2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion
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gamerdog6482
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Now THAT is a Mustang!
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Looks like an anteater
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Whatever Ford does with the Mustang's design, they better keep the European influences (actually, blatant stealing of design) away. I want a Ford to look like a Ford, and Aston to look like an Aston.
I hope Ford isn't Europeanizing (is that a word?) the Mustang because they will sell it in Europe. If they are, they are doing it wrong because the Mustang is one of the few American cars known and loved in Europe, and that's because of what it is. If they make it too European, it becomes less interesting to European buyers while not being American enough for American buyers.
Please make it look good, Ford.
I hope Ford isn't Europeanizing (is that a word?) the Mustang because they will sell it in Europe. If they are, they are doing it wrong because the Mustang is one of the few American cars known and loved in Europe, and that's because of what it is. If they make it too European, it becomes less interesting to European buyers while not being American enough for American buyers.
Please make it look good, Ford.
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Actually when the first Mustang was modelled it was more european than american in my mind and the look was to be more european to the Project Design Chief designer Joe Oros as well. Making the car have european tendencies is not a bad thing. Going by that yellow Stang it looks nothing like an Aston and I think it is mostly the colour and half C-stripe that are making it look horrid.
A quote from Oros "I said it should be as sporty as possible and look like it was related to European design."
In my mind the last picture posted doesn't look european (not necessarily american either) but has a few european hints here and there, like most cars nowadays do.
A quote from Oros "I said it should be as sporty as possible and look like it was related to European design."
In my mind the last picture posted doesn't look european (not necessarily american either) but has a few european hints here and there, like most cars nowadays do.
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You're right about the last picture, that doesn't look much different from current gen, I was talking about the red car renders from the last page. And I don't think some European influence is bad, but that render (the red car) looks way to much like an Aston/Jaguar or some euro sports car IMO.
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They need to look at what Porsche did to the 911 and do something similar
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No. Just no.
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Put the engine in the trunk? I don't think that would be a good idea for the Mustang.
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Especially for the 50th anniversary.
gamerdog6482
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Can you imagine?
That would be terrible!
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That would be terrible!
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Sorry I meant in terms of looks
gamerdog6482
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I don't think that a Ford Mustang that looks like a Porsche 911 would be well accepted.
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Although they kind of did what you are talking about with the Gen5, although the 911 never really changed that much.
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I don't think that a Ford Mustang that looks like a Porsche 911 would be well accepted.
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Although they kind of did what you are talking about with the Gen5, although the 911 never really changed that much.
Sigh,
Exactly, the 911 is instantly recognisable to everyone but at the same time its modern. A similar strategy would work for the Mustang I reckon.
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Isn't that what they did with the Gen5 Mustang?
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Instantly recgonizable as a Porsche but knowing it's a 911 is another thing. That's like taking the Mustang and putting Ford's well known styling cues to it, but people not knowing it's a Mustang because it doesn't look like one. It wears Ford badges and looks like some kind of new car from Ford, but people wouldn't know it was a 'Stang.
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I feel like they're already doing that, at least for the past few years. Ever since the 2010 facelift, there's been a gentle massaging each year:
- 2010 - New look, very slightly updated engines.
- 2011 - Completely overhauled engines, 3.7L V6, 5.0L V8, aluminum block for the GT500.
- 2012 - Hello Boss (including LS package).
- 2013 - Styling tweaks, detail changes to normal engines, bonkers GT500 one.
And that's ignoring the numerous different GT500 specials, the drag car, track racer, GTH, etc etc. It isn't quite 911 levels of proliferation (or Aston, for that matter), but it's enough to make each year unique, which I think is a really excellent path to be travelling. I'm fine with them aping the 911's progression just fine; the "lol 911 still looks like 911" attitude bores me.
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It's pretty easy to make a 911 look like a 911 when its defining shape is dictated by the engine layout. Try applying that shape to a front-engined car and you get the Panamera, which is arguably a terrible design.
Besides, the 'classic' 911 is an aerodynamic lump with round headlighta. The 'classic' Mustang has the aerodynamics of a barn door. A big no-no for a modern sports car. Previous generation Mustangs were infamous for hood flapping at high speed.
I like the way Ford did the current gen. Kept e classic look but modernized it. Still, you can only go so far with that. A fresh approach wouldn't hurt. A more aerodynamic GT500, for one, would make better use of that epic power.
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Not 100% related to the new Mustang but here is an interesing tidbit....Ford Racing is producing a Mustang Cobra Jet Twin Turbo...
Ford says the turbos can both spin up to 150,000rpm almost instantly.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/cars/...1ff7b8-22b8-11e2-92f8-7f9c4daf276a_story.html
Ford says the turbos can both spin up to 150,000rpm almost instantly.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/cars/...1ff7b8-22b8-11e2-92f8-7f9c4daf276a_story.html
CodeRedR51
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It's not actually in production yet, but yeah. This is the car they were teasing for the last couple weeks.
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Yeah I was gonna add that as well. I wonder how fast this one will go...
Considering the 1/4 world record for the one out now is 7.848 @ 174mph I'm scared to see what this twin turbo one does...
Heres the video if anyone calls BS. They ran it several times.
http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2012/...obra-jet-world-record-with-7-848-14-mile-run/
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New Mustang rumored to be revealed on April 17th, 2014. Or exactly 50 years after the original release. Also rumored to be getting a 2.4L/2.3L EcoBoost 4 cylinder. Asain markets are supposedly supposed to get a naturally aspirated 4 cylinder. Returns to 34mpg are also likely.
Personally, my horsepower hopes are targeted around these figures without reducing fuel economy. These might be a little optimistic, and they may drop. We won't know until it happens.
Base 4 cyl - 250hp
6 cyl or Turbo 4 cyl - 320hp for 6cyl, 310hp for Turbo 4 cyl
GT/5.0) - Unchanged, 412hp
Boss (Assuming some variation is continued) - 450hp
GT500 (Assuming some variation is continued) - 675hp
Cobra Jet - 500
Cobra Jet Twin Turb (Assuming it's built) - 550
Personally, my horsepower hopes are targeted around these figures without reducing fuel economy. These might be a little optimistic, and they may drop. We won't know until it happens.
Base 4 cyl - 250hp
6 cyl or Turbo 4 cyl - 320hp for 6cyl, 310hp for Turbo 4 cyl
GT/5.0) - Unchanged, 412hp
Boss (Assuming some variation is continued) - 450hp
GT500 (Assuming some variation is continued) - 675hp
Cobra Jet - 500
Cobra Jet Twin Turb (Assuming it's built) - 550
CodeRedR51
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I'm thinking closer to this:
Base 4 cyl Turbo - 280hp
6 cyl - 320hp
GT/5.0) - 425hp
Boss (Assuming some variation is continued) - same engine as current, + ~15hp or so
GT500 (Assuming some variation is continued) - same as 2013
Base 4 cyl Turbo - 280hp
6 cyl - 320hp
GT/5.0) - 425hp
Boss (Assuming some variation is continued) - same engine as current, + ~15hp or so
GT500 (Assuming some variation is continued) - same as 2013
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I didn't want to make them too high, but I do like those numbers. 280hp isn't bad for a 4 cyl. In fact that's pretty damn good.
CodeRedR51
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Most of the turbo hot-hatches make close to that or more than that right now. I don't see why they couldn't do it.
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I'm thinking a base model non-turbo four or low pressure turbo four with around 200 hp, the uprated version with 275 hp, and then things scaling up fron there. They could bump the V8 to 450 with direct injection, then insert a turbo six at 350-400 hp.
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What badging would the turbo six wear? Mustang GT?
