2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

[Slash]

As is this.

Yeah... originality isn't always pretty

I still think they are sexy after getting much acquainted with them in person lol. Pics make them look awful.

 

[Team THRT Drift]

The Fish?!

EDIT

Oh you mean the II's

 

[Omnis]

As is this.

Yeah... originality isn't always pretty

Seriously? That van is awesome. Wish they went into production.

 

[Team THRT Drift]

A van that runs on sheep wee-wee (May, James, Top Gear).

 

[RocZX]

Info on the Saleen S302 Mustang

To be supercharged to 640hp and 565lb-ft for the Yellow and Black Label

 

[Blackbird.]

How much do you think?

 

[McLaren]

How much do you think?

Well, for reference, here's the current crop for sale.
http://saleen.com/302.html

And here's what a Naples dealer has been selling their cars for.

Mustang Black Label S302 ($99,645): http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/ve...-door-coupe-ac97c5deb8e34ed184cf6e0f1bd90855/
Mustang Black Label S302 Conv. ($114,635): http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/ve...convertible-2aaf8af970ab4618a529f3b647f9bfe7/
Challenger SA30 ($99,645): http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/ve...-door-coupe-53c07c552631489eb44fbbc9d1d84ec2/
Camaro SA30 ($99,645): http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/ve...-door-coupe-d65ed4ad3c284bd5a7d0b7c96b22d110/
Camaro Black Label 620 ($97,995): http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/ve...-door-coupe-8ddd08edf7f34e8896ef889f995215e6/

 

[Omnis]

Hunnid grand for a Mustang? They're insane.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

100k for a Mustang? bwhahahahahaha

 

[Omnis]

That light red color looks UH-MAZING.

 

[McLaren]

100k for a Mustang? bwhahahahahaha

Crazy. I'd love to see how the Black Label 302 holds up against the GT500. Both 600+Hp, same "price" at $55,000.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

That light red color looks UH-MAZING.

I love the soundtrack of that car.

 

[Blackbird.]

Well, for reference, here's the current crop for sale.
http://saleen.com/302.html

And here's what a Naples dealer has been selling their cars for.

Mustang Black Label S302 ($99,645): http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/ve...-door-coupe-ac97c5deb8e34ed184cf6e0f1bd90855/
Mustang Black Label S302 Conv. ($114,635): http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/ve...convertible-2aaf8af970ab4618a529f3b647f9bfe7/
Challenger SA30 ($99,645): http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/ve...-door-coupe-53c07c552631489eb44fbbc9d1d84ec2/
Camaro SA30 ($99,645): http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/ve...-door-coupe-d65ed4ad3c284bd5a7d0b7c96b22d110/
Camaro Black Label 620 ($97,995): http://www.naplesmotorsports.com/ve...-door-coupe-8ddd08edf7f34e8896ef889f995215e6/

Ouch that's pretty steep.

 

[Omnis]

I've been reading about preliminary tunes on the EB23. Some are claiming 400rwtq is a strong possibility. Apparently a lot of the hardware (intercooler etc) is already very accommodating. You'd just need to change out the piping and some other things.

I'll believe it when I see it, but it sure makes you wonder about whether it's worth almost 20 grand more for the V8. I wonder what those tunes do to fuel economy.

 

[VXR]

The Ecoboost sounds OK for what it is. but you can get that sound in almost any turbocharged car here in Europe, either stock or exhaust work. The V8 soundtrack has never been a daily occurrence in my lifetime and just sounds so much more in keeping with that class of car. Basically with a turbo four, blindfold I'd not know what type of car it was from the sound alone. Just a four in what could easily be a saloon.

I get that it's a break from the norm for American audiences, but you should be embracing the V8 before it's legislated out of production or at the very least dropped due to customer attitudes favouring tedious things like gas mileage and emissions. Plenty of cars can get good figures in that regard, Muscle and Pony cars shouldn't be concerned with such things.

 

[Omnis]

Don't really care about the sound. 300hp is plenty. The writers are already saying that the car feels better with the lighter engine up front. The weight balance is better with the EB23 and they're saying it pushes less as a result. That's great.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Crazy. I'd love to see how the Black Label 302 holds up against the GT500. Both 600+Hp, same "price" at $55,000.

Actually, I'm curious about that aswell. There should be a comparison like that somewhere on youtube.

 

[88GTA]

Motor Trend has released reviews of both the GT and 2.3EB models:
GT Article
2.3EB Article

The writers are already saying that the car feels better with the lighter engine up front. The weight balance is better with the EB23 and they're saying it pushes less as a result. That's great.

From the 2.3EB article:

Considering the lack of weight on the nose, we expected a bit more nimbleness than this Mustang offered. It stops authoritatively and allows aggressive corner entry. Exits are fun, too; the car digs out of corners with a nice amount of stability. But mid-corner behavior is disappointing -- the car's attitude feels somewhat soft and soggy, offering a mild understeer that's difficult to adjust. Where the GT likes being adjusted with the throttle -- the instant-on V-8 torque allows you to counter the chassis' tendency to push -- the turbo doesn't allow this option. Our figure eight exacerbates this mid-corner behavior.

2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost: ​

BASE PRICE - $25,995
PRICE AS TESTED - $37,660
VEHICLE LAYOUT - Front-engine, RWD, 4-pass, 2-door coupe
ENGINE - 2.3L/310-hp/320-lb-ft turbo DOHC 16-valve I-4
TRANSMISSION - 6-speed automatic
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) - 3658 lb (53/47%)
WHEELBASE - 107.1 in
LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT - 188.3 x 75.4 x 54.4 in
0-60 MPH - 5.6 sec
QUARTER MILE - 14.1 sec @ 97.8 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH - 106 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION - 0.96 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT - 25.5 sec @ 0.80 g (avg)
EPA CITY/HWY/COMB FUEL ECON - 21/32/25 mpg
ENERGY CONS., CITY/HWY - 160/105 kW-hrs/100 miles
CO2 EMISSIONS, COMB - 0.78 lb/mile

2015 Ford Mustang GT: ​

BASE PRICE -$32,925
PRICE AS TESTED - $46,380
VEHICLE LAYOUT - Front-engine, RWD, 4-pass, 2-door coupe
ENGINE - 5.0L/435-hp/400-lb-ft DOHC 32-valve V-8
TRANSMISSION - 6-speed manual
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) - 3814 lb (54/46%)
WHEELBASE - 107.1 in
LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT - 188.3 x 75.4 x 54.9 in
0-60 MPH - 4.4 sec
QUARTER MILE - 12.8 sec @ 112.2 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH - 107 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION - 0.96 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT - 24.7 sec @ 0.84 g (avg)
EPA CITY/HWY/COMB FUEL ECON - 15/25/19 mpg
ENERGY CONS., CITY/HWY - 225/135 kW-hrs/100 miles
CO2 EMISSIONS, COMB - 1.06 lb/mile

 

[Badasp5.0]

Ouch that's pretty steep.

Steep prices are the Saleen Way. I remember in the mid to late '90s seeing Saleen S351s in the showroom with sticker prices of $65k

 

[Blackbird.]

Steep prices are the Saleen Way. I remember in the mid to late '90s seeing Saleen S351s in the showroom with sticker prices of $65k

Well all those were damn near $100k, but it seems it's because they were special editions. On Saleen's page they're a little better at around $55k assuming that's what they actually go for. But the current look i'm not digging, the 2015 sketch doesn't look bad. I'd like to see the whole thing though.

 

[Badasp5.0]

Well all those were damn near $100k, but it seems it's because they were special editions. On Saleen's page they're a little better at around $55k assuming that's what they actually go for. But the current look i'm not digging, the 2015 sketch doesn't look bad. I'd like to see the whole thing though.

Very true. Those are Saleen Anniv cars (Their model starts with SA and has the anniv year following) which are very rare and have the price to match. I cannot wait to see a '15 Saleen in white with blue graphics that is my all time favorite color scheme.

 

[Omnis]

That seems to be the opposite of what a long time Edmunds editor said in the TFL video

 

[Slash]

Directly from Ford Racing's official page on Facebook. Apparently this is what "a few mods" can do to the Ecoboost 2.3L car. There is a video incoming at some point.

 

[Zenith]

Directly from Ford Racing's official page on Facebook. Apparently this is what "a few mods" can do to the Ecoboost 2.3L car. There is a video incoming at some point.

People who market Mustangs really have a collective boner for wheel stands. Anyone remember that Shelby 1000 photo?

 

[Slash]

People who market Mustangs really have a collective boner for wheel stands. Anyone remember that Shelby 1000 photo?

This is a shot from one of the videos they are going to put up. I highly doubt it's faked.

 

[Zenith]

This is a shot from one of the videos they are going to put up. I highly doubt it's faked.

Neat. I never said it was.

 

[Blackbird.]

Mm, mm. That front end and the painted rear "diffuser" is the only thing that's making me look at this car weird. I want to like it completely so bad.

 

[Slash]

Neat. I never said it was.

The way your post came off made it sound as if you were skeptical.

Mm, mm. That front end and the painted rear "diffuser" is the only thing that's making me look at this car weird. I want to like it completely so bad.

Yeah I'm really not digging the front end. It wouldn't be bad if the nose wasn't so bloated. Hopefully the facelift fixes that.

 

[RocZX]

The EcoBoost has a fake engine noise http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-ford-mustang-ecoboost-fakes-its-engine-noise-1638853878

 

[Omnis]

Good and bad. I thought the engine noise was droney and annoying.