2014 Pirelli Hungarian Grand Prix

[otakukid96]

Well, a great potential podium ruined by Alonso.

 

[craigatm]

And sure enough, I've just read from a user on Autosport, that Lewis forced Rosberg of the track; just like in Bahrain. Very few people bat an eye over it, but you know they'd be calling for Nico's head if he did it. Still, it could have been an honest mistake from Hamilton. So I will wait to see the incident myself, before I make a final judgement. But after his antics in Bahrain, I think I already know what I am going to see.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

And that's why I stay away from the Autosport forums as much as possible. It's a hotbed of fanboyism and double standards.

Fantastic race!! Easily the best of the season.

It's weird, but despite the circuit's reputation for being dull and difficult to pass on, it's statistically the circuit most likely to produce an unexpected result.

 

[sems4arsenal]

And Lewis had trouble free race? And Nicos brake issues didnt contribute? And safety cars had no role in the pitstop strategy of Alo/Ric?

No he didn't, it did, again it did, not sure what's your point, Lewis had a very good race but got lucky, Ricciardo and Alonso were unlucky during the first safety car pit stop, both had almost perfect races and Alonso had almost no tyres at the end yet kept lewis behind.

Also Kimi started way back and finished near the top.

 

[Cobra_GT500]

The best race of the season no doubt. I was hoping Alonso could pull off with a win 2nd place is great with having no tyres. Hamilton looked sour on the podium I wonder what his problem was . Congrats to Dan for the win.

 

[20832]

It's weird, but despite the circuit's reputation for being dull and difficult to pass on, it's statistically the circuit most likely to produce an unexpected result.

It's curcuit like these, where especially the slower cars can neutralise their disadvantage in terms of lack of top speed. It's going to be very different in Spa, because you have very fast sections where they're going to use their 350kph top speed to their advantage and cars like RBR are at a a disadvantage because they drive more downforce and less top speed.

 

[Dhalism]

No he didn't, it did, again it did, not sure what's your point, Lewis had a very good race but got lucky, Ricciardo and Alonso were unlucky during the first safety car pit stop, both had almost perfect races and Alonso had almost no tyres at the end yet kept lewis behind.

Also Kimi started way back and finished near the top.

My point is that everyone was affected by safety cars and/or other issues, and with Vettel spinning and Nico having his issues Alo/Ric essentially made up 1 place. Good race by both sure, but nowhere near mindblowing.

And sure enough, I've just read from a user on Autosport, that Lewis forced Rosberg of the track; just like in Bahrain. Very few people bat an eye over it, but you know they'd be calling for Nico's head if he did it. Still, it could have been an honest mistake from Hamilton. So I will wait to see the incident myself, before I make a final judgement. But after his antics in Bahrain, I think I already know what I am going to see.

It looked borderline, so people wont be commenting until they see it again.

 

[jimipitbull]

 

[Chris123]

I find it ridiculous Rosberg was asking for Hamilton to let him past. He wasn't anywhere near Hamilton, he wasn't being held up. If Hamilton was to let him past even for the 1 second it would have cost him a podium. Pit lane to podium, enough said. An amazing pass on the Toro Rosso. Solid drive from Alonso, and Ricciardo once again proving he's a top driver, even with fresher tyres it's never going to be easy to overtake drivers of the calibre of Alonso and Hamilton. One of the best races of the season so far.

 

[HKS racer]

Well, a great potential podium ruined by Alonso.

What a silly unsportsmanlike comment. Alonso did a great race and managed to kept Mercedes behind with warned tyres. He went close to a win which is an insane result considering the car.

But the coolest thing of the race was how Raikkonen closed the door at Vettel. Really hope this is a comeback for Kimi.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Stop it with Ferrari is horrible nonsense. It's no Merc, but it's clearly tied for 2nd with all other competitive non merc cars.

How the heck do you figure that? I mean hell can't say anything about anything on here without some one being whiny because they potentially (or actually) don't like that team or driver. Analyze the race impartially and leave petty bias at the door.

The Ferrari is quite weak compared to the RBR I mean it's a bit of a redundant point to say "tied for second best among non-merc cars". Let's look at second best among non-merc cars. We have Sauber, STR, RBR, Lotus and Marussia and Caterham. Four of those teams hardly have the money to compete and another team wouldn't be allowed to be as fast so realistically Ferrari compared to the RB10 is hardly a match.

Try and justify your comments all you like, it's not as if Vettel was falling behind at 1 second per lap and was defending extremely aggressively. And again, you bring up my anti Hamilton bias, which had zero to do with this, whilst ignoring your own pro Hamilton bias. I would have responded in a similar vein if you had picked any other drivers and put them in the same situation. To suggest that someone should give up a place given the situation was ridiculous. They're racing drivers. If Hamilton wants to pass, he has to work for it. He sure makes it hard on others, even if his tires are destroyed.

And as for "blowing this up", I simply responded to a ridiculous comment with the kind of response it deserved.

Justify them how? You took a comment and claimed it was something it wasn't. I only bring up your bias because you've displayed rhetoric that would hint you still harbor a great amount. For example the fact that you said I was some fanboy by implying the comment sounded fanboyish...

So it's not to suggest, if you hadn't had say the fanboyish BS I would have conceded and now you're on the save face objective to say "I would have done it with any driver you said". It's a bit hard to believe now with what you've said. And yeah he did make it hard on Nico and it was stupid and could have wrecked Nico unlike you I can be impartial about racing discussion.

As for the last part no, it was just me saying or hoping for a strategy to keep Vettel up front since it almost did more than what he lucky got away with. If he had come in I think he would have had a chance for top five if not podium.

 

[Nooboogering]

And sure enough, I've just read from a user on Autosport, that Lewis forced Rosberg of the track; just like in Bahrain. Very few people bat an eye over it, but you know they'd be calling for Nico's head if he did it. Still, it could have been an honest mistake from Hamilton. So I will wait to see the incident myself, before I make a final judgement. But after his antics in Bahrain, I think I already know what I am going to see.

Yeah.
I would of done the same thing, nothing wrong with fighting is there?

 

[jtv90069]

And sure enough, I've just read from a user on Autosport, that Lewis forced Rosberg of the track; just like in Bahrain. Very few people bat an eye over it, but you know they'd be calling for Nico's head if he did it. Still, it could have been an honest mistake from Hamilton. So I will wait to see the incident myself, before I make a final judgement. But after his antics in Bahrain, I think I already know what I am going to see.

Well Rosberg did do it, just not to Hamilton. Going up the inside of one of the Williams into turn one, he used all of the track and forced the other driver off the track. I haven't heard it mentioned at all.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Well Rosberg did do it, just not to Hamilton. Going up the inside of one of the Williams into turn one, he used all of the track and forced the other driver off the track. I haven't heard it mentioned at all.

I thought it was more brilliant than what seemed to be desperation or spite when Lewis did it to defend.

EDIT:

Actually I'll give in just to make OctopusPine's witch hunt end. Yeah Nico should have never drove along side Bottas was a dirty underhanded guy he is, and did you hear his crying over the radio my goodness*

*Sarcasm

 

[ShiftingGears]

That race had everything. I'd go as far as to say it's the best race I've seen.

 

[NotThePrez]

And now begins the F1 summer break...

 

[Peasantslayer]

Great from Hamilton, he got within a few cars of Nico after the safety car but he passed and beat him on a weaker strategy.

Stunning race from Alonso to keep everything under control for so long on softs but Daniel was brilliant today and he was never going to stop him on fresher tyres.

 

[sems4arsenal]

My point is that everyone was affected by safety cars and/or other issues, and with Vettel spinning and Nico having his issues Alo/Ric essentially made up 1 place. Good race by both sure, but nowhere near mindblowing.

lets agree to disagree then, I think labeling both their races as just :good: is an understatement.

 

[Barra333]

Great drive by Ricciardo. He always seems to gain a spot or two in the pit lane shuffle, whileWebber often did the opposite somehow. Also, cracking pass on Hamilton.

As for Hamilton not letting Roseberg through, my first instinct was that Nico needed to be much closer before he was entitled to ask for the free pass.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

I was hoping before the race for Daniel to win to stop Nico Rosberg winning but later on the race with things developing well for Lewis, hoped he would win it. I think Mercedes should have done Soft, Soft instead of Hard tyres to the end and made use of the pace of car. I think they would at least finished ahead of Fernando that way. Anyway good job from Fernando and Daniel to make their strategies work for them, not a particularly good race for Lewis but it worked out quite well for him. Happy that he didn't let Nico through as he was the lead car and crazy to give gifts to his rival, it would be better if he pits for new tyres than let him through.

 

[Peasantslayer]

Great drive by Ricciardo. He always seems to gain a spot or two in the pit lane shuffle, whileWebber often did the opposite somehow. Also, cracking pass on Hamilton.

As for Hamilton not letting Roseberg through, my first instinct was that Nico needed to be much closer before he was entitled to ask for the free pass.

He was about a second off on the straights, if he got within a few tenths fair enough.

 

[Dhalism]

How the heck do you figure that? I mean hell can't say anything about anything on here without some one being whiny because they potentially (or actually) don't like that team or driver. Analyze the race impartially and leave petty bias at the door.

Cause they've been competitive since the start of the season? Yes sure race by race they struggled less or more, but so has every other team.

The Ferrari is quite weak compared to the RBR I mean it's a bit of a redundant point to say "tied for second best among non-merc cars". Let's look at second best among non-merc cars. We have Sauber, STR, RBR, Lotus and Marussia and Caterham. Four of those teams hardly have the money to compete and another team wouldn't be allowed to be as fast so realistically Ferrari compared to the RB10 is hardly a match.

There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Ferrari is weak compared to RBR. And i am not talking about non-merc powered cars. Williams had their ups and downs too. They looked to be 2nd best before today, but today they really looked not up to the task. Race by race it differs as i said, but throughout the season all cars are performing pretty equal, as their WCC points would suggest.

 

[Iceman220]

Well Rosberg did do it, just not to Hamilton. Going up the inside of one of the Williams into turn one, he used all of the track and forced the other driver off the track. I haven't heard it mentioned at all.

Bottas I guess

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

And sure enough, I've just read from a user on Autosport, that Lewis forced Rosberg of the track; just like in Bahrain. Very few people bat an eye over it, but you know they'd be calling for Nico's head if he did it. Still, it could have been an honest mistake from Hamilton. So I will wait to see the incident myself, before I make a final judgement. But after his antics in Bahrain, I think I already know what I am going to see.

This crap needs to stop, Rosberg forced Bottas way off the track on turn one, nothing is being said about it.

Not every single incident needs to be judged, criticised, scrutinised and punished, just let the racers do some racing. That's what people come to watch, not steward's inquiries, letting people past and pit stop penalties.

 

[20832]

Great drive by Ricciardo. He always seems to gain a spot or two in the pit lane shuffle, whileWebber often did the opposite somehow. Also, cracking pass on Hamilton.

As for Hamilton not letting Roseberg through, my first instinct was that Nico needed to be much closer before he was entitled to ask for the free pass.

I guess RBR is giving Ricciardo the advantage because he was on the better position, but in general has the better car or seems to like the car a lot more than Vettel. So I'd rather see DR gain places via pit strategy than Seb.

And I fully agree on the Hamilton point.

 

[craigatm]

Well Rosberg did do it, just not to Hamilton. Going up the inside of one of the Williams into turn one, he used all of the track and forced the other driver off the track. I haven't heard it mentioned at all.

Well then if you ask me, they've both earnt a visit to the stewards! Alonso made the point a few years back, the drivers should really should not force each other off the circuit; seeing as it's unfair. And for a while his words appeared to have had an impact; and then after a while longer, everybody just forgot about it. Hard racing is fine in my book, but not when it's unfair.

 

[HKS racer]

Well Rosberg did do it, just not to Hamilton. Going up the inside of one of the Williams into turn one, he used all of the track and forced the other driver off the track. I haven't heard it mentioned at all.

Yes it's true but I don't think this behavior has to be sanctioned whatever the driver is.

 

[Cobra_GT500]

Ha and Maldonado still managers to run into people I think he's a danger to the racing field.

 

[Peasantslayer]

Well then if you ask me, they've both earnt a visit to the stewards! Alonso made the point a few years back, the drivers should really should not force each other off the circuit; seeing as it's unfair. And for a while his words appeared to have had an impact; and then after a while longer, everybody just forgot about it. Hard racing is fine in my book, but not when it's unfair.

If it doesn't cost the other guy a massive amount of time and no contact is made then deal with it.

 

[mister dog]

That race had everything. I'd go as far as to say it's the best race I've seen.

On par with Suzuka 2005 at least in recent memory