2015 Dodge Charger ( 707HP Charger Hellcat - World's Most Powerful Sedan!)
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- GTP_Leonidae_MFT
I have a reply to the "707bhp, that's all I have to say"-crew..
"The curb weight is 4,560 pounds." And the Challenger version is barely 100lbs lighter. Doesn't sound so sporty anymore..
"The curb weight is 4,560 pounds." And the Challenger version is barely 100lbs lighter. Doesn't sound so sporty anymore..
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- HamiltonMP427
What fanboys? Your comments are off base
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The interior looks awful thanks to those seats, imo. Black leather with red felt/alcantara(?) material on the inset looks tacky as hell.
As for the car, it's cool to brag about 707Hp in a sedan, but I stand by my comments before; Porsche (& Cadillac) has already come & conquered the performance sedan market.
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- Bandhead4life
There is no more Charger Super Bee, the Charger R/T Scat Pack is Official and is taking its place
http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php...2015-super-bee
Good Luck Chevy SS
http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php...2015-super-bee
Good Luck Chevy SS
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- HamiltonMP427
Good thing it doesn't need luck and even with less power will probably out perform the new R/T so not sure what your point is, since the SS is still basically in it's on grouping.
Also looking at the interior some more I can see how people don't like it, the leather does seem to clash with the alacantra if that is what it is. I'd think two tone of the same material would have been better.
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- HamiltonMP427
The hood scoop looks nice on the charger, but not the challenger, and it's probably due to being use to it before they updated them without it for the past couple years.
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- slashfan7964
Why does block material matter if it's a high performance engine or not? Sure there are the obvious benefits like weight and all that, but then there's also strength that needs to be taken into consideration. I find that to be a load of crap, IMO.
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What is the point of a high performance engine that's so heavy it slows you down? Even if you're only going in a straight line, that weight will matter. As for strength, aluminum Viper and Corvette engines have been surviving with up to 1000 HP for years. They used iron because it's cheap probably.
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And the SS has also only been out less than a year. 
Edit* They were averaging 300/month March through May which is actually ok since that's when sales typically pick up after the new year. July being low is normal; summer months are when dealerships stop ordering inventory in wait for the next MY. August-September is when sales will slowly pick back up as dealers start working to make deals on older vehicles & by Oct-Dec., sales should back to where they were, probably even more now that the production has had a full year.
In comparison, Dodge sold 5539 Chargers, but you'll have to show proof that Dodge sold 250+ SRT8s of that to make such a bold claim.
Edit* They were averaging 300/month March through May which is actually ok since that's when sales typically pick up after the new year. July being low is normal; summer months are when dealerships stop ordering inventory in wait for the next MY. August-September is when sales will slowly pick back up as dealers start working to make deals on older vehicles & by Oct-Dec., sales should back to where they were, probably even more now that the production has had a full year.
In comparison, Dodge sold 5539 Chargers, but you'll have to show proof that Dodge sold 250+ SRT8s of that to make such a bold claim.
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I don't get how when your pet Mopars can't keep up with the competition in terms of performance or generally being a good car, you turn to sales as some form of quality metric.
I don't care how much of a car is sold each year. I care if it's a good car.
Edit: I have a theory. Are car sales like a team sport for you? Like instead of talking about World Series wins for the Yankees do you talk about the quarterly salesreports for Dodge in the mid-size sports sedan market?
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Because that's all they brought over really...you know let me just pause for a moment before I continue. I must say it's quite irritating when you try to create parallels or comparisons out of your rear or thin air to defend a brand that really couldn't give two craps if you existed, I mean really how much have you invested into Chrysler/Mopar? I'm a Corvette/GM guy most days and love Mopar too and there are others here with preference but we don't ever go to bat for these cars unless they actually do a great job, and if not then we call them out for it.
My point with all that, if you actually stepped away form the Chrysler headlines and read about the SS you'd know that it is a limited edition car for the U.S., that as I said in another thread is only to be given to dealerships that have sold other upper levels of GM cars (Corvette and Camaro). The car isn't to be sent here to compete against the mass numbers of others that are similar to it (though I don't know of any) and GM has said that the car has met it's sales.
Also that's before we even talk about the MT that people want and the Magnetic suspension in the ZR1/ZL1
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/04/26/...agnetic-ride-suspension-report/?icid=autoblog
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/06/chevy-to-limit-ss-sport-sedan-dealer-allocations/
http://www.kbb.com/car-news/all-the...t-ss-stopgap-or-jumping-off-point/2000010802/
Next time research before you just randomly compare.
If it's truely a high performance engine then a lighter and just as durable block with other great metallurgical properties over iron would bet better. The aluminum blocks of today and several years now are quite strong and on equal grounds to Iron, this old world thinking of the 70s and 80s and even early 90s that "real men use Iron blocks" isn't correct and just shows how little people tend to know. (not say you Slash just in general since this idea is still perpetuated)
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This.
I am mainly a Mopar/Nismo guy but I'm not afraid to call out things that I think need to change. Brand loyalty and blind defense is very stupid to me. I like the designs of much of the current Dodges out there but the underpinnings just aren't comparable to their competition in some vehicles (Challenger I'm looking at you). A few Nissans are currently very bland in my eyes. I accept it, shake my head a few times, make a few criticisms and move on. Just because you like something doesn't mean you need to defend it to the edge of the earth.
The way you talk is like you are near the head of the company. I know dealers that pedal less blind optimism and they profit from talking up their product. I'll never understand how you (@psntomaz) and people like you can swear on a brand as it has little to no faults even in the face of many facts. (Not just in this thread). You are not alone though I know a few Ford and GM diehards too.
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