2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

[McLaren]

Then Ford is contradicting themselves.

http://www.themustangnews.com/conte...s-of-modifications-to-2011-2012-5-0-mustangs/

Everything in that article is nothing but common sense if you have ever bought a new car before.

It's not a secret modifying your car can void the warranty on that specific part. It's not a secret that if said modification causes the issue, you're out of warranty. It's not a secret that power mods can lead to premature wear.

Nothing in your link is Ford contradicting themselves if you read the key words, "shade tree mechanic". There's 2 parts to that; 1 being that Ford & well known tuners obviously aren't "shade tree mechanics", so the parts they offer are designed to offer more performance without any serious risk. The 2nd part is the owner having an understanding of the engine's limits & knowing that the installation of certain mods will need other mods to support the aforementioned mod. If the block is maxed out, obviously trying to run certain modifications will be risky. If a supporting mod is installed, however, the block's limits are expanded.

What you also posted is a TSB that every single manufacturer sends out on new cars. My BMW has one as does my Acura as does the new GS, LS, & IS booklets we have been trained on through my work.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Hmm, what do we have here...

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/04/12/first-ford-mustang-prototype-shots-caught-by-legendary-spyshoote/

Looks like it's a car with no body panels at all and they're only trying to mask the internal structure.

 

[White & Nerdy]

So, we're actually going to build a 4cyl Mustang again.

Must not make wisecrack about bronies...

 

[Slash]

Nothing to see?

 

[DeathSmiles]

They have been testing the underpinnings for awhile now. Autoblog just wasn't aware of it because they used slightly disguired 2013 models for the older test.

The car's design has been set in stone for several years now.

 

[CodeRedR51]

And you know this how?

 

[RACECAR]

Haven't really kept up with this, but has anyone been able to sneak any peaks at the car or do all we have is those Renders?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The Corvette's LT1 V8 is significantly smaller than the BMW 4.4 litre turbo V8, so displacement doesn't necessarily dictate size and weight. That said, the LT1 has a very low specific output. The Coyote V8 is quite impressive, especially in its head design. Upgrading it is all the Mustang needs in terms of power. What it really needs is more refinement.

Finally some rational speaking...oh you sir are good.

Then Ford is contradicting themselves.

http://www.themustangnews.com/conte...s-of-modifications-to-2011-2012-5-0-mustangs/

Wouldn't be the first manufacture to lie outright to the people for various reasons.

I'd hope that you knew not to trust the source as fact.

 

[Slash]

Haven't really kept up with this, but has anyone been able to sneak any peaks at the car or do all we have is those Renders?

Supposedly a few people saw the car in person but other than that the renders are all we have.

Finally some rational speaking...oh you sir are good.



Wouldn't be the first manufacture to lie outright to the people for various reasons.

I'd hope that you knew not to trust the source as fact.

That's not the only place that is reporting that regardless of that sources validity.

 

[niky]

This isn't really news or unique to the Mustang. Aftermarket modifications void every warranty on the planet if they are found to have contributed to failure.

The IF part is the important part. Right in your link is the qualifier "Mods found to explain failure", right here:

That's SOP everywhere. At least owners have that out. Most people will void your warranty up front and unconditionally.

 

[ShobThaBob]

They have been testing the underpinnings for awhile now. Autoblog just wasn't aware of it because they used slightly disguired 2013 models for the older test.

The car's design has been set in stone for several years now.

If you were privvy to such information, enough people would've that we would have an article similar to the Jalopnik C7 Corvette article clearly stating "THIS IS IT. NOT AN INTERPRETATION!"

 

[DeathSmiles]

If you were privvy to such information, enough people would've that we would have an article similar to the Jalopnik C7 Corvette article clearly stating "THIS IS IT. NOT AN INTERPRETATION!"

I don't know anything about anyone else. I do know that Ford solidifies it's designs for new cars several years in advance. I have family that works at the Dearborn plant as a designer. He's been there for 20 years.

I'm not talking out my ass.

So, yea. Anything else you have to say?

 

[Slash]

Ford solidifies it's designs for new cars several years in advance.

This is true.

 

[hawkeye122]

I'm not talking out my ass.

Lol. Any proof? With 300 posts it's a bit hard to believe.

 

[DeathSmiles]

Lol. Any proof? With 300 posts it's a bit hard to believe.

Oh, the amount of posts dictates a posters truth. Thanks for the course in Internet L337 Rules 101 circa 1999, chief.

For the sake of keeping people's jobs safe, I will not disclose any "proof". You can take my word, or don't. That's your perogative. But it's not an industry secret, either.

Don't think for a second that the Evos concept was as far as they took the design process years ago when it debuted (in 2011). The production design was set in stone by the time you even saw it. In fact, they work backwards. Production design first, then they make a concept from that. It's quite fascinating.

EDIT - What's funny hawkeye122, is that I joined this forum well before you. So if you really want to use old school "Message board rulez!" as to whom is least believable, it would be you with the younger account. Also, you post way too ****ing much, IMO.

 

[Zenith]

Bro, I totally know a guy!

 

[Pupik]

For the sake of keeping people's jobs safe, I will not disclose any "proof". You can take my word, or don't.

Internet rule, circa 1995: If your argument holds as much water as a spaghetti strainer, then back it up with some sort of non-disclosure clause nonsense. People who really agree to NDCs, don't budge an inch on an internet forum.

We've heard this tale a thousand times.

 

[Omnis]

You must love your family a lot to put their job at risk like that. Loose lips sink ships. Spill the beans or don't.

 

[DeathSmiles]

Naw. I've said all I'm going to say on how I know. Just that I do. I know what to say, and what not to.

With that said, as I've already stated you can take it and accept it, or don't. I won't lose any sleep on it, fellas.

Internet rule, circa 1995: If your argument holds as much water as a spaghetti strainer...

Def don't remember trying to argue anything, actually. But alot happens from one page to another, apparently.

 

[Zenith]

Naw. I've said all I'm going to say on how I know. Just that I do. I know what to say, and what not to.

With that said, as I've already stated you can take it and accept it, or don't. I won't lose any sleep on it, fellas.

Hey guys, I'm totally half cousins with this guy in Ford's SVT. I won't be posting any kind of evidence to substantiate my claim or anything, but I'll just say that the next GT500 is going to have a 6.2L engine and looks to challenge the SLS AMG.

Put up or shut up. It's that simple.

 

[Omnis]

I know that the first lady will be at next year's Boston marathon. Why? Because I've shaken hands with the President.

 

[Pupik]

Naw. I've said all I'm going to say on how I know. Just that I do. I know what to say, and what not to.

With that said, as I've already stated you can take it and accept it, or don't. I won't lose any sleep on it, fellas.

Def don't remember trying to argue anything, actually. But alot happens from one page to another, apparently.

You must work for a big company, by saying nothing in one hundred words.

Go bother another forum, we're not impressed with hot air.

 

[DeathSmiles]

Hey guys, I'm totally half cousins with this guy in Ford's SVT. I won't be posting any kind of evidence to substantiate my claim or anything, but I'll just say that the next GT500 is going to have a 6.2L engine and looks to challenge the SLS AMG.

Put up or shut up. It's that simple.

Man. You guys are on EDGE. It's like no information of any kind can be shared without the Internet hate machine strolling through the thread.

It's crazy because you know revealing any kind of evidence of a designer's identity would be bad. I mean, if you had just any half sense. And yet, you expect me to do that anyway. Just to prove some kind of point on a message board. I am so tempted to risk a person's job over proving a point on this board that is it DRIVING ME MAD! But no, seriously. We went from zero to sixty like the damn Roadrunner. You don't have to believe me, and other than what I stated I don't care to "back it up".

Anyway, the few who are aware of this or believe me, bravo to you. The guys who want the smoking gun, you are kind of weird.

You must work for a big company, by saying nothing in one hundred words.

Go bother another forum, we're not impressed with hot air.

What are you, 12?

 

[Pupik]

Man. You guys are on EDGE.

Wrong model.

 

[Omnis]

You have an unreasonable expectation that you are to be believed. If you're not willing to share info, then carry on and stop carrying on.

 

[Zenith]

edit: tree'd

 

[DeathSmiles]

Wrong model.

I chuckled.

You have an unreasonable expectation that you are to be believed. If you're not willing to share info, then carry on and stop carrying on.

So me saying the car's design was already solidified a few years ago is some kind of unreasonable thought eh? Your incredible over reaction in anger and doubt is as if I said the Earth was round, and this was Ancient greece or something.

It's not that hard to believe, if you thought for a sec as to why wouldn't it be. You think they just make it up as they go, panel for panel until the day of revealing in production form?

Please, enlighten me as to why this is so goddamned outrageous.

If you were privvy to such information, enough people would've that we would have an article similar to the Jalopnik C7 Corvette article clearly stating "THIS IS IT. NOT AN INTERPRETATION!"

Btw, I meant to say how crazy this comment was. "It's not official, until it's on Jalopnik".

 

[Pupik]

What are you, 12?

Yes, I joined this board when I was just five months old.

The real bitch is fessing up to the rental car company, airline, hotel, investor, bank, wife, kids, parents (they might take my internet privileges if they saw this...so please don't tell them - It'll be our secret), site owner, and employer that I'm only 12. Also, I really don't want to lose the driver's licence I acquired 11 years before I was born...whew, that sure wasn't easy, but Einstein was incorrect due to that incident.

Also, the new Mustang will totally have seventeen digits in its VIN. You heard it here first.

 

[DeathSmiles]

Yes, I joined this board when I was just five months old.

The real bitch is fessing up to the rental car company, airline, hotel, investor, bank, wife, kids, parents (they might take my internet privileges if they saw this...so please don't tell them - It'll be our secret), site owner, and employer that I'm only 12.

Also, the new Mustang will totally have seventeen digits in its VIN. You heard it here first.

It's as if you took that quip at how imature I thought your comment was literally...

By god, I think you did.

This is crazy. I'm sure you aren't literally 12, man. I'm so sorry.

 

[Pupik]

It's as if you took that quip at how imature I thought your comment was literally...

Well, you wanted to be taken serious. I guess you were lying.