races to go or 10 or 8.
As much as I liked Mansell, a
one time Champ, he's just not in Senna, Schumi and Prost class... and 4>1...
A 7 time champ -could have been 9 or 10 if not for FIA- in a fair system isn't the same as a 6 time champ in a Playoff, unfair system. All 4 Gordon titles are 'F1 style' titles, remember? (I think he'd have 6 with the old points system, no?
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And Grand National/Winston/Nextel/Sprint has always had a more unfair system than the FIA, it could be argued both have had bad systems. However this isn't the thread for that. Also are you that thick? So basically only people that have four championships can be compared to him? No, Gordon wasn't Prost good nor Senna good or Schumi good. They all were fast from start to finish and didn't fall of that map like Gordon. He has been hit and miss since the new millennium which is quite the same as Mansell who was a good driver could have won more championships like 91 or 85 and 86 had issues most beyond his control, yet there were other years where he just wasn't on it even with decent cars. So I think it's a good comparison to Gordon, unless you have someone better than isn't Schumi.
Also you're really splitting hairs here, so Gordon has basically been failed by the system and so have others because of the championship. I mean Johnson wouldn't have won nearly as many in pre chase format right? Even though he came close in 2003 and then did it again in the new system in 2004, yeah the guy wasn't bound to win a championship either way
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I would be quite happy if Junior wins his first title this year.
Good for you
And there would be no driver names.
You're right just numbers.
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